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 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 14:39
 Subject: Bricklink: please clean up incomplete sets
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Brick.Door (7495)

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I recently listed another batch of used sets. Once again in reviewing prices
I found in most cases the cheapest one available for sale is listed as "complete"
but missing minifigures.

Bricklink can't you do a sweep of these errant listings and send the seller
a warning? Maybe query sets that are listed as complete but have the word "missing"
or "no minifigs" in the comments

I know you don't want to make changes automatically (the seller could have
written "no missing minifigures" or something) but it is a long and slow process
to find these one by one. And there are thousands of them listed.

Sounds like a lot of work? You are probably losing money too. The average
sold price is lower than it should be because so many incomplete sets are being
sold as complete. If sellers saw the real average price they would set their
prices higher and Bricklink would benefit from the higher commission.

For example I recently listed Star Wars set. The cheapest 3 currently available
(listed as complete) are $15, $20 and $24. None of them are complete according
to the sellers description.

The average sold for this set is $22 but since 3 of the sold sets were prices
$15, $15 and $21 they were probably incomplete but sold as complete and now are
polluting the price guide. The correct average sold is about $27
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
 Posted: Mar 20, 2018 01:12
 Subject: Re: Bricklink: please clean up incomplete sets
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TheBrickGuys (13221)

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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  I recently listed another batch of used sets. Once again in reviewing prices
I found in most cases the cheapest one available for sale is listed as "complete"
but missing minifigures.

Bricklink can't you do a sweep of these errant listings and send the seller
a warning? Maybe query sets that are listed as complete but have the word "missing"
or "no minifigs" in the comments

I know you don't want to make changes automatically (the seller could have
written "no missing minifigures" or something) but it is a long and slow process
to find these one by one. And there are thousands of them listed.

Sounds like a lot of work? You are probably losing money too. The average
sold price is lower than it should be because so many incomplete sets are being
sold as complete. If sellers saw the real average price they would set their
prices higher and Bricklink would benefit from the higher commission.

For example I recently listed Star Wars set. The cheapest 3 currently available
(listed as complete) are $15, $20 and $24. None of them are complete according
to the sellers description.

The average sold for this set is $22 but since 3 of the sold sets were prices
$15, $15 and $21 they were probably incomplete but sold as complete and now are
polluting the price guide. The correct average sold is about $27

I hope your not suggestion that BL do a sweep by checking each and every listing
of every set listed by every seller or even just the least expensive listing
of each and every set? If you are then that would take so much time and effort
that it would be, well for lack of a better word, ridiculous. If I have miss
understand you then I apologize.

Jim
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Mar 20, 2018 10:54
 Subject: Re: Bricklink: please clean up incomplete sets
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Brick.Door (7495)

Location:  USA, New York
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I hope your not suggestion that BL do a sweep by checking each and every listing
of every set listed by every seller or even just the least expensive listing
of each and every set? If you are then that would take so much time and effort
that it would be, well for lack of a better word, ridiculous. If I have miss
understand you then I apologize.

Jim

Yes all of them - I was thinking of a database query and automated email or
something like that. But really I was just venting some frustration. I know Bricklink
isn't going to do anything about this.
 Author: samsam2 View Messages Posted By samsam2
 Posted: Mar 21, 2018 13:38
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samsam2 (2339)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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I used to report errors of incomplete sets listed as complete using the Bricklink
problem center form, and it used to work a while ago, but the requests stopped
being acted upon, (even the most blatant examples), so I stopped submitting them.

  
Yes all of them - I was thinking of a database query and automated email or
something like that. But really I was just venting some frustration. I know Bricklink
isn't going to do anything about this.
 Author: Abels_Bricks View Messages Posted By Abels_Bricks
 Posted: Mar 20, 2018 02:53
 Subject: Re: Bricklink: please clean up incomplete sets
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Abels_Bricks (1267)

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Serious question then as I want my store to have the best policies.

I dont sell sets as a rule but I have 1 listed as complete BUT I dont have the
box. Is it still complete.

I genuinely want advice and would happily amend. but if I list it as incomplete
due to missing box would I then loose views as customers assume that it is missing
parts.

Your comment regarding Mini-figures is correct and this does mess up the average
price of sets. A mini-figure is a part and if missing then the set is most definitively
not complete.

Thanks
David - Abel`s Brick
 Author: cplonsdale View Messages Posted By cplonsdale
 Posted: Mar 20, 2018 04:22
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In Suggestions, daveglas writes:
  Serious question then as I want my store to have the best policies.

I dont sell sets as a rule but I have 1 listed as complete BUT I dont have the
box. Is it still complete.

I genuinely want advice and would happily amend. but if I list it as incomplete
due to missing box would I then loose views as customers assume that it is missing
parts.

Your comment regarding Mini-figures is correct and this does mess up the average
price of sets. A mini-figure is a part and if missing then the set is most definitively
not complete.

Thanks
David - Abel`s Brick

Brinklinks definitions of listings here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
 Author: Lauren_Luke View Messages Posted By Lauren_Luke
 Posted: Mar 20, 2018 03:11
 Subject: Re: Bricklink: please clean up incomplete sets
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Lauren_Luke (1609)

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This issue would be mostly resolved by developing a minibuild sub-catalog.

See: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=233616&nID=1081404

Just saying...
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Mar 20, 2018 05:10
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WoutR (919)

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In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
  This issue would be mostly resolved by developing a minibuild sub-catalog.

See: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=233616&nID=1081404

Just saying...

Or accept that if you do not want to sell a complete set, then you are selling
an incomplete set or just parts.

Just saying...
 Author: Erikmax View Messages Posted By Erikmax
 Posted: Mar 21, 2018 05:28
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"Sounds like a lot of work? You are probably losing money too. The average
sold price is lower than it should be because so many incomplete sets are being
sold as complete. If sellers saw the real average price they would set their
prices higher and Bricklink would benefit from the higher commission.""

Same for boxes of minifigs where SETS instead of boxes are listed, causing an
average price for the boxes far too low.