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| | | Author: | normann1974  | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 13:51 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.
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| | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.
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Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:
1) Part
says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.
2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).
/Jan
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| | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 14:51 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.
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Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:
1) Part
says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.
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Yes, what ever happened to 32181c01? There is a 32181c03:
Looks like we need one that has a spring.
| | 2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).
/Jan
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This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2018 15:26 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: MISB-based set that has never been mixed with other bricks.
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Two questions have arised after re-counting my set before putting it up for sale:
1) Part
says that the "spring type" is "undetermined", but there are no variants to choose
between. Shouldn't there be some? Attached is a picture of the part in my
set.
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Yes, what ever happened to 32181c01? There is a 32181c03:
Looks like we need one that has a spring.
| | 2) After counting this set, I have 4 left over bricks: 1x black 32054, 2x black
41677, 1x LBG 6538c, and one brick is missing: 1x 32278. These extra/missing
parts seems to make up for the differences between the BL inventory and Peeron's
(I've actually verified Peeron's inventory some years ago). It seems
that BL's inventory corresponds with the parts list in the building instructions
but apparently, there are inconsistencies between this and the actual contents
of the box. I've tried counting the number of bricks required in the building
instructions for those four parts, but there are six books, and I can't make
any of the counts in either of the two models match any of BL's or Peeron's
counts. But how should I handle these missing/extra parts? (I can see that the
part I'm missing was added to the BL inventory in 2012 but not find the reason
why).
/Jan
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This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.
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I already checked that but forgot to write it.
My instruction's seem to be identical to the ones on the LEGO website, and
the inventory count in book 3 are the same counts as BL's inventory (e.g.
37x 32278). But that list obviously don't match the actual contents of my
and the Peeron inventory authors box contents and the actual number of parts
needed for the build. I just recounted the number of 32278's used to build
the main model. It's 36 (my count for the secondary model is 35).
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2018 04:23 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | | | | This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.
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And also: All available scans of the building instructions have the same (IMHO
wrong) inventory on the last pages. Only one version seems to exist.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 6, 2018 02:36 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | | | | | This other situation could be a case of multiple instructions. Check yours against
some of the others listed in databases. Brickset is a great resource for this
- there is a link there provided by Swooshable that will give you all the major
sources.
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And also: All available scans of the building instructions have the same (IMHO
wrong) inventory on the last pages. Only one version seems to exist.
/Jan
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It's been almost a month now. What should we do about this? Am I and the
person that did the Peeron inventory the only two people in the world who had
these off count contents in the box? And what could be the reason for the person
adding the extra 32278 liftarm in 2012 other than the instructions saying it
should be there (and in my and Peeron's case it wasn't).
In other words, should my counts be considered 1) The correct contents, although
they don't match the brick list in the instructions 2) A variant which should
be reflected in the inventory 3) A production error to be ignored
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 6, 2018 02:45 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In other words, should my counts be considered 1) The correct contents, although
they don't match the brick list in the instructions 2) A variant which should
be reflected in the inventory 3) A production error to be ignored
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That's a tough one. What should happen here is that several people who own
this set need to carefully check the contents and compare notes. Also, it needs
to be determined for sure if alternate instructions exist or not.
There's some detective work to be done. Unfortunately, you didn't get
much help in the forums here. I suggest you post on Brickset and perhaps some
other websites (like a Technic hobbyist page) to see if you can gather further
information about exactly what is going on with this set.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 6, 2018 12:41 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In other words, should my counts be considered 1) The correct contents, although
they don't match the brick list in the instructions 2) A variant which should
be reflected in the inventory 3) A production error to be ignored
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That's a tough one. What should happen here is that several people who own
this set need to carefully check the contents and compare notes. Also, it needs
to be determined for sure if alternate instructions exist or not.
There's some detective work to be done. Unfortunately, you didn't get
much help in the forums here. I suggest you post on Brickset and perhaps some
other websites (like a Technic hobbyist page) to see if you can gather further
information about exactly what is going on with this set.
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Well, the reason for me writing about this is that I'm about to sell my set
and I wanted to ensure that it was complete which I can only say it is when comparing
against Peeron (unless I put an extra liftarm from another set in the bag). After
the sale, I will not be able to verify any details about this set any longer.
Trying to dig up more information about this issue will be time taken from other
important projects of mine, so I'll just leave this thread to be picked up
by anyone else coming across this issue at some point in the future.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | May 22, 2018 13:10 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8285-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In other words, should my counts be considered 1) The correct contents, although
they don't match the brick list in the instructions 2) A variant which should
be reflected in the inventory 3) A production error to be ignored
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That's a tough one. What should happen here is that several people who own
this set need to carefully check the contents and compare notes. Also, it needs
to be determined for sure if alternate instructions exist or not.
There's some detective work to be done. Unfortunately, you didn't get
much help in the forums here. I suggest you post on Brickset and perhaps some
other websites (like a Technic hobbyist page) to see if you can gather further
information about exactly what is going on with this set.
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I have found similar issues in another Technic set. Please see:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1091294
/Jan
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