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| | | Author: | BLUSER_21972  | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 06:53 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
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| | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 10:58 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, lnkvt writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
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Is it true that motor wheels always came with the rubber rim pre-assembled?
I remember having wheels with the train engine on them, and at the time I did
not know that there were other train wheels with a wagon on them. I always thought
the engine symbol stood for "train", but apparently it meant "this one has a
rubber rim, make sure these ones are used with the motor".
Russell
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| | | | | | | Author: | therobo | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 11:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, lnkvt writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
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Is it true that motor wheels always came with the rubber rim pre-assembled?
I remember having wheels with the train engine on them, and at the time I did
not know that there were other train wheels with a wagon on them. I always thought
the engine symbol stood for "train", but apparently it meant "this one has a
rubber rim, make sure these ones are used with the motor".
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No, it means "I have a different shape than the other one!"
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, lnkvt writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
|
Is it true that motor wheels always came with the rubber rim pre-assembled?
I remember having wheels with the train engine on them, and at the time I did
not know that there were other train wheels with a wagon on them. I always thought
the engine symbol stood for "train", but apparently it meant "this one has a
rubber rim, make sure these ones are used with the motor".
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No, it means "I have a different shape than the other one!"
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I don't perceive any difference in shape, but I'm only looking at the
catalog images and I don't have a physical wagon wheel to compare to the
engine type. Where is the shape different?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | therobo | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 11:36 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, lnkvt writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
|
Is it true that motor wheels always came with the rubber rim pre-assembled?
I remember having wheels with the train engine on them, and at the time I did
not know that there were other train wheels with a wagon on them. I always thought
the engine symbol stood for "train", but apparently it meant "this one has a
rubber rim, make sure these ones are used with the motor".
|
No, it means "I have a different shape than the other one!"
|
I don't perceive any difference in shape, but I'm only looking at the
catalog images and I don't have a physical wagon wheel to compare to the
engine type. Where is the shape different?
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has a straight hub
has a beveled hub
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, lnkvt writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
|
Is it true that motor wheels always came with the rubber rim pre-assembled?
I remember having wheels with the train engine on them, and at the time I did
not know that there were other train wheels with a wagon on them. I always thought
the engine symbol stood for "train", but apparently it meant "this one has a
rubber rim, make sure these ones are used with the motor".
|
No, it means "I have a different shape than the other one!"
|
I don't perceive any difference in shape, but I'm only looking at the
catalog images and I don't have a physical wagon wheel to compare to the
engine type. Where is the shape different?
|
has a straight hub
has a beveled hub
|
Isn't this difference, though, based entirely on one having to hold (and
make space for) a rubber rim, and the other not using the rim? In other words,
the beveled wheel was always used with the rim, and the straight one never had
the rim.
The reason I am poking for information on this is that I believe it would be
best, when we start making adjustments to the way early wheels are handled in
inventories, that the engine wheel with rim assembly:
...be listed in the Regular Items section, similar to these wheels:
...which always came assembled, and were considered to be a single part by TLG
at the time.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 12:46 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, lnkvt writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
|
Is it true that motor wheels always came with the rubber rim pre-assembled?
I remember having wheels with the train engine on them, and at the time I did
not know that there were other train wheels with a wagon on them. I always thought
the engine symbol stood for "train", but apparently it meant "this one has a
rubber rim, make sure these ones are used with the motor".
|
No, it means "I have a different shape than the other one!"
|
I don't perceive any difference in shape, but I'm only looking at the
catalog images and I don't have a physical wagon wheel to compare to the
engine type. Where is the shape different?
|
has a straight hub
has a beveled hub
|
Isn't this difference, though, based entirely on one having to hold (and
make space for) a rubber rim, and the other not using the rim? In other words,
the beveled wheel was always used with the rim, and the straight one never had
the rim.
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That is correct, and the beveled form is not to make space for the rim, it is
to avoid it slips off, as when 'running' it generates centrifugal force
and so on a straight wheel the rim slips off, it does not on the beveled version.
The rims are obviously needed to create traction clutch when running with a motor,
on a 'push' train this was not needed/not the case, so the OP is most
likely right
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The reason I am poking for information on this is that I believe it would be
best, when we start making adjustments to the way early wheels are handled in
inventories, that the engine wheel with rim assembly:
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As far as I can remember, the rims where not factory placed on the wheels (neither
in the 12V series btw), probably because they would start to stretch right from
the start, some boxes show them as a seperate item in the displayed parts list
if I recall well (would need to check to make sure).
| | ...be listed in the Regular Items section
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please not...
| | similar to these wheels:
...which always came assembled, and were considered to be a single part by TLG
at the time.
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Yes correct but then in the '80 and even in the '90 some assemblies where
regular as well, but never supported by the site 'inventory' wise:
Change made to reflect reality based on MISB set
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=1760-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
with things 'undone' later on 
Sure the change I made created 'inconsistancy', but it created a precendent
with the intend to reflect more reality in inventories, while now it's just
'consistent', fact is, LEGO has not always been consistant, so why should
we? Let inventories reflect reality, period.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2015 16:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 126-1 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, lnkvt writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel2a Train Wheel Spoked for Motor to wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon}
Comments from Submitter:
This set comes with wagon wheels, not motor wheels.
|
Is it true that motor wheels always came with the rubber rim pre-assembled?
I remember having wheels with the train engine on them, and at the time I did
not know that there were other train wheels with a wagon on them. I always thought
the engine symbol stood for "train", but apparently it meant "this one has a
rubber rim, make sure these ones are used with the motor".
|
No, it means "I have a different shape than the other one!"
|
I don't perceive any difference in shape, but I'm only looking at the
catalog images and I don't have a physical wagon wheel to compare to the
engine type. Where is the shape different?
|
has a straight hub
has a beveled hub
|
Isn't this difference, though, based entirely on one having to hold (and
make space for) a rubber rim, and the other not using the rim? In other words,
the beveled wheel was always used with the rim, and the straight one never had
the rim.
|
That is correct, and the beveled form is not to make space for the rim, it is
to avoid it slips off, as when 'running' it generates centrifugal force
and so on a straight wheel the rim slips off, it does not on the beveled version.
The rims are obviously needed to create traction clutch when running with a motor,
on a 'push' train this was not needed/not the case, so the OP is most
likely right
| |
The reason I am poking for information on this is that I believe it would be
best, when we start making adjustments to the way early wheels are handled in
inventories, that the engine wheel with rim assembly:
|
As far as I can remember, the rims where not factory placed on the wheels (neither
in the 12V series btw), probably because they would start to stretch right from
the start, some boxes show them as a seperate item in the displayed parts list
if I recall well (would need to check to make sure).
| | ...be listed in the Regular Items section
|
please not...
| | similar to these wheels:
...which always came assembled, and were considered to be a single part by TLG
at the time.
|
Yes correct but then in the '80 and even in the '90 some assemblies where
regular as well, but never supported by the site 'inventory' wise:
Change made to reflect reality based on MISB set
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=1760-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
with things 'undone' later on
Sure the change I made created 'inconsistancy', but it created a precendent
with the intend to reflect more reality in inventories, while now it's just
'consistent', fact is, LEGO has not always been consistant, so why should
we? Let inventories reflect reality, period.
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The overall idea has always been to represent reality, but there were exceptions
made in the past that cannot be undone overnight. We are working on it, and at
some point I expect these wheels will be listed as you found them in your sealed
set.
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