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 Author: Made_In_Bricks View Messages Posted By Made_In_Bricks
 Posted: Jul 29, 2016 15:44
 Subject: Best Offer Feature
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How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

First the concept in general:

Buyers could submit offers to sellers for items they have on sale.

Quick example: Seller has set A, set A sits on the shelf for a while and buyer
comes along and offers 10% under the asking price for Set A and will see if the
seller will part for that price knowing it sells right then and there. When
seller accepts offer, it is a binding sale.


Of course there are all kinds of problems from offers, spam, lowballers etc.


So some obvious programming features to include or consider:

Make Best Offer optional

Make it only allowed for sets, minifigures or some combination and leave out
parts or include all

Limit the number of offers a seller can make per hour/day/week, etc, throttle
them

Allow sellers to report buyers abusing the new feature




I think BL admin should be implementing any features that can increase buying
or selling.

I would like a feature like this instead of messaging, which can be a total waste
of time.

Buyers could enter in shipping prices in their offer helping buyers know what
they will pay ahead of time.



So what does the community think?

Good idea/bad idea?

Any other programming/implementation features to be including for buyer/seller
protection?

Would you use the feature?

Thanks,

Happy Weekend,

Ken
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 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jul 29, 2016 15:51
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Like eBay.

In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

First the concept in general:

Buyers could submit offers to sellers for items they have on sale.

Quick example: Seller has set A, set A sits on the shelf for a while and buyer
comes along and offers 10% under the asking price for Set A and will see if the
seller will part for that price knowing it sells right then and there. When
seller accepts offer, it is a binding sale.


Of course there are all kinds of problems from offers, spam, lowballers etc.


So some obvious programming features to include or consider:

Make Best Offer optional

Make it only allowed for sets, minifigures or some combination and leave out
parts or include all

Limit the number of offers a seller can make per hour/day/week, etc, throttle
them

Allow sellers to report buyers abusing the new feature




I think BL admin should be implementing any features that can increase buying
or selling.

I would like a feature like this instead of messaging, which can be a total waste
of time.

Buyers could enter in shipping prices in their offer helping buyers know what
they will pay ahead of time.



So what does the community think?

Good idea/bad idea?

Any other programming/implementation features to be including for buyer/seller
protection?

Would you use the feature?

Thanks,

Happy Weekend,

Ken
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 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Jul 29, 2016 15:58
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I'll pass (but won't vote). Whenever I offered best offer on an ebay
listing I often received offers that were quite unacceptable. I'm not talking
about 10-20% off, but 50-60% lower than fair market price. My items were always
priced to sell to begin with.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  I'll pass (but won't vote). Whenever I offered best offer on an ebay
listing I often received offers that were quite unacceptable. I'm not talking
about 10-20% off, but 50-60% lower than fair market price. My items were always
priced to sell to begin with.

That is where auto decline is useful. If I use best offer, I usually auto decline
at about 90% of asking price. That way you can consider reasonable offers without
getting bothered by the chancers.
 Author: Made_In_Bricks View Messages Posted By Made_In_Bricks
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  I'll pass (but won't vote). Whenever I offered best offer on an ebay
listing I often received offers that were quite unacceptable. I'm not talking
about 10-20% off, but 50-60% lower than fair market price. My items were always
priced to sell to begin with.

Miro,

On junkbay you can set an auto reject up to a certain amount, this deters low
balling
 Author: Made_In_Bricks View Messages Posted By Made_In_Bricks
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  I'll pass (but won't vote). Whenever I offered best offer on an ebay
listing I often received offers that were quite unacceptable. I'm not talking
about 10-20% off, but 50-60% lower than fair market price. My items were always
priced to sell to begin with.

Miro,

On junkbay you can set an auto reject up to a certain amount, this deters low
balling

Freudian slip, that is Miroslav's moc right?
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
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Yes, he created it in LDD for me, so that I could build it. He made it a little
different with a base.

  Freudian slip, that is Miroslav's moc right?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

Ah ha! Through this typo, your greed is showing!

  [… about a kind of auctions …]

Wasn’t a similar suggestion posted a few weeks ago? And another earlie? And earlier?
Etc. from time to time since auctions were removed?
 Author: FigBits View Messages Posted By FigBits
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  
Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented,...


They are. Some were added a couple of weeks ago. One was marked as "already implemented"
yesterday.


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 Author: Made_In_Bricks View Messages Posted By Made_In_Bricks
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In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  
Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented,...


They are. Some were added a couple of weeks ago. One was marked as "already implemented"
yesterday.


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Just giving a little hyperbole Marc...
 Author: FigBits View Messages Posted By FigBits
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  
Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented,...


They are. Some were added a couple of weeks ago. One was marked as "already implemented"
yesterday.


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Marc.

Just giving a little hyperbole Marc...


Fair enough. But a lot of people believe it to be true.


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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

I don't like it...

  Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

FALSE. Have a look at the list again...

  ...
 Author: Made_In_Bricks View Messages Posted By Made_In_Bricks
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In Suggestions, JayBeeOnline writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

I don't like it...

  Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

FALSE. Have a look at the list again...

  ...


Hyperbole...
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  In Suggestions, JayBeeOnline writes:
  In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

I don't like it...

  Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

FALSE. Have a look at the list again...

  ...


Hyperbole...

Hyper? ...not sure I I'd go that far ...maybe superbole but most likely just
bole. 😁
 Author: edk View Messages Posted By edk
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

First the concept in general:

Buyers could submit offers to sellers for items they have on sale.

Quick example: Seller has set A, set A sits on the shelf for a while and buyer
comes along and offers 10% under the asking price for Set A and will see if the
seller will part for that price knowing it sells right then and there. When
seller accepts offer, it is a binding sale.


Of course there are all kinds of problems from offers, spam, lowballers etc.


So some obvious programming features to include or consider:

Make Best Offer optional

Make it only allowed for sets, minifigures or some combination and leave out
parts or include all

Limit the number of offers a seller can make per hour/day/week, etc, throttle
them

Allow sellers to report buyers abusing the new feature




I think BL admin should be implementing any features that can increase buying
or selling.

I would like a feature like this instead of messaging, which can be a total waste
of time.

Buyers could enter in shipping prices in their offer helping buyers know what
they will pay ahead of time.



So what does the community think?

Good idea/bad idea?

Any other programming/implementation features to be including for buyer/seller
protection?

Would you use the feature?

Thanks,

Happy Weekend,

Ken
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I see no need to turn BL into a flea market type of site. I get more inquiries
already (without inviting them) than I care for begging for discounts. If sellers
want to take less, just lower the price.
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I see no need to turn BL into a flea market type of site. I get more inquiries
already (without inviting them) than I care for begging for discounts. If sellers
want to take less, just lower the price.

If you don't want the inquiries, don't use the feature.

I don't like getting spam messages about offers as it is, does this mean
I don't want perspective buyers to contact me? No, I just have to take good
with the bad.
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  
  
I see no need to turn BL into a flea market type of site. I get more inquiries
already (without inviting them) than I care for begging for discounts. If sellers
want to take less, just lower the price.

If you don't want the inquiries, don't use the feature.

I don't like getting spam messages about offers as it is, does this mean
I don't want perspective buyers to contact me? No, I just have to take good
with the bad.

Not using the feature will not matter. By inviting offers in some stores it will
lead to more and more people expecting those who do not want to receive offers
being bothered with offers anyway. Just like ebay (fleabay) currently.
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Not using the feature will not matter. By inviting offers in some stores it will
lead to more and more people expecting those who do not want to receive offers
being bothered with offers anyway. Just like ebay (fleabay) currently.


allow for this to be displayed on the message screen
 
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I see no need to turn BL into a flea market type of site. I get more inquiries
already (without inviting them) than I care for begging for discounts. If sellers
want to take less, just lower the price.



I currently have an item for sale:

[p=598pb01]

cheapest available at about the same price as the last one sold. However it
will probably sit there for a while.

However, if I had a BINDING Offer and I could accept or deny, I would have a
hard time not accepting anything over $100 on a binding offer for this part.

I get money, bricklink gets money, buyer gets part for cheaper

alternative, it sits on the shelf for longer and no one gets anything.
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

First the concept in general:

Buyers could submit offers to sellers for items they have on sale.

Quick example: Seller has set A, set A sits on the shelf for a while and buyer
comes along and offers 10% under the asking price for Set A and will see if the
seller will part for that price knowing it sells right then and there. When
seller accepts offer, it is a binding sale.


Of course there are all kinds of problems from offers, spam, lowballers etc.


So some obvious programming features to include or consider:

Make Best Offer optional

Make it only allowed for sets, minifigures or some combination and leave out
parts or include all

Limit the number of offers a seller can make per hour/day/week, etc, throttle
them

Allow sellers to report buyers abusing the new feature




I think BL admin should be implementing any features that can increase buying
or selling.

I would like a feature like this instead of messaging, which can be a total waste
of time.

Buyers could enter in shipping prices in their offer helping buyers know what
they will pay ahead of time.



So what does the community think?

Good idea/bad idea?

Any other programming/implementation features to be including for buyer/seller
protection?

Would you use the feature?

Thanks,

Happy Weekend,

Ken
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Voted no - wouldn't really like to see Bricklink become an auction site.
Far to many problems associated with that - if people wish to auction their inventory
there are lots of sites both on this side of the pond and that side to deal with
it.
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Voted no - wouldn't really like to see Bricklink become an auction site.
Far to many problems associated with that - if people wish to auction their inventory
there are lots of sites both on this side of the pond and that side to deal with
it.

It wouldn't make it an auction site, it would allow buyers to put in binding
offers

Those auction sites also charge a lot more in fees, one of the tenants of creating
this site was to NOT sell lego on those sites and to reduce fees for sellers
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  
  
Voted no - wouldn't really like to see Bricklink become an auction site.
Far to many problems associated with that - if people wish to auction their inventory
there are lots of sites both on this side of the pond and that side to deal with
it.

It wouldn't make it an auction site, it would allow buyers to put in binding
offers

Those auction sites also charge a lot more in fees, one of the tenants of creating
this site was to NOT sell lego on those sites and to reduce fees for sellers

Understand your point - but still feel it would be too much like auctioning your
items. Appreciate you wanted it to be optional but in all honesty it just adds
more complications to the way the site runs at present (and not all that confident
that the development team would get this right).

Good luck with the idea
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In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

First the concept in general:

Buyers could submit offers to sellers for items they have on sale.

Quick example: Seller has set A, set A sits on the shelf for a while and buyer
comes along and offers 10% under the asking price for Set A and will see if the
seller will part for that price knowing it sells right then and there. When
seller accepts offer, it is a binding sale.


Of course there are all kinds of problems from offers, spam, lowballers etc.


So some obvious programming features to include or consider:

Make Best Offer optional

Make it only allowed for sets, minifigures or some combination and leave out
parts or include all

Limit the number of offers a seller can make per hour/day/week, etc, throttle
them

Allow sellers to report buyers abusing the new feature




I think BL admin should be implementing any features that can increase buying
or selling.

I would like a feature like this instead of messaging, which can be a total waste
of time.

Buyers could enter in shipping prices in their offer helping buyers know what
they will pay ahead of time.



So what does the community think?

Good idea/bad idea?

Any other programming/implementation features to be including for buyer/seller
protection?

Would you use the feature?

Thanks,

Happy Weekend,

Ken
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Whow,, you want to sell it all.

Even the nice hard to find collectors sets ?

And all for a nice price ?


This reminds me when i had a new grillfrind ( years ago) she needed al the shelfs.

Yeh, have a nice weekend all.

Steekstra
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That's why we already have the option to have sales.

In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
  How would buyers and sellers feel about a best offer feature?

Of course I know no suggestions are ever implemented, but let's have fund
discussing the topic.

First the concept in general:

Buyers could submit offers to sellers for items they have on sale.

Quick example: Seller has set A, set A sits on the shelf for a while and buyer
comes along and offers 10% under the asking price for Set A and will see if the
seller will part for that price knowing it sells right then and there. When
seller accepts offer, it is a binding sale.


Of course there are all kinds of problems from offers, spam, lowballers etc.


So some obvious programming features to include or consider:

Make Best Offer optional

Make it only allowed for sets, minifigures or some combination and leave out
parts or include all

Limit the number of offers a seller can make per hour/day/week, etc, throttle
them

Allow sellers to report buyers abusing the new feature




I think BL admin should be implementing any features that can increase buying
or selling.

I would like a feature like this instead of messaging, which can be a total waste
of time.

Buyers could enter in shipping prices in their offer helping buyers know what
they will pay ahead of time.



So what does the community think?

Good idea/bad idea?

Any other programming/implementation features to be including for buyer/seller
protection?

Would you use the feature?

Thanks,

Happy Weekend,

Ken
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