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 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Sep 5, 2015 02:33
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6345-1
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RobErNat (2805)

Location:  Belgium, Flemish Brabant
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6345  Name: Aerial Acrobats
* 
6345-1 (Inv) Aerial Acrobats
313 Parts, 6 Minifigs, 1993
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Airport

* Change 1 Part Red {3942b Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud to 3942c Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Completely Open Stud}

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 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Sep 5, 2015 09:48
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6345-1
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viejos (627)

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In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6345  Name: Aerial Acrobats
* 
6345-1 (Inv) Aerial Acrobats
313 Parts, 6 Minifigs, 1993
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Airport

* Change 1 Part Red {3942b Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud to 3942c Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Completely Open Stud}

Comments from Submitter:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=938577

Thanks for helping this fellow out.

I was looking at these cones last night to see what should be done with this
inventory, and it looks like another mess to be untangled. One question I had
- is it possible to fit the boat mast into a hollow stud (not open)? Is it stable?
From the large image, it looks as though the boat mast has a rounded end:
 
Part No: 476  Name: Bar  12L with Open Stud, Towball, and Slit (Boat Mast)
* 
476 Bar 12L with Open Stud, Towball, and Slit (Boat Mast)
Parts: Bar
..but of course we get into trouble very fast with CAD images. If you have one
of these parts, could you test it?

The other thing is the problem with the printed cones. The "other" version is
this:
 
Part No: 3942p1  Name: Cone 2 x 2 x 2 with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
* 
3942p1 Cone 2 x 2 x 2 with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
Parts: Cone, Decorated
...which strictly speaking has an undetermined stud type. This part occurs from
1985 to 1998, but the B type occurs from 1990 to 1993, right in the middle:
 
Part No: 3942bpb01  Name: Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
* 
3942bpb01 Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
Parts: Cone, Decorated

Something doesn't add up in all of this. Any enlightenment would be appreciated.
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Sep 10, 2015 14:24
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6345-1
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RobErNat (2805)

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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6345  Name: Aerial Acrobats
* 
6345-1 (Inv) Aerial Acrobats
313 Parts, 6 Minifigs, 1993
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Airport

* Change 1 Part Red {3942b Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud to 3942c Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Completely Open Stud}

Comments from Submitter:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=938577

Thanks for helping this fellow out.

I was looking at these cones last night to see what should be done with this
inventory, and it looks like another mess to be untangled. One question I had
- is it possible to fit the boat mast into a hollow stud (not open)? Is it stable?
From the large image, it looks as though the boat mast has a rounded end:
 
Part No: 476  Name: Bar  12L with Open Stud, Towball, and Slit (Boat Mast)
* 
476 Bar 12L with Open Stud, Towball, and Slit (Boat Mast)
Parts: Bar
..but of course we get into trouble very fast with CAD images. If you have one
of these parts, could you test it?

Did not need to test it to help out the OP of the request, because I know a 3957
doesn't hold in a blocked or recessed stud. The boatmast is worse as it has
a splitted top, so even if it would fit in, the splitted top would certainly
not hold in tight.
But as you asked so kindly, I still tested it, no way this could work, the rounded
top is higher (and similar to the 3957 top) then the stud depth...

  
The other thing is the problem with the printed cones. The "other" version is
this:
 
Part No: 3942p1  Name: Cone 2 x 2 x 2 with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
* 
3942p1 Cone 2 x 2 x 2 with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
Parts: Cone, Decorated
...which strictly speaking has an undetermined stud type. This part occurs from
1985 to 1998, but the B type occurs from 1990 to 1993, right in the middle:
 
Part No: 3942bpb01  Name: Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
* 
3942bpb01 Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
Parts: Cone, Decorated

Something doesn't add up in all of this. Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Yep, reason I stated this when replying the OP:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=938623
It is something I'll be looking into when I get the chance, but as I've
stated before (as with the Vestas set that I didn't manage to dig up), this
is going in my to do book (it used to be a list, I had to upgrade to a book)
with no deadline, as most of my persoanl stuff is packed...
I do assume there is a catch with current entries, one option is to contact sellers
who are selling used sets (or used parts) to find out if an 'open' stud
exists with those stripes, the first step would be to have it added in catalog
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Sep 10, 2015 14:43
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6345-1
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In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6345  Name: Aerial Acrobats
* 
6345-1 (Inv) Aerial Acrobats
313 Parts, 6 Minifigs, 1993
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Airport

* Change 1 Part Red {3942b Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud to 3942c Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Completely Open Stud}

Comments from Submitter:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=938577

Thanks for helping this fellow out.

I was looking at these cones last night to see what should be done with this
inventory, and it looks like another mess to be untangled. One question I had
- is it possible to fit the boat mast into a hollow stud (not open)? Is it stable?
From the large image, it looks as though the boat mast has a rounded end:
 
Part No: 476  Name: Bar  12L with Open Stud, Towball, and Slit (Boat Mast)
* 
476 Bar 12L with Open Stud, Towball, and Slit (Boat Mast)
Parts: Bar
..but of course we get into trouble very fast with CAD images. If you have one
of these parts, could you test it?

Did not need to test it to help out the OP of the request, because I know a 3957
doesn't hold in a blocked or recessed stud. The boatmast is worse as it has
a splitted top, so even if it would fit in, the splitted top would certainly
not hold in tight.
But as you asked so kindly, I still tested it, no way this could work, the rounded
top is higher (and similar to the 3957 top) then the stud depth...

Thanks again for the help - request approved.

  
  The other thing is the problem with the printed cones. The "other" version is
this:
 
Part No: 3942p1  Name: Cone 2 x 2 x 2 with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
* 
3942p1 Cone 2 x 2 x 2 with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
Parts: Cone, Decorated
...which strictly speaking has an undetermined stud type. This part occurs from
1985 to 1998, but the B type occurs from 1990 to 1993, right in the middle:
 
Part No: 3942bpb01  Name: Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
* 
3942bpb01 Cone 2 x 2 x 2 - Blocked Open Stud with Horizontal Red Stripes Pattern
Parts: Cone, Decorated

Something doesn't add up in all of this. Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Yep, reason I stated this when replying the OP:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=938623
It is something I'll be looking into when I get the chance, but as I've
stated before (as with the Vestas set that I didn't manage to dig up), this
is going in my to do book (it used to be a list, I had to upgrade to a book)

I know the feeling...

  with no deadline, as most of my persoanl stuff is packed...
I do assume there is a catch with current entries, one option is to contact sellers
who are selling used sets (or used parts) to find out if an 'open' stud
exists with those stripes, the first step would be to have it added in catalog


Very good - we'll leave it that way for now. The printed nature of the part
would mean that a difference in stud type would be more likely than a non-printed
part, as it seems printed parts hung around longer waiting to get used up. I
may do a bit of hunting myself to see what may be seen.