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| | | Author: | udenbricks  | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2016 15:29 | | Subject: | Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 160 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| @Bricklink:
Change the address fields so the BL-subscriber can/must fill in his/her address
in the right format AND in the right order.
(the BL-subscriber is the onliest person in the world who knows his/her address
the best.)
regards,
Nico
as a seller i have too make too much changes in buyers addresses
(a waste of time)
if an address is wrong/not in the right format there are more chances for delivery
mistakes
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| | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2016 15:39 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | @Bricklink:
Change the address fields so the BL-subscriber can/must fill in his/her address
in the right format AND in the right order.
(the BL-subscriber is the onliest person in the world who knows his/her address
the best.)
regards,
Nico
as a seller i have too make too much changes in buyers addresses
(a waste of time)
if an address is wrong/not in the right format there are more chances for delivery
mistakes
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You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
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| | | | | | | Author: | udenbricks | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 08:00 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | @Bricklink:
Change the address fields so the BL-subscriber can/must fill in his/her address
in the right format AND in the right order.
(the BL-subscriber is the onliest person in the world who knows his/her address
the best.)
regards,
Nico
as a seller i have too make too much changes in buyers addresses
(a waste of time)
if an address is wrong/not in the right format there are more chances for delivery
mistakes
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You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
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That's exactly what I mean.
if the buyer does not know and Bricklink does nothing to show the right address
How the seller should know????
The seller wants to avoid problems. If Bricklink there now helps with the correct
information it should go better.
BTW Not every order comes with paypal payment and logging into paypal to find
the correct address is unnecessary when the address is good in Bricklink
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 08:27 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
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| | BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
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That's exactly what I mean.
if the buyer does not know and Bricklink does nothing to show the right address
How the seller should know????
The seller wants to avoid problems. If Bricklink there now helps with the correct
information it should go better.
BTW Not every order comes with paypal payment and logging into paypal to find
the correct address is unnecessary when the address is good in Bricklink
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Registration form fields are (almost) localized (i.e. “postal code” instead of
“ZIP code” according to your country), that makes people think that BrickLink
know what they do. They don’t.
There would be a tiny little wee thing BrickLink could do that would greatly
help the matter: just after registration, show the new member their address as
it will be shown to sellers so that they can verify it.
For now, the only time you see your (badly) formatted address is in your first
order confirmation mail (and you have to look for it).
Otherwise, it doesn’t appear in “My Profile” and you have to try and find the
right link on that page to change all your info (“Edit Account Info”)
to see it.
… And, actually, if you try to change your address, you’re presented with the
same fields as in the registration form. So you can’t even correct BL’s every
errors.
(I recall that it was a unique plain text field when I changed mine after seeing
the botched job BL did with the fields. (It had to be as I could remove the région
from appearing in it. (No région in (metropolitan) France addresses!)))
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| | | | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 09:41 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
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There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 12:50 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
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There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
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Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | udenbricks | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 14:14 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
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There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
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Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
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This is exactly the problem: Buyers are responsible for the correctness of
their own address.
But BL can and must give the tools to fill it in correctly. (BL cannot check
it)
Do you see the comma between dutch post(zip)code and city??? (also in other
country's like Belgium there is a comma) such commas can cause problems
while the post company's are reading your shipping's with character
recognition.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 15:11 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
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There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
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Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
|
This is exactly the problem: Buyers are responsible for the correctness of
their own address.
But BL can and must give the tools to fill it in correctly. (BL cannot check
it)
Do you see the comma between dutch post(zip)code and city??? (also in other
country's like Belgium there is a comma) such commas can cause problems
while the post company's are reading your shipping's with character
recognition.
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A Dutch address doesn't contain a comma between the zipcode and city:
https://www.postnl.nl/versturen/brief-of-kaart-versturen/hoe-verstuur-ik-een-brief-of-kaart/brief-adresseren/
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | udenbricks | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 15:28 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
|
There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
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Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
|
This is exactly the problem: Buyers are responsible for the correctness of
their own address.
But BL can and must give the tools to fill it in correctly. (BL cannot check
it)
Do you see the comma between dutch post(zip)code and city??? (also in other
country's like Belgium there is a comma) such commas can cause problems
while the post company's are reading your shipping's with character
recognition.
|
A Dutch address doesn't contain a comma between the zipcode and city:
https://www.postnl.nl/versturen/brief-of-kaart-versturen/hoe-verstuur-ik-een-brief-of-kaart/brief-adresseren/
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So why is BL placing that comma in your address: (see:https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 15:41 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
|
There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
|
Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
|
This is exactly the problem: Buyers are responsible for the correctness of
their own address.
But BL can and must give the tools to fill it in correctly. (BL cannot check
it)
Do you see the comma between dutch post(zip)code and city??? (also in other
country's like Belgium there is a comma) such commas can cause problems
while the post company's are reading your shipping's with character
recognition.
|
A Dutch address doesn't contain a comma between the zipcode and city:
https://www.postnl.nl/versturen/brief-of-kaart-versturen/hoe-verstuur-ik-een-brief-of-kaart/brief-adresseren/
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So why is BL placing that comma in your address: (see:https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y)
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It doesn't.  Perhaps you've entered the comma yourself.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | udenbricks | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
|
There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
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Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
|
This is exactly the problem: Buyers are responsible for the correctness of
their own address.
But BL can and must give the tools to fill it in correctly. (BL cannot check
it)
Do you see the comma between dutch post(zip)code and city??? (also in other
country's like Belgium there is a comma) such commas can cause problems
while the post company's are reading your shipping's with character
recognition.
|
A Dutch address doesn't contain a comma between the zipcode and city:
https://www.postnl.nl/versturen/brief-of-kaart-versturen/hoe-verstuur-ik-een-brief-of-kaart/brief-adresseren/
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So why is BL placing that comma in your address: (see:https://www.bricklink.com/pref_general.asp?rD=Y)
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It doesn't. Perhaps you've entered the comma yourself.
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you are Lucky 
When you change your address the comma will be placed automaticaly
Didnt you not noticed the comma between the zipcode and the city in some of
your buyers addresses??
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 16:00 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | | | You would be surprised how many people don't know how to write their own
address correct.
BL can't know, and show, the correct format for each country.
|
There are ways to have the address checked against postal databases for validity.
Various websites use them.
If BL where to verify only the USA, EU, Germany, France and the Netherlands (the
5 regions with most members), 92% of the addresses would be verified. While
I agree that BL cannot check every country, verifying 92% of addresses is much
better than 0%.
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Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
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There are postal code services, in Canada and the US at least, that is a thin
layer between the user and the site which will cleanse addresses (that are on
file).. it won't correct wrong addresses, but will format them.
But these services come at a cost.
So, from Bricklink's perspective, there are three options
1) Put the service in at their own cost
2) Put the serivce in, but make an adjustment to revenue (and since the only
revenue I think they have are fees, let's call it that)
3) Do nothing
now, based on how often a bad address makes life difficult for you, which do
you prefer.
Oh.... And you can't pick #1
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 17:14 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | Buyers are responsible for the correctness of their own address.
If BL would use their database to check addresses there might be privacy laws
involved.
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There are postal code services, in Canada and the US at least, that is a thin
layer between the user and the site which will cleanse addresses (that are on
file).. it won't correct wrong addresses, but will format them.
But these services come at a cost.
So, from Bricklink's perspective, there are three options
1) Put the service in at their own cost
2) Put the serivce in, but make an adjustment to revenue (and since the only
revenue I think they have are fees, let's call it that)
3) Do nothing
now, based on how often a bad address makes life difficult for you, which do
you prefer.
Oh.... And you can't pick #1
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There are a lot of things that I cannot pick with BL...
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| | | | | Author: | ZSchoonover | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2016 20:58 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | @Bricklink:
Change the address fields so the BL-subscriber can/must fill in his/her address
in the right format AND in the right order.
(the BL-subscriber is the onliest person in the world who knows his/her address
the best.)
regards,
Nico
as a seller i have too make too much changes in buyers addresses
(a waste of time)
if an address is wrong/not in the right format there are more chances for delivery
mistakes
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One of the many reasons I love Paypal... Verified addresses!!!
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| | | | | | | Author: | Grego | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2016 21:25 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ZSchoonover writes:
| | In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | @Bricklink:
Change the address fields so the BL-subscriber can/must fill in his/her address
in the right format AND in the right order.
(the BL-subscriber is the onliest person in the world who knows his/her address
the best.)
regards,
Nico
as a seller i have too make too much changes in buyers addresses
(a waste of time)
if an address is wrong/not in the right format there are more chances for delivery
mistakes
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One of the many reasons I love Paypal... Verified addresses!!!
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In theory PayPal should be able to format an address correctly so that the address
meets the postal standard of the addressee ...however in practice I see daily
addresses that do not meet USPS and Canada Post addressing standards ...and I
heavily suspect addresses from other countries are just as ilformed ...but PayPal
knows more about mail delivery than the post office.
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| | | | | Author: | udenbricks | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2016 14:22 | | Subject: | Re: Naming & addressing | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, udenbricks writes:
| | @Bricklink:
Change the address fields so the BL-subscriber can/must fill in his/her address
in the right format AND in the right order.
(the BL-subscriber is the onliest person in the world who knows his/her address
the best.)
regards,
Nico
as a seller i have too make too much changes in buyers addresses
(a waste of time)
if an address is wrong/not in the right format there are more chances for delivery
mistakes
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a new just arriving example:
John Doe
PO Box 999
Leichhardt
New South Wales 2040
Australia
I have to change it to:
John Doe
PO Box 999
Leichhardt NSW 2040
Australia
See: http://www.bitboost.com/ref/international-address-formats/australia/
@BL Please update the possibility's !!!!!
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Netherlands, Noord-Brabant
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
USA, Missouri
Canada, Ontario
