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| | | Author: | Lauren_Luke  | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2018 19:28 | | Subject: | Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 245 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| I don’t want to open a can of worms here, but I think this is a valid suggestion.
Can BL create a fourth entry for a set where is states:
‘Set Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’
to become
‘Set Entry | Minibuild Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’ ?
The ‘Minibuild Entry’ would contain the valid minibuilds (new and used) from
a set. Sellers are selling minibuilds anyway under 'Set Entry' as new-incomplete
and used-incomplete with the minibuld definition the description.
Separating out the minibuilds would...
- clean up the 'Set Entry';
- improve average pricing effectiveness;
- create an additional avenue for buyers and sellers
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wahiggin | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2018 22:36 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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I would like to hear from people who are interested in listing larger assemblies
like this. I would also appreciate hearing from those who think it's not
a good direction for the site to take.
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I've been wanting this for YEARS! I proposed it back when we had the Thomas
the Tank sets so we could add the train "figures" as minifigures or as something
similar to how the Bob the Builder characters had been loaded. I was interested
it again with the first round of Cars sets. I didn't understand why the
Bob the Builder sets had minibuilds, but the others couldn't. I thought
it would be nice for the sets that have modular builds to, such as the Pirate
II Fort, where each bag built a different section. It would be nice for train
sets too, so each train car could be listed individually. It would also be great
for the minecraft animals. Large sets would be nice to have mini-builds as well,
so people could list a certain vehicle or building. Mini-build inventories would
be nice too!
Can we build it! Yes we can!
[p=dmuckc01]
[p=21098pb01]
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | speshy | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 20:29 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| To me it seems like a very reasonable way to handle minibuilds and their parent
sets' price guides. Should also make it easier for those interested in parting
in minibuilds. Drawback - lots of work to bring sets up to speed. Surely that's
no good reason to prevent progress though.
K
Inuggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
The 18 Juniors Cars "minifigs" are an experiment. You are correct that another
type of item would ultimately need to be created, but for the time being we are
using the minifig type because the different partout values (assembled/broken)
can easily be seen.
I would like to hear from people who are interested in listing larger assemblies
like this. I would also appreciate hearing from those who think it's not
a good direction for the site to take.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2018 22:38 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| OK, you have given the example of set 10745-1
On this set is says: “
Item Consists Of
114 Parts
5 Minifigs
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This should become either: “
Item Consists Of
114 Parts
9 Minibuilds
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or (because this experiment has already classified the ‘cars’ characters as minifigs):
“
Item Consists Of
114 Parts
5 Minifigs
4 Minibuilds
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The four minibuilds in these set would be:
Fuel Stop
Podium
Finish Line and Ripple Strips
Finish Booth
(see photos)
I like this idea because there may be buyers who are only interested in certain
minibuilds of a set, or want to expand a set, or add a minibuild from one to
set to another set etc… Some set offer only part of an arena (for example),
as a buyer I would prefer to buy just another (or two) parts of the arena (to
make it complete) that the whole set.
The only disadvantages (for the seller) is the time needed to part-out the set
with the correct parts for the minibuild assembly and the issue with a sheet
of stickers spanning over multiple minibuilds, however, a buyer may even want
someone to apply the stickers for the minibuild.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | wahiggin | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2018 22:47 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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The only disadvantages (for the seller) is the time needed to part-out the set
with the correct parts for the minibuild assembly and the issue with a sheet
of stickers spanning over multiple minibuilds, however, a buyer may even want
someone to apply the stickers for the minibuild.
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Sometimes the parts for the minibuild come in separate bags which will help with
parting them out.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 05:27 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | I don’t want to open a can of worms here, but I think this is a valid suggestion.
Can BL create a fourth entry for a set where is states:
‘Set Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’
to become
‘Set Entry | Minibuild Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’ ?
The ‘Minibuild Entry’ would contain the valid minibuilds (new and used) from
a set. Sellers are selling minibuilds anyway under 'Set Entry' as new-incomplete
and used-incomplete with the minibuld definition the description.
Separating out the minibuilds would...
- clean up the 'Set Entry';
- improve average pricing effectiveness;
- create an additional avenue for buyers and sellers
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Would you consider these to be "minibuilds"?
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How on earth are those cars minifigures? They contain no minifigure parts. Especially
when other assemblies that form characters such as Groot, LOTR Ent, etc are disallowed?
That said, this type is even worse:
No minifigure parts, and not even a proper character without the stickers.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 05:33 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | How on earth are those cars minifigures? They contain no minifigure parts. Especially
when other assemblies that form characters such as Groot, LOTR Ent, etc are disallowed?
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Did you read this message elsewhere in the thread?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1081410
I believe it addresses both of your questions.
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| | | | | Author: | TallyToyBricks | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 11:25 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I'm not sure how you would handle selling new minibuilds with stickers and
instructions.
Do you cut the sticker sheets? Do you send the appropriate building pages from
the manual?
What would the buyer expect?
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 11:30 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, TallyToyBricks writes:
| | I'm not sure how you would handle selling new minibuilds with stickers and
instructions.
Do you cut the sticker sheets? Do you send the appropriate building pages from
the manual?
What would the buyer expect?
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AFAICT, generally, each minibuild has its own instruction booklet.
Sticker sheets are more of a problem :/
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 13:02 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, TallyToyBricks writes:
| | I'm not sure how you would handle selling new minibuilds with stickers and
instructions.
Do you cut the sticker sheets? Do you send the appropriate building pages from
the manual?
What would the buyer expect?
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AFAICT, generally, each minibuild has its own instruction booklet.
Sticker sheets are more of a problem :/
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I like the idea, but the problem seems to be in the details and how it can be
best handled, as has already been pointed out.
There are some obvious builds like the characters from Cars, brickbuilt figures
like Groot, the giant Antman and such, train cars, but then it it's not so
clear on the smaller builds that are not attached to the main set build. There
are lots of little minibuilds across various themes/subthemes and I am not sure
how they will be easily cataloged in what would require a whole new branch of
the catalog. Would they be classified under their themes and subthemes. How will
they be easily found. If I just want a brickbuilt trashcan, how will one know
what theme and subtheme to find it under. The character ones would be fairly
simple to find by name, but some accessory minibuilds would seem to lurk in the
shadows of the catalog, to be never found or browsed.
Additionally it would take a huge undertaking to re-catalog many of these. The
sticker sheets is one of the biggest issues that I can't figure out the best
way to handle the issue without making the minibuild seem incomplete if omitted,
but if the stickers are applied, then it would classify them as used. Cutting
instructions creates an additional chore for the seller, but mainly the quality
of the cut which could compromise the sticker just to name 1 of several concerns
with that alone. Some stickers have no space between them and cutting between
2 stickers would prove quite impossible without inflicting some damage.
Ultimately, people will probably still list sets as incomplete to gain better
visibility and to dump off the rest of the unwanted minibuilds in 1 sale as opposed
to various minibuilds.
As far as the catalog price averages issue, I think incomplete sets need to be
marked as incomplete and sale of those should not be listed or used for calculations
of averages. Perhaps that is already what is happening, I just wouldn't know.
Whatever Bricklink decides to do, should probably do a trial test with certain
figures and see how it shakes out, before they bite of more than they can chew.
Catalog and Inventory admins will have quite a work cut out for them.
Miro
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:
| | There are some obvious builds like the characters from Cars, brickbuilt figures
like Groot, the giant Antman and such, train cars, but then it it's not so
clear on the smaller builds that are not attached to the main set build. There
are lots of little minibuilds across various themes/subthemes and I am not sure
how they will be easily cataloged in what would require a whole new branch of
the catalog. Would they be classified under their themes and subthemes. How will
they be easily found. If I just want a brickbuilt trashcan, how will one know
what theme and subtheme to find it under. The character ones would be fairly
simple to find by name, but some accessory minibuilds would seem to lurk in the
shadows of the catalog, to be never found or browsed.
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If I were the king, I think I would put them on a new tree and not go by themes.
Use categories like "Vehicle - Land", "Vehicle - Space", "Animal", "Furniture".
It would be a whole new way for customers to shop Bricklink and a whole new
area for sellers to specialize.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 16:17 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | If I were the king, I think I would put them on a new tree and not go by themes.
Use categories like "Vehicle - Land", "Vehicle - Space", "Animal", "Furniture".
It would be a whole new way for customers to shop Bricklink and a whole new
area for sellers to specialize.
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I totally agree.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2018 11:35 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:
| | There are some obvious builds like the characters from Cars, brickbuilt figures
like Groot, the giant Antman and such, train cars, but then it it's not so
clear on the smaller builds that are not attached to the main set build. There
are lots of little minibuilds across various themes/subthemes and I am not sure
how they will be easily cataloged in what would require a whole new branch of
the catalog. Would they be classified under their themes and subthemes. How will
they be easily found. If I just want a brickbuilt trashcan, how will one know
what theme and subtheme to find it under. The character ones would be fairly
simple to find by name, but some accessory minibuilds would seem to lurk in the
shadows of the catalog, to be never found or browsed.
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If I were the king, I think I would put them on a new tree and not go by themes.
Use categories like "Vehicle - Land", "Vehicle - Space", "Animal", "Furniture".
It would be a whole new way for customers to shop Bricklink and a whole new
area for sellers to specialize.
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I think the success of the minibuilds portion of the catalog would greatly hinge
on an ease of browsing. Currently the catalog is not dynamic enough besides either
browsing and narrowing down branch by branch or by specific searches. The mini
builds catalog would greatly benefit if one could narrow down list of mini builds
by narrowing down choices. Here are some examples:
Say for example I want to build a Star Wars battle scene, but I lack enough ground
based vehicles for the Rebels side. So I would like to narrow down the list of
minibuilds available by narrowing down. So a logical progression would be something
like this:
Minibuilds Star Wars Vehicles Ground Vehicles Rebels
but if I didn't care if they were ground vehicles, but still be Rebels then
it would be
Minibuilds Star Wars Vehicles Rebels
You get the idea. This same logic would be used for finding vehicles for my town
layout
Clearly the BL catalog does not have a dynamic catalog to handle this at the
moment, without specific searches. This would clearly require a tag system for
individual entries to allow for such narrowing down of options.
Obviously this can be implemented when the BL catalog system is updated. I think
doing a pilot sub-catalog trial is still in everyone's best interest that
would bring in a whole slew of new buyers. Initially it would be best to start
with high profile minibuilds that buyers and sellers need to exist without having
the inventory admins busy with minibuilds with low likely hood of being sold.
As far as sticker sheet problem, I have not found a good solution. Perhaps there
can be 2 options: Without stickers and with stickers applied. The latter being
a touchy topic on its-own, but at least it gives sellers and buyers options.
Any thoughts?
Miro
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2018 12:15 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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I think the success of the minibuilds portion of the catalog would greatly hinge on an ease of browsing. ... The minibuilds catalog would greatly benefit if one could narrow down list of mini builds by narrowing down choices.
(example given)
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Yes I agree, your example is spot-on.
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This would clearly require a tag system for individual entries to allow for such narrowing down of options.
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Yep, totally agree.
| | Miro78:
Obviously this can be implemented when the BL catalog system is updated. I think doing a pilot sub-catalog trial is still in everyone's best interest that would bring in a whole slew of new buyers.
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Would the pilot trial still be within BL or a new external sister-site perhaps?
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Initially it would be best to start with high profile minibuilds that buyers and sellers need to exist without having the inventory admins busy with minibuilds with low likely hood of being sold.
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Which are the high profile minibuilds? I would say they are the ‘new-incomplete’
and ‘used-incomplete’ sets that are already in the BL catalog. How do we know
which minibuilds have a low likelihood of being sold? Experience shows that there
is always something you think would not sell that someone is eager to purchase.
If the goal is to take pressure of the Inventory Administrators then which is
more time -consuming/time-efficient: a few large-part-count minibuilds; or many
small-part-count minibuilds; or batches of a set-theme; or batches of a minibuild
category?
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As far as sticker sheet problem, I have not found a good solution. Perhaps there can be 2 options: Without stickers and with stickers applied. The latter being a touchy topic on its-own, but at least it gives sellers and buyers options.
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I checked on TLG website and does not seem to be any way to purchase replacement
sticker sheets for a set. Do you know is TLG do this? Purchasing an extra sticker
sheet for each minibuild would be another option, but it would be an extra expense
for the seller. Otherwise the minibuild sellers could buy bulk sticker sheets
from the part-out sellers.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2018 13:04 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
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I think the success of the minibuilds portion of the catalog would greatly hinge on an ease of browsing. ... The minibuilds catalog would greatly benefit if one could narrow down list of mini builds by narrowing down choices.
(example given)
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Yes I agree, your example is spot-on.
| | Miro78:
This would clearly require a tag system for individual entries to allow for such narrowing down of options.
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Yep, totally agree.
| | Miro78:
Obviously this can be implemented when the BL catalog system is updated. I think doing a pilot sub-catalog trial is still in everyone's best interest that would bring in a whole slew of new buyers.
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Would the pilot trial still be within BL or a new external sister-site perhaps?
| | Miro78:
Initially it would be best to start with high profile minibuilds that buyers and sellers need to exist without having the inventory admins busy with minibuilds with low likely hood of being sold.
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Which are the high profile minibuilds? I would say they are the ‘new-incomplete’
and ‘used-incomplete’ sets that are already in the BL catalog. How do we know
which minibuilds have a low likelihood of being sold? Experience shows that there
is always something you think would not sell that someone is eager to purchase.
If the goal is to take pressure of the Inventory Administrators then which is
more time -consuming/time-efficient: a few large-part-count minibuilds; or many
small-part-count minibuilds; or batches of a set-theme; or batches of a minibuild
category?
| | Miro78:
As far as sticker sheet problem, I have not found a good solution. Perhaps there can be 2 options: Without stickers and with stickers applied. The latter being a touchy topic on its-own, but at least it gives sellers and buyers options.
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I checked on TLG website and does not seem to be any way to purchase replacement
sticker sheets for a set. Do you know is TLG do this? Purchasing an extra sticker
sheet for each minibuild would be another option, but it would be an extra expense
for the seller. Otherwise the minibuild sellers could buy bulk sticker sheets
from the part-out sellers.
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I just cut the sticker sheets. Very often the stickers are laid to in a way
that is cooperative with this, but sometimes I just put a few separately cut
stickers together in a bag with a piece of cardboard.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2018 15:45 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
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I think the success of the minibuilds portion of the catalog would greatly hinge on an ease of browsing. ... The minibuilds catalog would greatly benefit if one could narrow down list of mini builds by narrowing down choices.
(example given)
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Yes I agree, your example is spot-on.
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This would clearly require a tag system for individual entries to allow for such narrowing down of options.
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Yep, totally agree.
| | Miro78:
Obviously this can be implemented when the BL catalog system is updated. I think doing a pilot sub-catalog trial is still in everyone's best interest that would bring in a whole slew of new buyers.
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Would the pilot trial still be within BL or a new external sister-site perhaps?
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I think the pilot site needs to be incorporated along with the main site, so
as to gain as much exposure and assess demand and flush out errors and get feedback.
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Initially it would be best to start with high profile minibuilds that buyers and sellers need to exist without having the inventory admins busy with minibuilds with low likely hood of being sold.
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Which are the high profile minibuilds? I would say they are the ‘new-incomplete’
and ‘used-incomplete’ sets that are already in the BL catalog. How do we know
which minibuilds have a low likelihood of being sold? Experience shows that there
is always something you think would not sell that someone is eager to purchase.
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I think focusing on some key high in demand mini builds like the character based
ones that have always been discussed in the catalog would be a good start. The
admins can create a minibuild request page where people can request specific
minibuilds and if they reach a certain threshold of votes/requests then only
then admins would add those in, at least at the beginning, so as to control the
amount of work that would be needed, as well gauging demand/supply for them to
gauge success of the program. Spending time on bunch of minibuilds that would
not generate sales would not be very informative on the success of such an undertaking.
Obviously the catalog of minibuilds would not be complete from the get-go, but
it would need to start somewhere. I think sellers would be interested in it,
as it would generate sales and buyers will spend less time hunting for parts
for popular minibuilds.
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more time -consuming/time-efficient: a few large-part-count minibuilds; or many
small-part-count minibuilds; or batches of a set-theme; or batches of a minibuild
category?
| | Miro78:
As far as sticker sheet problem, I have not found a good solution. Perhaps there can be 2 options: Without stickers and with stickers applied. The latter being a touchy topic on its-own, but at least it gives sellers and buyers options.
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I checked on TLG website and does not seem to be any way to purchase replacement
sticker sheets for a set. Do you know is TLG do this? Purchasing an extra sticker
sheet for each minibuild would be another option, but it would be an extra expense
for the seller. Otherwise the minibuild sellers could buy bulk sticker sheets
from the part-out sellers.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 16:13 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | There are some obvious builds like the characters from Cars, brickbuilt figures like Groot, the giant Antman and such, train cars, but then it it's not so clear on the smaller builds that are not attached to the main set build.
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I agree. However, I think an organic evolution of this would be the best approach,
such as axaday suggests:
| | | | ...I don't think we would have to make a complicated set of rules about what was and wasn't acceptable either. Just leave it up to what people want to submit. [axaday]
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This would mean a whole new additional request-approval procedure for admins.
Miro78:
| | There are lots of little minibuilds across various themes/subthemes and I am not sure how they will be easily cataloged in what would require a whole new branch of the catalog.
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Yes, I agree there would have to be a whole new branch of the catalog, i.e. ‘minibuilds’.
Admin_Russell also agrees with this:
| | | | ...another type of item would ultimately need to be created... [Admin_Russell]
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Miro78:
| | Would they be classified under their themes and subthemes. How will they be easily found. If I just want a brickbuilt trashcan, how will one know what theme and subtheme to find it under. The character ones would be fairly simple to find by name, but some accessory minibuilds would seem to lurk in the shadows of the catalog, to be never found or browsed. There needs to be an early decision to differentiate between an ambiguous figure being a minifig or a minibuild.
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Yes, a major classification structure would have to be agreed upon before the
minibuilds are loaded. This would require discussion and research. On the face
of it I think it would be beneficial to classify (i.e. structure) minibuilds
by what they are / setting.
Miro78:
| | Additionally it would take a huge undertaking to re-catalog many of these.
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WoutR:
| | ...a lot more inventory work, and that also means a lot more verification work for our inv.admin
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I agree, however, we are not adding any new parts only new inventories. I know
that sounds glib, I have worked in database/programming for over twenty years
so I do know how something that sounds easy to the user is in fact a huge operation
for the programmer. I suppose we must look at the return on investment (of time
and money). Sellers and BL are not bringing anything physical ‘to the table’,
only providing an extra way to part-out a set. The time and money for BL to
set it up (new minibuild branch) and the extra work involved by Sellers and BL
(I presume the collaborative community spirit is still here at BL) to manage
it (request-approve) needs to be balanced against a gain in sales (good for sellers
and BL) and an extra avenue for buyers. Sellers are already adding minibuilds
as incomplete sets in the current ‘set’ branch of the catalog, so I presume there
is a demand.
Miro78:
| | The sticker sheets is one of the biggest issues that I can't figure out the best way to handle the issue without making the minibuild seem incomplete if omitted, but if the stickers are applied, then it would classify them as used.
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I agree, and yorbrick gave an example of this:
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Sellers will not want to cut a sticker sheet, because that would invalidate the
‘new’ status of the minibuild, and if they add the sticker sheet to one minibuild,
then that would prevent stickers for other minibuilds and/or the main build (since
there is only one sticker sheet per set)! I suppose we will have to live with
examples of dp029 Cogsworth.
Another approach taken by AaronHeng in his minibuild of Ironman suit from set
‘#76105-1 The Hulkbuster: Ultron Edition’, is that he has changed the minibuild
to omit the stickered parts (see attached image).
https://store.bricklink.com/AaronHeng?itemID=139793517#/shop?o={"invID":"139793517"}
Miro78:
| | Ultimately, people will probably still list sets as incomplete to gain better visibility and to dump off the rest of the unwanted minibuilds in 1 sale as opposed to various minibuilds.
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I guess most of the minibuilds (actually incomplete sets) are where the seller
has taken out the parts they want (usually minifigs) and dumped the rest as set-incomplete
in one sale, but they have to sometimes go to great lengths in their description
to explain what they have on sale and what has been taken out (again usually
minifigs). They have to do this specifically for the novice buyer. If there
were a proper structure (i.e. what we are discussing here) then then seller would
not have to go into an elaborate ‘liability clause’ and the buyer (novice or
not) would know exactly what they are buying. In fact, with minibuilds available
as a new catalog branch, could we eliminate the ‘incomplete’ status (new and
used)? Is the ‘new-incomplete’ set supposed to be for minibuilds; a rampaged
set; or, a set in a box that was damaged and a sealed bag fell out (or a mixture
of the three)? What is the definition of a 'used-incomplete' set?
Miro78:
| | As far as the catalog price averages issue, I think incomplete sets need to be marked as incomplete and sale of those should not be listed or used for calculations of averages. Perhaps that is already what is happening, I just wouldn't know.
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Doing a quick investigation (and only one sample set - sorry) of the price guide
for set ‘#76105-1 The Hulkbuster: Ultron Edition’, it appears that the one minibuild
(new-incomplete set) is not included in the average price calculations. See:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?S=76105-1&ColorID=0
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| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | I don’t want to open a can of worms here, but I think this is a valid suggestion.
Can BL create a fourth entry for a set where is states:
‘Set Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’
to become
‘Set Entry | Minibuild Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’ ?
The ‘Minibuild Entry’ would contain the valid minibuilds (new and used) from
a set. Sellers are selling minibuilds anyway under 'Set Entry' as new-incomplete
and used-incomplete with the minibuld definition the description.
Separating out the minibuilds would...
- clean up the 'Set Entry';
- improve average pricing effectiveness;
- create an additional avenue for buyers and sellers
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To me, it sounds like..
1) some people will be happy to buy and sell subsets,
2) a lot more inventory work, and that also means a lot more verification work
for our inv.admin
3) if you want to do this, you need very clear definitions about what are acceptable
minibuilds. Different sellers might have different ideas about that, and it would
be easy to end up with chaos and mayhem.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 13:53 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I don't see any downside other than the work. Anyone who wants to ignore
it would be free to do so. And I don't think we would have to make a complicated
set of rules about what was and wasn't acceptable either. Just leave it
up to what people want to submit. As it is right now, a lot of set inventories
have alternates (such as a modified plate with wheels attached) but it isn't
required. So if you want to add the inventory for the car on the car ferry set,
then do so. But an inventory would not be incomplete just because someone hadn't
done so.
I sold a whole bunch of Giant Antmen from the Civil War airport set. Having
a visible "correct" place to list it would have been great. But BEYOND that,
I also would have appreciated the ability to subtract the Giant Antman parts
from the set as I was parting it out. I had to take the instructions (in hand
or online) each time and scroll through my inventory deleting them a page at
a time. Needlessly labor intensive, in my opinion.
In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | I don’t want to open a can of worms here, but I think this is a valid suggestion.
Can BL create a fourth entry for a set where is states:
‘Set Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’
to become
‘Set Entry | Minibuild Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’ ?
The ‘Minibuild Entry’ would contain the valid minibuilds (new and used) from
a set. Sellers are selling minibuilds anyway under 'Set Entry' as new-incomplete
and used-incomplete with the minibuld definition the description.
Separating out the minibuilds would...
- clean up the 'Set Entry';
- improve average pricing effectiveness;
- create an additional avenue for buyers and sellers
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 14:11 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | And I don't think we would have to make a complicated
set of rules about what was and wasn't acceptable either. Just leave it
up to what people want to submit.
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Complicated rules? I agree that they aren't necessary.
Some clear and simple guidelines will be necessary, though. For example, the
small table with two cups and a teapot in this set:
It's a minibuild, but it shouldn't be in the catalog and people will
need a general idea of what likely will and won't be accepted before they
submit builds.
Even though it will involve quite a bit more work for administrators, I think
certain minibuilds should be included in the catalog. Members have been asking
for them for a long time.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 14:24 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| | It's a minibuild, but it shouldn't be in the catalog and people will
need a general idea of what likely will and won't be accepted before they
submit builds.
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Here's an idea. It shouldn't be too difficult to set up a page like
this one:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogThemes.asp
Anyone can submit minibuilds to the page and members can then vote on them.
Once a minibuild reaches a set number of votes it gets reviewed for addition
to the catalog. That method should eliminate a number of potential problems.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 14:34 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| | In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| | It's a minibuild, but it shouldn't be in the catalog and people will
need a general idea of what likely will and won't be accepted before they
submit builds.
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Here's an idea. It shouldn't be too difficult to set up a page like
this one:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogThemes.asp
Anyone can submit minibuilds to the page and members can then vote on them.
Once a minibuild reaches a set number of votes it gets reviewed for addition
to the catalog. That method should eliminate a number of potential problems.
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Clicked that link.... Now I am disappointed to see that people can vote for BrickArms
as their favourite LEGO theme... 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 18:06 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| StormChaser:
| | Anyone can submit minibuilds to the page and members can then vote on them.
Once a minibuild reaches a set number of votes it gets reviewed for addition
to the catalog. That method should eliminate a number of potential problems.
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I don't see the need for this extra level of work. TLG spend a lot of time
and money developing their sets going through all aspects (aesthetics, durability
of builds; play-ability; build-ability, etc.) of design. Let's leverage
that time and money already spent by TLG, by submitting a minibuild to BL for
approval from TLG instructions. It would be easy to validate (from the instructions)
and easy for the seller to know what to pack and easy for the buyer to know what
parts he is buying (and how to build it).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 18:12 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | StormChaser:
| | Anyone can submit minibuilds to the page and members can then vote on them.
Once a minibuild reaches a set number of votes it gets reviewed for addition
to the catalog. That method should eliminate a number of potential problems.
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I don't see the need for this extra level of work. TLG spend a lot of time
and money developing their sets going through all aspects (aesthetics, durability
of builds; play-ability; build-ability, etc.) of design. Let's leverage
that time and money already spent by TLG, by submitting a minibuild to BL for
approval from TLG instructions. It would be easy to validate (from the instructions)
and easy for the seller to know what to pack and easy for the buyer to know what
parts he is buying (and how to build it).
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In the proposal there is no deviation from the instructions other than splitting
it in sub-builds.
TLG designed a complete set. You want to split it up, but then you have to decide
which subsets to create. You could make different choices there, and go into
any level of sub-sub-subassemblies.
StormChaser simply proposes a system that helps to focus on the minibuilds that
larger amounts of people actually want, instead of automatically approving anything
that is submitted.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 18:29 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| WoutR:
| | TLG designed a complete set. You want to split it up, but then you have to decide
which subsets to create. You could make different choices there, and go into
any level of sub-sub-subassemblies.
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True
WoutR:
| | StormChaser simply proposes a system that helps to focus on the minibuilds that
larger amounts of people actually want, instead of automatically approving anything
that is submitted.
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Yes, but this is a ‘chicken and egg’ situation. How can we know what minibuilds
people want, before we give them the choice of minibuilds to vote on?
Also, using themes has flaws, because there may be a minibuild in an ‘Agents’
set [ https://www.bricklink.com/catalogTreeCat.asp?catID=609 ] that someone would
want in a ‘Star Wars’ [ https://www.bricklink.com/catalogTreeCat.asp?catID=65
] project that are building.
If we “automatically approving anything that is submitted” then we are market
driven. The person requesting a minibuild for approval has the motive that they
want to sell the minibuild because the think there is a demand. The addition
of the marketplace will attract buyers who will either buy or leave. When the
buyers buy, other sellers will see the demand and add lots of the minibuild (as
well as request similar minibuilds for approval), increasing its competitiveness.
If the minibuild does not sell then fine, it will stay there in the catalog
until a demand is created.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 23:22 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | If the minibuild does not sell then fine, it will stay there in the catalog
until a demand is created.
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That's what I'd like to avoid. Look, there are 14,400 sets in the catalog
right now and something like 600-700 new ones added every year. I think it's
perfectly fair to expect an average of 2-3 minibuilds per set.
So we're talking 28,000 to 43,000 new catalog entries which much be checked,
approved, and then inventoried. I could never appreciate how much work that
truly is and how long it would take to complete until I became an administrator.
It would be far better to only add those minibuilds for which there is a demand,
rather than just thrusting them in willy-nilly.
My suggestion of a voting system would identify demand and satisfy it instead
of taking up everyone's time with pointless additions which no one really
wants.
And, BTW, if you haven't been keeping up with things, here are some more
numbers regarding the already-existing 14,400 sets:
32 sets have no small image
73 sets have no large image
210 sets have no year of release
455 sets have no inventories
4,318 sets have no weight
5,692 sets have no dimensions
I'm for adding minibuilds, but only those for which a reasonably high demand
exists. I also think we should be more concerned about the fact that we are
nowhere near completing work on the existing catalog entries.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 23:30 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I finished the inventory on;
today. I'm reasonably certain no one will ever want a minibuild out of that
one. 
In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| | In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | If the minibuild does not sell then fine, it will stay there in the catalog
until a demand is created.
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That's what I'd like to avoid. Look, there are 14,400 sets in the catalog
right now and something like 600-700 new ones added every year. I think it's
perfectly fair to expect an average of 2-3 minibuilds per set.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2018 00:33 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| StormChaser:
| | ...[every possible minibuild listed is] .. what I'd like to avoid. Look, there are 14,400 sets in the catalog right now and something like 600-700 new ones added every year. I think it's perfectly fair to expect an average of 2-3 minibuilds per set.
So we're talking 28,000 to 43,000 new catalog entries which much be checked, approved, and then inventoried. I could never appreciate how much work that truly is and how long it would take to complete until I became an administrator.
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Yes, I know this proposal is a huge addition to the catalog. I appreciate immensely
the work of administrators and member contributions.
StormChaser:
| | It would be far better to only add those minibuilds for which there is a demand, rather than just thrusting them in willy-nilly.
My suggestion of a voting system would identify demand and satisfy it instead of taking up everyone's time with pointless additions which no one really wants.
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First, we can never really predict demand, and usually the instinct based on
experience is a better approach than doing an ongoing poll. For example: “I've
been wanting this for YEARS!” [wahiggin]; and, “...it sounds like some people
will be happy to buy and sell subsets...” [WoutR]; and, “...the case for selling
as assemblies grows very strong.” [Admin_Russell]; and, “I have commonly sold
minibuilds on the "other" auction site. I never bothered listing them here.”
[Pretty_Pieces]; and, “I think all the cars with/out drivers from speed champions
would sell really well. ... I've also thought the duck from the batman cave
would sell well.” [leopard37].
I am not saying no to a voting system to decide upon which minibuilds to catalog
first, I just think it is not needed. Since there are probably minibuilds within
sets that people don’t know about, when they find out about them, then they may
spontaneously want them. This impromptu demand will never come up in any voting
system.
Why not start with minibuilds that are already on the system as new-incomplete
sets. In effect these sellers have already voted for the minibuild because they
took the trouble to list them as new-incomplete sets _ sometimes adding their
own photo and/or writing a complex ‘liability-clause’ in the description.
The other point is that the true asset value for BL, in the long term, is not
how many times a catalog entry sells (that’s fee income cashflow not asset value),
but the actual entry in the catalog itself.
StormChaser:
| | ... and, BTW, if you haven't been keeping up with things, here are some more numbers regarding the already-existing 14,400 sets…
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I'm for adding minibuilds, but only those for which a reasonably high demand exists. I also think we should be more concerned about the fact that we are nowhere near completing work on the existing catalog entries.
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Simplistically, a minibuild is just an inventory of a set, and that set has already
been ‘inventorised’. As an example, it took me a few minutes to go through the
newest sets and identify logical minibuilds. (see photo). I know this doesn’t
take into account images, dimensions, inventory checking etc., I'm not trying
to be blasé here, honestly.
I would volunteer my time to administer the minibuilds sub-catalog so other administrators
can carry on with the sets, minifigs, instructions, box, and, gear sub-catalogs.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 14:47 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | And I don't think we would have to make a complicated
set of rules about what was and wasn't acceptable either. Just leave it
up to what people want to submit.
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Complicated rules? I agree that they aren't necessary.
Some clear and simple guidelines will be necessary, though. For example, the
small table with two cups and a teapot in this set:
It's a minibuild, but it shouldn't be in the catalog and people will
need a general idea of what likely will and won't be accepted before they
submit builds.
Even though it will involve quite a bit more work for administrators, I think
certain minibuilds should be included in the catalog. Members have been asking
for them for a long time.
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The conditions for inclusion in the catalog may be based on perceived partout
value. If an assembly isn't a highly collectible thing itself (i.e. a heavily
branded character) and the parts involved are relatively useful to builders,
we would rather have more consolidated parts listings than split things up between
parts and assemblies.
But in the case of the Juniors Cars sets, the amount of printed parts alone (Juniors
sets do not use stickers) significantly reduces the partout value. Add to that
the juniorized parts such as this:
and the brand recognition of the Cars characters, and the case for selling as
assemblies grows very strong.
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| | | | | Author: | Pretty_Pieces | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 15:13 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I have commonly sold minibuilds on the "other" auction site. I never bothered
listing them here.
Specifically, the Tardis and control room (separately) of , and the
police car from (no stickers included).
Dawn
Pretty_Pieces
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| | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 16:14 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Pretty_Pieces:
| | I have commonly sold minibuilds on the "other" auction site. I never bothered
listing them here.
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Fantastic. So this may be an untapped market for BL and BL Sellers!
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| | | | | | | Author: | leopard37 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 17:07 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Pretty_Pieces writes:
| | I have commonly sold minibuilds on the "other" auction site. I never bothered
listing them here.
Specifically, the Tardis and control room (separately) of , and the
police car from (no stickers included).
Dawn
Pretty_Pieces
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I think all the cars with/out drivers from speed champions would sell really
well. Especially from the large sets that have a lot of other "stuff" (eg. racestands).
If you were just collecting the cars you might want to get the minibuild. I've
also thought the duck from the batman cave would sell well.
Tyson.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2018 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, leopard37 writes:
I've
| | also thought the duck from the batman cave would sell well.
Tyson.
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I sold several when it first came out. I just sold another last night after
quite a while without them selling. Still have one more.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2018 12:20 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | leopard37:
I sold several [The Penguin's Duckmobiles] when [the set] first came out. I just sold another last night after quite a while without them selling. Still have one more.
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So what about the two 'DUCK AND COVER' decals? How do the buyers react,
what do they expect?
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | | | leopard37:
I sold several [The Penguin's Duckmobiles] when [the set] first came out. I just sold another last night after quite a while without them selling. Still have one more.
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So what about the two 'DUCK AND COVER' decals? How do the buyers react,
what do they expect?
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Since it is an unusual thing, they expect what I put in the description. Unused
decals are included.
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| | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| OK, I’m running a minibuild test on a set. I have chosen set ‘#60141-1 Police
Station’:
Using the instructions, I guess the logical minibuilds would be:
Police Motorcycle
Cherry Picker
Police Station
Police Car
Police Helicopter
Issues:
The ‘stickers issue’ is the major issue, as all the above minibuilds use stickers
from the single sticker sheet (#60141stk01).
Most of the minibuilds come with their own bag but also a minifig/animal. For
example, ‘The Police Car’ comes in its own bag (bag #2) but also includes a police
minifig, the same with the ‘Police Helicopter’ which comes in bag #3 and includes
another police minifig.
All the minibuilds have their own instruction booklet except for the ‘Cherry
Picker’ and the ‘Police Motorcycle’ which share booklet #1.
Following the instructions and the separate bags The ‘Police Station’ is divided
into four sections: The Canine Department (bag #4); The Head Office with Helipad
(bag #5); The Garage (bag #6); The Barrier and Lookout Post (bag #7); and the
Prison Cells (bags #8, #9, and, #10). So should this be one minibuild (The Police
Station); or four minibuilds; or both?
We can go further into detail and part out the sub-assemblies into more minibuilds.
For instance, from the ‘Police Station’ there are at least 15 small minibuilds:
Computer Desk (four different designs); a welcome mat (which is silly without
the sticker); Exterior and Interior Lighting (four different designs); a cell
toilet; a cell bed; a coffee machine; a water cooler; a kitchenette; and, a barrier
(see photo). If a seller parted these out he would have many spare parts to
then sell as new. It is more work for the seller, but he can choose whether
he would want to do it. The big question is ‘Is this what buyers want?’. These
little builds add the ‘cuteness’ that TLG seems to be great at marketing. To
use the phrase of Bernie Loomis, these little minbuilds are ‘toyetic’, and ‘toyeticness’
sells!
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| | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 18:03 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | OK, I’m running a minibuild test on a set. I have chosen set ‘#60141-1 Police
Station’:
Using the instructions, I guess the logical minibuilds would be:
Police Motorcycle
Cherry Picker
Police Station
Police Car
Police Helicopter
Issues:
The ‘stickers issue’ is the major issue, as all the above minibuilds use stickers
from the single sticker sheet (#60141stk01).
Most of the minibuilds come with their own bag but also a minifig/animal. For
example, ‘The Police Car’ comes in its own bag (bag #2) but also includes a police
minifig, the same with the ‘Police Helicopter’ which comes in bag #3 and includes
another police minifig.
All the minibuilds have their own instruction booklet except for the ‘Cherry
Picker’ and the ‘Police Motorcycle’ which share booklet #1.
Following the instructions and the separate bags The ‘Police Station’ is divided
into four sections: The Canine Department (bag #4); The Head Office with Helipad
(bag #5); The Garage (bag #6); The Barrier and Lookout Post (bag #7); and the
Prison Cells (bags #8, #9, and, #10). So should this be one minibuild (The Police
Station); or four minibuilds; or both?
We can go further into detail and part out the sub-assemblies into more minibuilds.
For instance, from the ‘Police Station’ there are at least 15 small minibuilds:
Computer Desk (four different designs); a welcome mat (which is silly without
the sticker); Exterior and Interior Lighting (four different designs); a cell
toilet; a cell bed; a coffee machine; a water cooler; a kitchenette; and, a barrier
(see photo). If a seller parted these out he would have many spare parts to
then sell as new. It is more work for the seller, but he can choose whether
he would want to do it. The big question is ‘Is this what buyers want?’. These
little builds add the ‘cuteness’ that TLG seems to be great at marketing. To
use the phrase of Bernie Loomis, these little minbuilds are ‘toyetic’, and ‘toyeticness’
sells!
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I can understand the 5 minibuilds you mentioned above. Those sub-subassemblies
are what I called the mayhem.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2018 18:08 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| WoutR:
| | I can understand the 5 minibuilds you mentioned above. Those sub-subassemblies
are what I called the mayhem.
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LOL
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| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2018 08:23 | | Subject: | Re: Minibuilds | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Lauren_Luke writes:
| | I don’t want to open a can of worms here, but I think this is a valid suggestion.
Can BL create a fourth entry for a set where is states:
‘Set Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’
to become
‘Set Entry | Minibuild Entry | Instructions Entry | Original Box Entry’ ?
The ‘Minibuild Entry’ would contain the valid minibuilds (new and used) from
a set. Sellers are selling minibuilds anyway under 'Set Entry' as new-incomplete
and used-incomplete with the minibuld definition the description.
Separating out the minibuilds would...
- clean up the 'Set Entry';
- improve average pricing effectiveness;
- create an additional avenue for buyers and sellers
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See also
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=199990
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