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| | | Author: | Brick.Door  | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 12:42 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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| | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 13:12 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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As I see this part isn't in any minifigure and there are minifigs with this
part.
Example
in set
So inventory of this minifig is correct
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| | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 14:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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The general conscensus is to not add the pouch to figs, known in 28 sets and
4 gear, but not known in any fig...
http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=61976#T=C
Doesn't mean some people don't agree with you, but changing it now would
cause a bigger mess as plenty of figs would need to be resubmitted and the existing
ones would need to be marked for deletion... Inventories would need to be adapted...
And then the next one will be
Same deal...
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| | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 15:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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| | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 15:46 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 16:38 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
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There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | maggiec | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 22:57 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
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There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
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We've added a few words to the guidelines in the Help topic to clarify why
the messenger bag is not included. But yes, as you say, we need to consider
reality. It is why they are called Guidelines for adding items to the
Catalog.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 00:47 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, maggiec writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
|
There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
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We've added a few words to the guidelines in the Help topic to clarify why
the messenger bag is not included. But yes, as you say, we need to consider
reality. It is why they are called Guidelines for adding items to the
Catalog.
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This consideration of "reality" is what got us into some of the truly huge messes
we are now faced with in the catalog system. Exception piled on top of exception,
corner after corner being cut. The real problem the site faces in regards to
the minfig is the constant undertow from Lego themselves as to what defines the
special assemblies in their sets.
Regardless of the practical intentions reflected in the BL guidelines, whenever
we deviate from the guidance Lego has already provided (i.e. the instructions)
we need to have solid reasons for doing so. When I see the current exceptions
being made for minifigs, I don't see reasons. I see a *tendency* to reduce,
a *tendency* towards simpler assemblies, a *tendency* to cut away as much extraneous
material as possible.
At the same time, I am noticing increasingly complex designs coming from Lego,
and I wonder why our site is going in the opposite direction. As each year goes
by, it seems harder and harder to justify some of the practices we now cling
to.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 00:54 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 00:56 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, maggiec writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
|
There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
|
We've added a few words to the guidelines in the Help topic to clarify why
the messenger bag is not included. But yes, as you say, we need to consider
reality. It is why they are called Guidelines for adding items to the
Catalog.
|
This consideration of "reality" is what got us into some of the truly huge messes
we are now faced with in the catalog system. Exception piled on top of exception,
corner after corner being cut. The real problem the site faces in regards to
the minfig is the constant undertow from Lego themselves as to what defines the
special assemblies in their sets.
Regardless of the practical intentions reflected in the BL guidelines, whenever
we deviate from the guidance Lego has already provided (i.e. the instructions)
we need to have solid reasons for doing so. When I see the current exceptions
being made for minifigs, I don't see reasons. I see a *tendency* to reduce,
a *tendency* towards simpler assemblies, a *tendency* to cut away as much extraneous
material as possible.
At the same time, I am noticing increasingly complex designs coming from Lego,
and I wonder why our site is going in the opposite direction. As each year goes
by, it seems harder and harder to justify some of the practices we now cling
to.
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BTW this discussion about minifig assembly rules
Why this minifig function here
it has hand accessories which are easily removable, it break policy cited here
in bricklink guidance.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 06:51 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, maggiec writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
|
Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
|
There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
|
We've added a few words to the guidelines in the Help topic to clarify why
the messenger bag is not included. But yes, as you say, we need to consider
reality. It is why they are called Guidelines for adding items to the
Catalog.
|
This consideration of "reality" is what got us into some of the truly huge messes
we are now faced with in the catalog system. Exception piled on top of exception,
corner after corner being cut. The real problem the site faces in regards to
the minfig is the constant undertow from Lego themselves as to what defines the
special assemblies in their sets.
Regardless of the practical intentions reflected in the BL guidelines, whenever
we deviate from the guidance Lego has already provided (i.e. the instructions)
we need to have solid reasons for doing so. When I see the current exceptions
being made for minifigs, I don't see reasons. I see a *tendency* to reduce,
a *tendency* towards simpler assemblies, a *tendency* to cut away as much extraneous
material as possible.
At the same time, I am noticing increasingly complex designs coming from Lego,
and I wonder why our site is going in the opposite direction. As each year goes
by, it seems harder and harder to justify some of the practices we now cling
to.
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Well said.
In addition, if you have to remove the head to add an (not hand held) accessory,
that is shown in the assembly instructions, then personally I consider it to
be part of the minifigure assembly.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
|
Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
|
There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
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Is it worth it for a flower in the hair, or a pair of flippers, or a solid
stud head? And what if there is 30 years between the sets in question? Does that
make a difference?
What if the fig with the bag was in a set where the fig was a mail carrier, and
the fig without the bag was in a soccer set? Should that make a difference?
I understand the fascination of seeing a given fig in as many sets as possible
- it's like looking for the cross strands in a piece of woven fabric. And
there are many, many instances where figs were intended to be the same, and there
isn't a whit of a difference from one set to another, hence the little "New"
signs seen on Star Wars boxes - this implies that those without that marking
were used in another set.
But at the same time, minfigs are a collector's item, and at some point what
is seen as "efficiency" by some starts to look like "cheapness" to others. Is
the site bursting its virtual seams to the extent that we can't afford more
entries than we positively must have? I hardly think so.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | goldknight | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2015 23:50 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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| | | | | | Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
|
There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
|
Is it worth it for a flower in the hair, or a pair of flippers, or a solid
stud head? And what if there is 30 years between the sets in question? Does that
make a difference?
What if the fig with the bag was in a set where the fig was a mail carrier, and
the fig without the bag was in a soccer set? Should that make a difference?
I understand the fascination of seeing a given fig in as many sets as possible
- it's like looking for the cross strands in a piece of woven fabric. And
there are many, many instances where figs were intended to be the same, and there
isn't a whit of a difference from one set to another, hence the little "New"
signs seen on Star Wars boxes - this implies that those without that marking
were used in another set.
But at the same time, minfigs are a collector's item, and at some point what
is seen as "efficiency" by some starts to look like "cheapness" to others. Is
the site bursting its virtual seams to the extent that we can't afford more
entries than we positively must have? I hardly think so.
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Well what about the two minifigs that do not have SW numbers --Aldar and
sebulba. I know this has been talked about before but my god man please assign
them SW numbers--it's the right thing to do Russel
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 00:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | | Well what about the two minifigs that do not have SW numbers --Aldar and
sebulba. I know this has been talked about before but my god man please assign
them SW numbers--it's the right thing to do Russel
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Yes, I vote yes
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | goldknight | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 01:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | | | Well what about the two minifigs that do not have SW numbers --Aldar and
sebulba. I know this has been talked about before but my god man please assign
them SW numbers--it's the right thing to do Russel
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Yes, I vote yes
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Thank you bug guy. That means a lot because I know from talking to you in the
past that you like things in some classified order as I do.--you more so
I would bet due to your type of career. You have helped out bricklink a lot over
the years as I see your name over and over to straighten things out. I wish
admin would side with us on this
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 05:38 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
|
Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
|
There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
|
Is it worth it for a flower in the hair, or a pair of flippers, or a solid
stud head? And what if there is 30 years between the sets in question? Does that
make a difference?
What if the fig with the bag was in a set where the fig was a mail carrier, and
the fig without the bag was in a soccer set? Should that make a difference?
I understand the fascination of seeing a given fig in as many sets as possible
- it's like looking for the cross strands in a piece of woven fabric. And
there are many, many instances where figs were intended to be the same, and there
isn't a whit of a difference from one set to another, hence the little "New"
signs seen on Star Wars boxes - this implies that those without that marking
were used in another set.
But at the same time, minfigs are a collector's item, and at some point what
is seen as "efficiency" by some starts to look like "cheapness" to others. Is
the site bursting its virtual seams to the extent that we can't afford more
entries than we positively must have? I hardly think so.
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There are also minifigs like these that have duplicates except for an accessory...
[m=idea004i]
[m=idea004]
It's not clear to me whether collectors consider them the same or different.
Personally, I like that a seller has the freedom to list either the plain minifig
or the minifig with the proton pack attached.
Then this guy [m=sw471]
He has a (pointless) technic pin on his back. Of course, it is pointless to minifig
collectors, but useful to anyone that wants the play feature in the set. I've
sold a few of them, and one buyer even told me not to bother including the neck
bracket. Yet if it is left off, then strictly it is not a complete minifig. I
doubt many collectors display him with the technic pin attached.
I wonder why the GB minifigs can have two variants with neck attachments, but
Yoda only gets one.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2015 06:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw677 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, mabccc writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Brick.Door writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory: [M=sw677]
* Add 1 Part 61976 Reddish Brown Minifig, Utensil Bag Messenger Pouch
Comments from Submitter:
Shown in instructions wearing the bag - it should be included in the minifig inventory.
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Sometimes I wonder why official instructions are mentioned at all in the Help
sections for minifigs. They are not adhered to, and it's frustrating to see
exception after exception being made for what seem to be personal preferences.
One of the big tasks I see in the future of the catalog is to come up with policies
that are simple and easy for people to grasp, where someone doesn't post
a request like this with confidence that they are right according to the rules,
and then end up with a rejection.
Russell
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Sometimes also minifgs (there are some examples in SW) are shown diffrent on
the box and in instruction (cape vs. hair for example). So in few cases instruction
policy was helpful do determine what configuration of minifig add.
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There is also the complications that if the figure comes in two sets, one with
bag and one without, is it really worth the extra catalogue item for a bag? Strictly
yes, but in reality?
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Is it worth it for a flower in the hair, or a pair of flippers, or a solid
stud head? And what if there is 30 years between the sets in question? Does that
make a difference?
What if the fig with the bag was in a set where the fig was a mail carrier, and
the fig without the bag was in a soccer set? Should that make a difference?
I understand the fascination of seeing a given fig in as many sets as possible
- it's like looking for the cross strands in a piece of woven fabric. And
there are many, many instances where figs were intended to be the same, and there
isn't a whit of a difference from one set to another, hence the little "New"
signs seen on Star Wars boxes - this implies that those without that marking
were used in another set.
But at the same time, minfigs are a collector's item, and at some point what
is seen as "efficiency" by some starts to look like "cheapness" to others. Is
the site bursting its virtual seams to the extent that we can't afford more
entries than we positively must have? I hardly think so.
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There are also minifigs like these that have duplicates except for an accessory...
[m=idea004i]
[m=idea004]
It's not clear to me whether collectors consider them the same or different.
Personally, I like that a seller has the freedom to list either the plain minifig
or the minifig with the proton pack attached.
Then this guy [m=sw471]
He has a (pointless) technic pin on his back. Of course, it is pointless to minifig
collectors, but useful to anyone that wants the play feature in the set. I've
sold a few of them, and one buyer even told me not to bother including the neck
bracket. Yet if it is left off, then strictly it is not a complete minifig. I
doubt many collectors display him with the technic pin attached.
I wonder why the GB minifigs can have two variants with neck attachments, but
Yoda only gets one.
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This is the kind of thing that happens when using "guidelines" instead of "rules"
- a lot of questions with no way to answer them.
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