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 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Jul 14, 2018 04:51
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 76036-1
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Teup (6595)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 76036  Name: Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
* 
76036-1 (Inv) Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
81 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

* Delete 1 Part 55236 Red Appendage Spiky / Bionicle Spine / Seaweed / Plant Vine

Comments from Submitter:
Part belongs to minifig
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jul 14, 2018 08:57
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 76036-1
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In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 76036  Name: Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
* 
76036-1 (Inv) Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
81 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

* Delete 1 Part 55236 Red Appendage Spiky / Bionicle Spine / Seaweed / Plant Vine

Comments from Submitter:
Part belongs to minifig

Please do not delete this part. It is used in Carnage's hand as a weapon.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Jul 14, 2018 13:02
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 76036-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 76036  Name: Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
* 
76036-1 (Inv) Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
81 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

* Delete 1 Part 55236 Red Appendage Spiky / Bionicle Spine / Seaweed / Plant Vine

Comments from Submitter:
Part belongs to minifig

Please do not delete this part. It is used in Carnage's hand as a weapon.

Cheers,
Randy

As I explained the part is part of the minifigure. It is its hand, not a weapon.

I now have to buy them from another seller because I sold the minifigs and according
to Bricklinks these arms should still be in mu inventory..
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 14, 2018 13:02
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In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 76036  Name: Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
* 
76036-1 (Inv) Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
81 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

* Delete 1 Part 55236 Red Appendage Spiky / Bionicle Spine / Seaweed / Plant Vine

Comments from Submitter:
Part belongs to minifig

This part is considered a hand-held accessory for this figure. Hand-held accessories
are not included in minifigure inventories and this request was not approved.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=200
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Jul 14, 2018 13:04
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Teup (6595)

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Huh? Surely this can't be intentional? If it is an accessory, why are the
4 on his back then considered part of his body?

It's not an accessory..

In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 76036  Name: Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
* 
76036-1 (Inv) Carnage's SHIELD Sky Attack
81 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

* Delete 1 Part 55236 Red Appendage Spiky / Bionicle Spine / Seaweed / Plant Vine

Comments from Submitter:
Part belongs to minifig

This part is considered a hand-held accessory for this figure. Hand-held accessories
are not included in minifigure inventories and this request was not approved.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=200
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 14, 2018 13:21
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In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  It's not an accessory.

This is an area of the BrickLink catalog where there is inconsistency. Any changes
made to minifigure assemblies should ideally be system-wide, which would involve
policy changes and multiple new catalog entries and deletions of existing entries.

I'm open to that, but I do not have the final say-so in matters such as these.

In this particular instance, the proper route would be to submit a new minifigure
to the catalog with photo. We typically don't change the inventories of
minifigures because we don't want buyers or sellers to end up in a bind.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Jul 14, 2018 17:20
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  It's not an accessory.

This is an area of the BrickLink catalog where there is inconsistency. Any changes
made to minifigure assemblies should ideally be system-wide, which would involve
policy changes and multiple new catalog entries and deletions of existing entries.

I'm open to that, but I do not have the final say-so in matters such as these.

In this particular instance, the proper route would be to submit a new minifigure
to the catalog with photo. We typically don't change the inventories of
minifigures because we don't want buyers or sellers to end up in a bind.

I don't think that much needs to change, this figure is the only situation
I am currently aware of that something that is "biologically" part of a body
is removed for the Bricklink figure.
But I do get your point about modifying minifigs. Too tricky since there is a
picture that has it without that part and sellers have already been listing them.

I'm curious however how many have assembled/packed them the Bricklink way
and how many did it what I think is the right way (if you look at the instructions
and every picture of the figure). When I packed them, I didn't even have
a second of doubt that 1 of these 5 parts could be not a bodypart. There also
exist crab pincers and such that are "handheld", plus this part is literally
in a bodypart category. Apart from this minifig, the Bricklink catalog always
made perfect sense to me.

I don't have any of these figures anymore, otherwise I would at least submit
a picture for a possible addition.
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Jul 15, 2018 02:44
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In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Teup writes:
  It's not an accessory.

This is an area of the BrickLink catalog where there is inconsistency. Any changes
made to minifigure assemblies should ideally be system-wide, which would involve
policy changes and multiple new catalog entries and deletions of existing entries.

I'm open to that, but I do not have the final say-so in matters such as these.

In this particular instance, the proper route would be to submit a new minifigure
to the catalog with photo. We typically don't change the inventories of
minifigures because we don't want buyers or sellers to end up in a bind.

I don't think that much needs to change, this figure is the only situation
I am currently aware of that something that is "biologically" part of a body
is removed for the Bricklink figure.
But I do get your point about modifying minifigs. Too tricky since there is a
picture that has it without that part and sellers have already been listing them.

I'm curious however how many have assembled/packed them the Bricklink way
and how many did it what I think is the right way (if you look at the instructions
and every picture of the figure). When I packed them, I didn't even have
a second of doubt that 1 of these 5 parts could be not a bodypart. There also
exist crab pincers and such that are "handheld", plus this part is literally
in a bodypart category. Apart from this minifig, the Bricklink catalog always
made perfect sense to me.

I don't have any of these figures anymore, otherwise I would at least submit
a picture for a possible addition.

The plant CMF
 
Minifig No: col215  Name: Plant Monster, Series 14 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 
col215 (Inv) Plant Monster, Series 14 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 14 Minifigures
is in the same situation (the plant 'arms' aren't
included in the minifig entry).

Even Wolverine
 
Minifig No: sh017  Name: Wolverine - Hair
* 
sh017 (Inv) Wolverine - Hair
Minifigures: Super Heroes: X-Men
doesn't have his claws in the minifig entry, which
are integrated into his body (following the movies/comics anyway).

It's confusing that minifig entries contain everything present in the LEGO
instructions *except* for what is in the minifig's hands. So Magneto
 
Minifig No: sh031  Name: Magneto - Red Outfit
* 
sh031 (Inv) Magneto - Red Outfit
Minifigures: Super Heroes: X-Men
comes with a dark gray 1x2 round plate because it's attached to his feet,
Iron Man minifigs come with the 1x2 round bricks on his feet, but Wolverine doesn't
get his claws because they are in his hands.

Minifig inventories really should include *all* accessories as pictured in the
instructions.

Josh
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 15, 2018 03:50
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In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  Minifig inventories really should include *all* accessories as pictured in the
instructions.

Any issues regarding what officially constitutes a minifigure should be addressed
to the catalog administrators. These issues are not inventory issues because
the catalog entry for a minifigure predetermines what the inventory of that minifigure
includes.
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Jul 15, 2018 02:53
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In this particular instance, the proper route would be to submit a new minifigure
to the catalog with photo. We typically don't change the inventories of
minifigures because we don't want buyers or sellers to end up in a bind.

I had a specific question about this part of your response.

How does the system take into account inventory changes in sets that sellers
currently have for sale? Say I have a used set for sale in my store and someone
makes an inventory change to increase the quantity of a part from 3 to 4. Would
I get notified that an item I have for sale has been modified? Does it get automatically
moved from my store to my stockroom until I verify the change?

Inventory changes seem to happen all the time for sets and it doesn't seem
to cause much of an issue, so wouldn't minifigs just be treated the same
way? Or is this another case where minifigs should be treated as a 'set'
of minifig parts but aren't (like 'no alternates in minifig inventories'.

Josh
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 15, 2018 03:48
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In Inventories Requests, mhortar writes:
  How does the system take into account inventory changes in sets that sellers
currently have for sale?

The system does not directly notify anyone of changes to set inventories.

  Would I get notified that an item I have for sale has been modified?

No, you would not be notified.

  Does it get automatically moved from my store to my stockroom until I verify the change?

No, this does not occur.

  Inventory changes seem to happen all the time for sets and it doesn't seem
to cause much of an issue, so wouldn't minifigs just be treated the same
way?

Yes, changes do frequently occur in set inventories. I have never been told
why minifigures are treated differently.

However, any issues regarding what officially constitutes a minifigure should
be addressed to the catalog administrators. These issues are not inventory issues
because the catalog entry for a minifigure predetermines what the inventory of
that minifigure includes.