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| | | Author: | lmeyer  | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 17:13 | | Subject: | On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 147 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| I think regardless of whatever suggestion is for, the numbers of votes for and
against should be shown/made visible.
This will not only show the attitude of the most concerned Bricklink folks (the
ones who are concerned the most for any particular suggestion are the ones that
take the time to vote yes or no), but also the importance of the issue to those
more connected in the goings-on on Bricklink, by noting the totals of votes an
issue receives (an issue getting thousands of votes is more important to the
community than one that gets dozens total).
It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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| | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 17:20 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | I think regardless of whatever suggestion is for, the numbers of votes for and
against should be shown/made visible.
This will not only show the attitude of the most concerned Bricklink folks (the
ones who are concerned the most for any particular suggestion are the ones that
take the time to vote yes or no), but also the importance of the issue to those
more connected in the goings-on on Bricklink, by noting the totals of votes an
issue receives (an issue getting thousands of votes is more important to the
community than one that gets dozens total).
It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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So....we need to bump 3 years of suggestions:
http://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?ID=8&v=c&max=200&status=0
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| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I can't remember what it was, but I think someone said there was a good reason
why those numbers are hidden from general view.
The numbers are available to the people processing the suggestions. That will
not change when the numbers are visible to others also.
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 17:47 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | I think regardless of whatever suggestion is for, the numbers of votes for and
against should be shown/made visible.
This will not only show the attitude of the most concerned Bricklink folks (the
ones who are concerned the most for any particular suggestion are the ones that
take the time to vote yes or no), but also the importance of the issue to those
more connected in the goings-on on Bricklink, by noting the totals of votes an
issue receives (an issue getting thousands of votes is more important to the
community than one that gets dozens total).
It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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They will not do this because the vote is immaterial. They do not implement
members suggestions.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | goshe7 | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 18:38 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | I think regardless of whatever suggestion is for, the numbers of votes for and
against should be shown/made visible.
This will not only show the attitude of the most concerned Bricklink folks (the
ones who are concerned the most for any particular suggestion are the ones that
take the time to vote yes or no), but also the importance of the issue to those
more connected in the goings-on on Bricklink, by noting the totals of votes an
issue receives (an issue getting thousands of votes is more important to the
community than one that gets dozens total).
It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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I vote no... This isn't a democracy and votes are only part of the consideration.
Showing that information would only lead people to treat it more like a democracy,
thinking that a majority of votes or any threshold of votes would make an implementation
"mandatory". We get what we get. We can ask, support, denounce, improve, weaken,
etc. by discussion.
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| | | | | Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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I will not speak for the new owners, but this is exactly why DanJ removed the
vote totals.
Just because a lot of people want something doesn't mean it is possible,
doesn't mean it is easy, doesn't mean it should be done. There are MANY
factors that go in to whether a suggestion gets implemented or not. Votes are
just an indicator to management that they should look at something.
I know DanJ got frustrated with people saying "Suggestion X has 999 yes votes,
why isn't implemented yet?"
Never once considering that the suggestion would take 1,000 man hours to implement,
Or that it would break other aspects of the site.
Or that it was actually impossible to do what they were asking.
Or that is was a stupid suggestion.
Troy
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| | | | | | | Author: | MathBuilder | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 19:11 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | maggiec | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 19:14 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, MathBuilder writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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I will not speak for the new owners, but this is exactly why DanJ removed the
vote totals.
Just because a lot of people want something doesn't mean it is possible,
doesn't mean it is easy, doesn't mean it should be done. There are MANY
factors that go in to whether a suggestion gets implemented or not. Votes are
just an indicator to management that they should look at something.
I know DanJ got frustrated with people saying "Suggestion X has 999 yes votes,
why isn't implemented yet?"
Never once considering that the suggestion would take 1,000 man hours to implement,
Or that it would break other aspects of the site.
Or that it was actually impossible to do what they were asking.
Or that is was a stupid suggestion.
Troy
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Suggestion: Give Mathbuilder $1, then for each person who casts a vote give Mathbuilder
twice the amount that otherwise would receive.
Votes: 1 Yes, 63 No.
Why am I not the owner of the world yet!!!????
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Now *this* has not been posted here before!
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| | | | | | | Author: | maggiec | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 19:12 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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I will not speak for the new owners, but this is exactly why DanJ removed the
vote totals.
Just because a lot of people want something doesn't mean it is possible,
doesn't mean it is easy, doesn't mean it should be done. There are MANY
factors that go in to whether a suggestion gets implemented or not. Votes are
just an indicator to management that they should look at something.
I know DanJ got frustrated with people saying "Suggestion X has 999 yes votes,
why isn't implemented yet?"
Never once considering that the suggestion would take 1,000 man hours to implement,
Or that it would break other aspects of the site.
Or that it was actually impossible to do what they were asking.
Or that is was a stupid suggestion.
Troy
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Yes. Discussed over and over over the years. We really, really, really need
to keep forum posts and not purge them after six months. The sooner this happens
the better. And this could have been a reply to several other posts today.
It has also been mentioned in the past that suggestions were not autopurged like
most other forum posts, but that Dan would go through them at six months to review
them for merit and manually purge the ones that didn't appear would hold
up at that time. This is the reason that there have been all these suggestions
that haven't been acted on beginning in September, 2010.
Maggie
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| | | | | Author: | atrbricks | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 18:55 | | Subject: | Re: On all Suggestions, display # of yes/no votes | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | I think regardless of whatever suggestion is for, the numbers of votes for and
against should be shown/made visible.
This will not only show the attitude of the most concerned Bricklink folks (the
ones who are concerned the most for any particular suggestion are the ones that
take the time to vote yes or no), but also the importance of the issue to those
more connected in the goings-on on Bricklink, by noting the totals of votes an
issue receives (an issue getting thousands of votes is more important to the
community than one that gets dozens total).
It would also be a good measure to see how the Bricklink admins and powers that
be react to issues strongly felt one way or the other to those in the community
at-large here. If they do nothing for an issue felt very strongly by many here,
it's good to know that. Also would be great to see an important community
issue being taken care of quickly because so many folks here deem it important.
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I would vote yes if there was one big distinction. If the votes were visible
to the OP only. Sometimes when there are few comments, or only negative comments,
it is nice to see how those who are not commenting are voting. I think sometimes
the replies can go toward the negative because those who are in favor of the
suggestion don't want the publicity of posting their opinion, which appears
contrary to the general opinion of those who are relying to a suggestion.
As suggested, I doubt it will get implemented, since they will basically be implementing
a tool to give those who frequent the forum more reasons to complain that things
are not getting done. Nothing like handing someone the hammer to hit you with.
Katie
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