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| | | Author: | edk  | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 11:04 | | Subject: | Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 176 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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| | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 11:20 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
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I decided to stop selling these boxes all together. In the last year we had exactly
one inquiry, and it was accompanied with a request to ship the CAD 0.75 empty
box to California for CAD 2.00 shipping cost. That box was BIG, it would need
at least CAD 8.13 shipping cost for the size alone even when shipping flattened.
Yah, no.
Niek.
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| | | | | Author: | WhiteVanMan | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 11:24 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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I can understand your opinion on this matter, however, I have a few boxes that
have been 'used' as you call it, but the quality of them is far superior
than a generally accepted 'used' one would be.
For example, I buy a opened, built, and displayed Atlantis set at my local car
boot sale last year, and while the set is in a good quality condition, the box
has numerous creases from being in the bottom of the pile in the shed/under the
bed/cupboard, I'd call that box as used, because it is NOT in a pristine
condition.
However, I have, in my un-sorted/unlisted/back-up stock, the same set, still
sealed, and so, when I get round to parting it out, I'd open it in a manner
that would ensure that it could be displayed without the obvious signs of being
opened, and yet, the condition of the box is the same as it was when it left
the factory 5 years ago. (still new in my opinion)
I think what you will need to do is to request that the cat admins have several
levels of box quality available when listing the 'original' box within
someone's inventory.
Maybe this will help to ensure that the correct levels of box quality are being
sold under?
Paul
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| | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 11:41 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, WhiteVanMan writes:
| | In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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I can understand your opinion on this matter, however, I have a few boxes that
have been 'used' as you call it, but the quality of them is far superior
than a generally accepted 'used' one would be.
For example, I buy a opened, built, and displayed Atlantis set at my local car
boot sale last year, and while the set is in a good quality condition, the box
has numerous creases from being in the bottom of the pile in the shed/under the
bed/cupboard, I'd call that box as used, because it is NOT in a pristine
condition.
However, I have, in my un-sorted/unlisted/back-up stock, the same set, still
sealed, and so, when I get round to parting it out, I'd open it in a manner
that would ensure that it could be displayed without the obvious signs of being
opened, and yet, the condition of the box is the same as it was when it left
the factory 5 years ago. (still new in my opinion)
I think what you will need to do is to request that the cat admins have several
levels of box quality available when listing the 'original' box within
someone's inventory.
Maybe this will help to ensure that the correct levels of box quality are being
sold under?
Paul
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It is Not a level of quality. It is simply new vs. used. applying your justification
of listing a box as new because of it's quality is the same as listing like
new Used bricks as new.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 11:47 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| All moot when Star Trek transporters can beam the contents from a sealed box
and safely transport them into the proper drawers in your inventory, leaving
the sealed box new
Hardly worth changing now since those transporters are right around the corner,
right 
In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | In Suggestions, WhiteVanMan writes:
| | In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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I can understand your opinion on this matter, however, I have a few boxes that
have been 'used' as you call it, but the quality of them is far superior
than a generally accepted 'used' one would be.
For example, I buy a opened, built, and displayed Atlantis set at my local car
boot sale last year, and while the set is in a good quality condition, the box
has numerous creases from being in the bottom of the pile in the shed/under the
bed/cupboard, I'd call that box as used, because it is NOT in a pristine
condition.
However, I have, in my un-sorted/unlisted/back-up stock, the same set, still
sealed, and so, when I get round to parting it out, I'd open it in a manner
that would ensure that it could be displayed without the obvious signs of being
opened, and yet, the condition of the box is the same as it was when it left
the factory 5 years ago. (still new in my opinion)
I think what you will need to do is to request that the cat admins have several
levels of box quality available when listing the 'original' box within
someone's inventory.
Maybe this will help to ensure that the correct levels of box quality are being
sold under?
Paul
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It is Not a level of quality. It is simply new vs. used. applying your justification
of listing a box as new because of it's quality is the same as listing like
new Used bricks as new.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 12:01 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | All moot when Star Trek transporters can beam the contents from a sealed box
and safely transport them into the proper drawers in your inventory, leaving
the sealed box new
Hardly worth changing now since those transporters are right around the corner,
right
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If we’re going all Star Trek, replicators’ll make a lot of things easier… 
and a lot of other things, like BL, useless 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | WhiteVanMan | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | In Suggestions, edk writes:
I think what you will need to do is to request that the cat admins have several
levels of box quality available when listing the 'original' box within
someone's inventory.
Maybe this will help to ensure that the correct levels of box quality are being
sold under?
Paul
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It is Not a level of quality. It is simply new vs. used. applying your justification
of listing a box as new because of it's quality is the same as listing like
new Used bricks as new.
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Let me make it quite clear, right here and now, I have never sold any LEGO that
has been used even once as new, because this is against my ethos.
You didn't even accept the fact my suggestion would do away with the NEW
v's USED debate, as every seller of LEGO understands, there are a few levels
of 'used' when it comes to LEGO, and we all know, chewed, bitten and
yellowed LEGO is not acceptable or even fit enough to be sold as used, except
for use as 'filler' material in building up large landscapes.
My suggestion was this, REMOVE the 'new' listing, and add several levels
of 'used' for the set boxes ONLY.
That way, you will be happy, a few 'original' box sellers will be happy
as they will be able to classify what level of quality their box is in, and the
buyers will be able to judge for them selves.
Regards,
Paul
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| | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 11:53 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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Following that reasoning, we should also classify all parts from a set 'used',
as prior to final wrapping parts are only handled by machines (mainly). Once
sets move out of factory, they get tossed, so the parts start rubbing against
eachother, then to part them out, we pour out the bags on a table and then we
sort and handle the parts, then they go in storage, some might move out fast,
others will remain in stock for ages, but are still 'moved' around when
picking other parts (depending on how people store). In the end, a part **might**
not be flawless anymore because of it... But we still sell 'new'. So
why would a pristine and carefully opened box no longer be 'new' while
parts from that same set might have scratches if longer time in storage...
The intent is to classify, that's it, if pristine, I see nothing wrong with
'new' for a box, just in the same we sell 'new' sets (and which
might have shelfwear, oftenly not even mentioned by sellers).
So 'No' for me, I'm actually more worried about the quality of 'used'
items, as it seems A LOT of sellers don't even bother stating an actual condition
(or lack quality control), particulary on more expensive sets, boxes, instructions,
parts and minifigs, so what am I buying? A used but very good condition item,
or one with damage/tears/discolorisation/bitemarks 
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| | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 12:19 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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Following that reasoning, we should also classify all parts from a set 'used',
as prior to final wrapping parts are only handled by machines (mainly). Once
sets move out of factory, they get tossed, so the parts start rubbing against
eachother, then to part them out, we pour out the bags on a table and then we
sort and handle the parts, then they go in storage, some might move out fast,
others will remain in stock for ages, but are still 'moved' around when
picking other parts (depending on how people store). In the end, a part **might**
not be flawless anymore because of it... But we still sell 'new'. So
why would a pristine and carefully opened box no longer be 'new' while
parts from that same set might have scratches if longer time in storage...
The intent is to classify, that's it, if pristine, I see nothing wrong with
'new' for a box, just in the same we sell 'new' sets (and which
might have shelfwear, oftenly not even mentioned by sellers).
So 'No' for me, I'm actually more worried about the quality of 'used'
items, as it seems A LOT of sellers don't even bother stating an actual condition
(or lack quality control), particulary on more expensive sets, boxes, instructions,
parts and minifigs, so what am I buying? A used but very good condition item,
or one with damage/tears/discolorisation/bitemarks
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BL classifies parts pulled from new sealed sets as new until they have been used
to build. Simple to comprehend. Since every box was Used (built up,glued,taped)
as intended it can no longer be New. Simple to comprehend as well in my eyes.
New does not mean perfect.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | DagsBricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 12:49 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | BL classifies parts pulled from new sealed sets as new until they have been used
to build. Simple to comprehend. Since every box was Used (built up,glued,taped)
as intended it can no longer be New. Simple to comprehend as well in my eyes.
New does not mean perfect.
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By that reasoning it should be that the cardboard and ink has been used to become
a new box. Of course then the ABS is used but the parts are new. Now we're
at the point of parsing hairs over what 'new' means. It sounds like you
are aiming for first intended use. The cardboard and ink was new when it went
into making the box. Now of course it's used but the higher product, the
box, is new. Then the new box is used to package a set and you are saying it
is now used. Unless somebody is lucky enough to score a freshly printed piece
of uncut uncreased cardboard directly from GSS, all boxes are used. But I think
that pushes the midpoint too far off of the spectrum to be of any use for this
system.
I'm with WhiteVanMan on the gradation scale.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | therobo | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 13:00 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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Following that reasoning, we should also classify all parts from a set 'used',
as prior to final wrapping parts are only handled by machines (mainly). Once
sets move out of factory, they get tossed, so the parts start rubbing against
eachother, then to part them out, we pour out the bags on a table and then we
sort and handle the parts, then they go in storage, some might move out fast,
others will remain in stock for ages, but are still 'moved' around when
picking other parts (depending on how people store). In the end, a part **might**
not be flawless anymore because of it... But we still sell 'new'. So
why would a pristine and carefully opened box no longer be 'new' while
parts from that same set might have scratches if longer time in storage...
The intent is to classify, that's it, if pristine, I see nothing wrong with
'new' for a box, just in the same we sell 'new' sets (and which
might have shelfwear, oftenly not even mentioned by sellers).
So 'No' for me, I'm actually more worried about the quality of 'used'
items, as it seems A LOT of sellers don't even bother stating an actual condition
(or lack quality control), particulary on more expensive sets, boxes, instructions,
parts and minifigs, so what am I buying? A used but very good condition item,
or one with damage/tears/discolorisation/bitemarks
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BL classifies parts pulled from new sealed sets as new until they have been used
to build. Simple to comprehend. Since every box was Used (built up,glued,taped)
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Up to this state a box is new, because before it was a box it was simply flat
and printed cardboard, glue and sometimes tape seals.
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What makes a box "Used" is opening it, as it causes damage, even if opened very
carefully.
Some very old boxes where never glued to become shut, but simply folded and afterwards
shrinkwrapped in plastic foil.
An opened box from the last ~40 years is never ever "New" but always "Used" because
damaged.
| | Simple to comprehend as well in my eyes.
New does not mean perfect.
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Btw. have you noticed how many sellers lie about the state of parts with stickers
applied?
http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?pg=1&q=%2Dmagnetic+%2Dsheet+%2Dstickered+pattern+sticker%2A&invNew=N&viewFrom=sa&advOpt=Y&sz=500&searchSort=P
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 15:55 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| If a seller sells the part and the sticker cut from the sheet (not applied) is
it still new?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | therobo | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 16:09 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
| | If a seller sells the part and the sticker cut from the sheet (not applied) is
it still new?
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I would say yes, and I also found at least one of such listings, but the majority
do not state anything, so it must be assumed that the stickers are applied, hence
the parts are used.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 13:11 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | BL classifies parts pulled from new sealed sets as new until they have been used
to build. Simple to comprehend. Since every box was Used (built up,glued,taped)
as intended it can no longer be New. Simple to comprehend as well in my eyes.
New does not mean perfect.
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OK, so a set with broken seals ain't 'new' either? According to the
classification BL gives, such a set is still 'new', it's just no
longer sealed. So technicly, an open 'new' box *with content* is still
considered 'new', but an empty one would not be 'new', because
you took out the lego
Now I'm pretty sure every seller with a 'seals broken' set, actually
took out the LEGO to check the content, then placed it back in, so as 'used'
set then (soon 1 item is used, a whole set becomes used)
This is nitpicking and leads us nowhere IMHO, as long as there are no real issues
between buyers and sellers because of it (think I've never seen a complaint
about such on the forum and I've been around for a while now). I really don't
see the point of discussing it, as long as there aren't frequent complaints.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 13:37 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | BL classifies parts pulled from new sealed sets as new until they have been used
to build. Simple to comprehend. Since every box was Used (built up,glued,taped)
as intended it can no longer be New. Simple to comprehend as well in my eyes.
New does not mean perfect.
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OK, so a set with broken seals ain't 'new' either? According to the
classification BL gives, such a set is still 'new', it's just no
longer sealed. So technicly, an open 'new' box *with content* is still
considered 'new', but an empty one would not be 'new', because
you took out the lego
Now I'm pretty sure every seller with a 'seals broken' set, actually
took out the LEGO to check the content, then placed it back in, so as 'used'
set then (soon 1 item is used, a whole set becomes used)
This is nitpicking and leads us nowhere IMHO, as long as there are no real issues
between buyers and sellers because of it (think I've never seen a complaint
about such on the forum and I've been around for a while now). I really don't
see the point of discussing it, as long as there aren't frequent complaints.
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"This is nitpicking and leads us nowhere "
at least you are sticking to what you are good at.
So sorry I was trying to simplify something by removal of an invalid classification.
Selling empty boxes is tough enough without competing with the sellers who list
them as new which I believe leads the buyer to think they are New and better
than the like new ones others sell as used. This would also prevent the oh so
many newish buyers from buying an empty box while thinking it was the complete
set for 50 cents
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DagsBricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | This would also prevent the oh so
many newish buyers from buying an empty box while thinking it was the complete
set for 50 cents
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That there is a really good argument. I've sold a few boxes to newbies, asked
if they knew they were buying *just* the box, then cancelled the order due to
the misunderstanding.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 15:34 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DagsBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | This would also prevent the oh so
many newish buyers from buying an empty box while thinking it was the complete
set for 50 cents
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That there is a really good argument. I've sold a few boxes to newbies, asked
if they knew they were buying *just* the box, then cancelled the order due to
the misunderstanding.
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I've sold many empty boxes and I always contact to be sure and offer to cancel.
99% of these (new) buyers do know and intended to buy the empty box.
I ship to where they want and they're happy with an empty box.
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| | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 15:02 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I think I suggested this a long time ago, must have been before they stopped
purging suggestions. If I remember right, most people at that time felt there
where cases where an opened box could be new. I agree that there are many users
that think they are ordering a set, when they buy a box.
Darren
In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
Ed
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| | | | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 15:30 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | I agree that there are many users that think they are ordering a set, when they buy a box.
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Is that linked to the fact an original box would be listed as being 'new',
or is that linked to the fact the 'standard description' isn't explicit
enough?
Let me rephrase: Say a brand new user ends up browings here and finds
Listed used...
The seller is smart enough to state it's an EMPTY box, but what if he didn't,
do you think the potential buyer will KNOW that it's not a full set because
it's listed 'used' ?
Can we assume that the buyer would 'snatch' it because for him the price
seems reasonable for such a set?
The fact it is listed used doesn't make a difference, it's the description
that fails, and it would take BL 2 minutes to add the word empty between original
and box to solve that particular issue: original(empty)box
Luckely the seller here is smart enough to state it himself.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | toontexas | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 20:32 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | The fact it is listed used doesn't make a difference, it's the description
that fails, and it would take BL 2 minutes to add the word empty between original
and box to solve that particular issue: original(empty)box
Luckely the seller here is smart enough to state it himself.
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But not every box is empty. Older LEGO sets came in a box with a plastic insert
to display the pieces. Your solution would cause confusion for buyers and sellers
when it comes to these older boxes.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2015 20:43 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| The fact that new users tend to think the box entry is a set is not really related
to the new/used debate. My attic is currently holding at least 600 lbs of unused
boxes, as in, I only opened them, and stacked them flat. I will probably list
them some day, if there is a demand for them, as "used".
Darren
In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
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| | I agree that there are many users that think they are ordering a set, when they buy a box.
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Is that linked to the fact an original box would be listed as being 'new',
or is that linked to the fact the 'standard description' isn't explicit
enough?
Let me rephrase: Say a brand new user ends up browings here and finds
Listed used...
The seller is smart enough to state it's an EMPTY box, but what if he didn't,
do you think the potential buyer will KNOW that it's not a full set because
it's listed 'used' ?
Can we assume that the buyer would 'snatch' it because for him the price
seems reasonable for such a set?
The fact it is listed used doesn't make a difference, it's the description
that fails, and it would take BL 2 minutes to add the word empty between original
and box to solve that particular issue: original(empty)box
Luckely the seller here is smart enough to state it himself.
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| | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2023 18:44 | | Subject: | Re: Remove New classification for boxes | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Suggestions, edk writes:
| | I would like to suggest that the NEW classification for empty boxes be removed.
They just do not exist (maybe on an extremely rare occasion) but people still
keep listing them as new. For the people who think they are correct in listing
as new I challenge you to answer this question. What was used to contain the
particular Lego set you parted out ? Hint..... it was the box. It was USED for
a purpose.. Looking at the price guide it seems like people buy the incorrectly
listed as new more often than the honestly listed boxes. I just feel it is an
unfair advantage for those who are misleading with their new designation.
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Mind if we revisit this?
I sniffed around the forum for about an hour and don't see any follow up
discussion, but I do see everyone listing currently available set boxes as "new".
I just followed the pack and ended up selling a non-flattened box this morning
as "new" but it seems weird.
It's been seven years since this was brought up. Are people just generally
grading them as new or used depending on how pristine the box is?
I went ahead and removed all my boxes for the moment so you won't find anything
in my store. I wanted to get some up-to-date input from everyone before re-listing.
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