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 Author: Mortimer View Messages Posted By Mortimer
 Posted: Nov 6, 2015 10:39
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8002-1
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Mortimer (1186)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8002  Name: Destroyer Droid
* 
8002-1 (Inv) Destroyer Droid
567 Parts, 2000
Sets: Technic: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 2 Part x88 Black Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section) (match ID 1)
* Add 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3
* Add 3 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Extra)
* Change {4 to 2} Part Black x88 Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section)
* Change {35 to 37} Part Black 32062 Technic, Axle 2 Notched

Comments from Submitter:
After having built main and alternate models from this set (new set), and considering the additional notes regarding alternate red rubber bands.
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Nov 6, 2015 13:37
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8002-1
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In Inventories Requests, Mortimer writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8002  Name: Destroyer Droid
* 
8002-1 (Inv) Destroyer Droid
567 Parts, 2000
Sets: Technic: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 2 Part x88 Black Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section) (match ID 1)
* Add 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3
* Add 3 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Extra)
* Change {4 to 2} Part Black x88 Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section)
* Change {35 to 37} Part Black 32062 Technic, Axle 2 Notched

Comments from Submitter:
After having built main and alternate models from this set (new set), and considering the additional notes regarding alternate red rubber bands.

Does your copy of instructions differ at all from the ones published online at
Brickfactory or Lego Customer Service?

Russell
 Author: Mortimer View Messages Posted By Mortimer
 Posted: Nov 6, 2015 19:47
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8002-1
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Mortimer (1186)

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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Mortimer writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8002  Name: Destroyer Droid
* 
8002-1 (Inv) Destroyer Droid
567 Parts, 2000
Sets: Technic: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 2 Part x88 Black Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section) (match ID 1)
* Add 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3
* Add 3 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Extra)
* Change {4 to 2} Part Black x88 Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section)
* Change {35 to 37} Part Black 32062 Technic, Axle 2 Notched

Comments from Submitter:
After having built main and alternate models from this set (new set), and considering the additional notes regarding alternate red rubber bands.

Does your copy of instructions differ at all from the ones published online at
Brickfactory or Lego Customer Service?

Russell

Hi,

My copy looks to be the same as the one at Brickfactory.

So this set seems to contain either:
- 4x Black x88 or
- 2x Black x88 and 2x Red X37

Hence the inventory change request.

Frédéric
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Nov 7, 2015 18:11
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8002-1
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In Inventories Requests, Mortimer writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Mortimer writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8002  Name: Destroyer Droid
* 
8002-1 (Inv) Destroyer Droid
567 Parts, 2000
Sets: Technic: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 2 Part x88 Black Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section) (match ID 1)
* Add 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3
* Add 3 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Extra)
* Change {4 to 2} Part Black x88 Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section)
* Change {35 to 37} Part Black 32062 Technic, Axle 2 Notched

Comments from Submitter:
After having built main and alternate models from this set (new set), and considering the additional notes regarding alternate red rubber bands.

Does your copy of instructions differ at all from the ones published online at
Brickfactory or Lego Customer Service?

Russell

Hi,

My copy looks to be the same as the one at Brickfactory.

So this set seems to contain either:
- 4x Black x88 or
- 2x Black x88 and 2x Red X37

Hence the inventory change request.

Frédéric

Without having done a complete study, your proposition regarding rubber bands
seems correct. Apparently, for the ball to open up to become a fighting machine,
the head has to move toward the inside slightly. The larger (i.e. weaker) red
rubber bands help that, and also there is an assembly of pieces underneath where
the head is attached that is removed in the improved version., which would allow
the head to bend in even further. This is one of the few cases where I have seen
Lego *remove* parts during a redesign. Usually they are adding to the build to
strengthen such and such.

Anyhow, this involves more than just the rubber bands, and we're going to
have to use Alternates to reflect both versions of the set. I think most of the
parts in question are already in the Extras section, so it may just need a bit
of reorganization.

Here are scans of the 2 versions, which show the parts other than the rubber
bands. If anyone knows of other differences (besides the red rubber bands and
the assembly under the neck), please speak up.

Russell
 


 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Nov 19, 2015 21:37
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8002-1
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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Mortimer writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Mortimer writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8002  Name: Destroyer Droid
* 
8002-1 (Inv) Destroyer Droid
567 Parts, 2000
Sets: Technic: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1

* Add 2 Part x88 Black Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section) (match ID 1)
* Add 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3
* Add 3 Part x37 Red Rubber Belt Medium (Round Cross Section) - Approx. 3 x 3 (Extra)
* Change {4 to 2} Part Black x88 Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section)
* Change {35 to 37} Part Black 32062 Technic, Axle 2 Notched

Comments from Submitter:
After having built main and alternate models from this set (new set), and considering the additional notes regarding alternate red rubber bands.

Does your copy of instructions differ at all from the ones published online at
Brickfactory or Lego Customer Service?

Russell

Hi,

My copy looks to be the same as the one at Brickfactory.

So this set seems to contain either:
- 4x Black x88 or
- 2x Black x88 and 2x Red X37

Hence the inventory change request.

Frédéric

Without having done a complete study, your proposition regarding rubber bands
seems correct. Apparently, for the ball to open up to become a fighting machine,
the head has to move toward the inside slightly. The larger (i.e. weaker) red
rubber bands help that, and also there is an assembly of pieces underneath where
the head is attached that is removed in the improved version., which would allow
the head to bend in even further. This is one of the few cases where I have seen
Lego *remove* parts during a redesign. Usually they are adding to the build to
strengthen such and such.

Anyhow, this involves more than just the rubber bands, and we're going to
have to use Alternates to reflect both versions of the set. I think most of the
parts in question are already in the Extras section, so it may just need a bit
of reorganization.

Here are scans of the 2 versions, which show the parts other than the rubber
bands. If anyone knows of other differences (besides the red rubber bands and
the assembly under the neck), please speak up.

OK, I have approved all your requests and made adjustments for the non rubber
band parts. Please check to see that your set lines up with the parts in the
Regular Items section.

Also, I noticed that the two smallest types of rubber bands shown in the instructions
are of different thicknesses, and the one currently termed "Extra Small" seems
the same size as (or even larger than) the ones currently termed "Small". Would
you please check the rubber bands that came in your set? The instruction pages
are 42 and 46/70.

Russell