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| | | Author: | lmeyer  | | Posted: | Apr 14, 2014 23:24 | | Subject: | permanent bans on buyers:/sellers | | Viewed: | 353 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| For buyers and sellers that continue to rack up negative feedback and nss's
and npb's, who show little indication they are sincerely doing anything to
improve, but just keepcdoung the same BS to people over and over again,
kick these people permanently off bricklink. have a check if any new people
register and it's the address of a permanently banned person, and automatically
shut down that new account.
we can't have people here with 46 negatives and 34 neutrals across the years
pulling obvious scams on people. we e not talking about a group of people targeting
a buyer or seller on purpose to screw with their ratings. we are talking
about people who as a buyer or seller are a continual problem, on purpose and
are gaming buyers, sellers and the brickink system, and it's rubbing off
on the site. just like bad cops make everyone wary of all cops. and to have
bricklink continue to let these known huge problem people operate here despite
what common sense and common business sense would let one believe needs to be
done, it's enabling, to say the least.
we need to get rid of these jokes. they make this place look like it doesn't
care, and if we don't get rid of the most blatant, excessive, deliberate-known
scam artists here, it makes it very hard to say those who think this place doesn't
care, are wrong.
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| | | | | Author: | MathBuilder | | Posted: | Apr 14, 2014 23:38 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | Author: | LEGOMASTER | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 01:41 | | Subject: | Re: permanent bans on buyers:/sellers | | Viewed: | 145 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | For buyers and sellers that continue to rack up negative feedback and nss's
and npb's, who show little indication they are sincerely doing anything to
improve, but just keepcdoung the same BS to people over and over again,
kick these people permanently off bricklink. have a check if any new people
register and it's the address of a permanently banned person, and automatically
shut down that new account.
we can't have people here with 46 negatives and 34 neutrals across the years
pulling obvious scams on people. we e not talking about a group of people targeting
a buyer or seller on purpose to screw with their ratings. we are talking
about people who as a buyer or seller are a continual problem, on purpose and
are gaming buyers, sellers and the brickink system, and it's rubbing off
on the site. just like bad cops make everyone wary of all cops. and to have
bricklink continue to let these known huge problem people operate here despite
what common sense and common business sense would let one believe needs to be
done, it's enabling, to say the least.
we need to get rid of these jokes. they make this place look like it doesn't
care, and if we don't get rid of the most blatant, excessive, deliberate-known
scam artists here, it makes it very hard to say those who think this place doesn't
care, are wrong.
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I vote NO.
No one should start grabbing pitchforks or torch the place. There are other places
to sell LEGO. You will find the same general problems on any other sites. There
is always the option to ignore, walkway and visit another store.
I have seen both GOOD buyers and sellers make mistakes on both sides on this
site. Attacking, insulting and sometimes demanding. Playing the 'card'
DYWIA ..."DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM". Enough. I have been watching and reading
the drama going on FOREVER on different topics and issues. Time to move on...
play and build. If this site... as some people still think it is a 'community'
think again. It use to be. It is a business site... a marketplace.
My take from "Scent of a Woman", how I feel what's happening. AFOLs in the
sandbox.
Jack Stone: Out of order. I'll show YOU "out of order"! You don't know
what "out of order" is, Mr. BL. I'd show you, but I'm too ugly, I'm
too tired, I'm too blind, I'm chewed up by kids. If I was a popular and
big theme, I was fifteen years ago, I'd take a...
[slams his LEGO RED brick on the table] FLAMETHROWER to this place! Out of order?
Who the hell do ya think you're talking to? I've been around, ya know?
There was a time I could build and shoot up in a place like this. And I have
seen. Minifigures and MOC's like these, bigger than these. Their plastic
arms torn out, their legs ripped off. But there is nothing like the sight of
insulting themes spirit like Znap and LEGO Universe. There's no prostetic
for that. You think you're merely sending this splendid minifigure back home
to AFOL's with tail between their plastic legs, but I say you are executing
their plastic SOUL! And why? Because they not part of the LEGO club. BrickLink
players! You are hurting this site, you're gonna be Bricklink bums, the lot
of ya. And Zack, Timmy, Peter, wherever you are, screw you too!
[the student body and the committee are in shock as Galidor anger is further
aggravated]
Mr. BL: [yells; hits the gavel three times] Stand down, Jack Stone!
Jack Stone: I'm not finished! As I came in here, I heard those words, "Cradle
of community". Well, when the bough breaks, the cradle will fall. And it has
fallen here. It has fallen. Makers of buyers, sellers of leaders. Be careful
what kind of marketplace you're producing here. Price fixing, yes or no MRSP,
read the feedback and splash page. I don't know if Galidor silence here today
is right or wrong. I'm not a judge or jury, but I can tell you this: Galidor
won't sell anybody out to buy his future! And that, my friends, is called
integrity. That's called courage. And that's called organization. Now
that's the stuff leadership should be made of. Now, I have come to the crossroads
in my life. I always knew what the right path was. Without exception, I knew.
But I never took it. You know why? It was too damn hard. Now here's Galidor.
He's come to the crossroads. It has chosen a path. It's the right path.
It's a path made of principle that leads to imagination. Let Galidor continue
on their journey. You hold this brand future in your hands, committee. It's
a valuable future. Believe me. Don't destroy it. Protect it. Embrace it.
It's gonna make you proud one day, I promise you.
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| | | | | | | Author: | PBM | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 06:15 | | Subject: | Re: permanent bans on buyers:/sellers | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, LEGOMASTER writes:
| | In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | For buyers and sellers that continue to rack up negative feedback and nss's
and npb's, who show little indication they are sincerely doing anything to
improve, but just keepcdoung the same BS to people over and over again,
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Just a thought here, but when we were open to the public we had an issue.
We had a bad employee who did massive damage to our inventory.
Without my knowledge she mixed all of the same colors from all of the inventory
into big vats over a weekend.
When I arrived on Monday all hell had broken loose.
It almost destroyed us.
I remember at the time people asking for our head, as well as "racking up" effect
that brought the wrath of the forum blasters against me.
Just as a note to the poster of this suggestion, I had a number of people who
wanted us removed from the site for getting 2 negatives in a row!
So while I understand the need to remove someone who has fraud in mind, there
needs to be a balance for when good sellers have major issues!
Also, "over time" is an oddity. I remember in this same forum reading about
a buyer who got 3 NPBs in 10 years and lost their purchasing rights.
As time goes on there will be more of those as well.
Thought should go into the sites reputation as well as the ability to be able
to "grow over time". Example;
A buyer has been on the site for 10+ years. He/she purchases on a regular basis.
Whammo, the buyer is in an auto accident and is offline for a month.
Buyer comes back, has 3 NPBs and loses their ability to purchase. Is this fair?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | lmeyer | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 17:06 | | Subject: | Re: permanent bans on buyers:/sellers | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Clearly with investigation every exception situation you metnion would be shown
not to be a long-term problematic buyer/seller, but ones that had abnormal, unusual
circumstances that are not representative of the norm for those persons'
Bricklinking behavior.
That's exactly why I wrote the very paragraph you highlighted.
In Suggestions, PBM writes:
| | In Suggestions, LEGOMASTER writes:
| | In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | For buyers and sellers that continue to rack up negative feedback and nss's
and npb's, who show little indication they are sincerely doing anything to
improve, but just keepcdoung the same BS to people over and over again,
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Just a thought here, but when we were open to the public we had an issue.
We had a bad employee who did massive damage to our inventory.
Without my knowledge she mixed all of the same colors from all of the inventory
into big vats over a weekend.
When I arrived on Monday all hell had broken loose.
It almost destroyed us.
I remember at the time people asking for our head, as well as "racking up" effect
that brought the wrath of the forum blasters against me.
Just as a note to the poster of this suggestion, I had a number of people who
wanted us removed from the site for getting 2 negatives in a row!
So while I understand the need to remove someone who has fraud in mind, there
needs to be a balance for when good sellers have major issues!
Also, "over time" is an oddity. I remember in this same forum reading about
a buyer who got 3 NPBs in 10 years and lost their purchasing rights.
As time goes on there will be more of those as well.
Thought should go into the sites reputation as well as the ability to be able
to "grow over time". Example;
A buyer has been on the site for 10+ years. He/she purchases on a regular basis.
Whammo, the buyer is in an auto accident and is offline for a month.
Buyer comes back, has 3 NPBs and loses their ability to purchase. Is this fair?
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| | | | | Author: | happygolucky | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 06:30 | | Subject: | Re: permanent bans on buyers:/sellers | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Shut down scammers account: Yes
Shut down bad sellers account: No
At least, feedback will let us know what shops to avoid. Shutting them down means
they will open a new one with fresh feedback and catch unwary buyers all over
again. Even if they get closed down shortly afterwards.
I just do not buy from shops with poor feedbacks even if they are cheaper than
anybody else.
In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | For buyers and sellers that continue to rack up negative feedback and nss's
and npb's, who show little indication they are sincerely doing anything to
improve, but just keepcdoung the same BS to people over and over again,
kick these people permanently off bricklink. have a check if any new people
register and it's the address of a permanently banned person, and automatically
shut down that new account.
we can't have people here with 46 negatives and 34 neutrals across the years
pulling obvious scams on people. we e not talking about a group of people targeting
a buyer or seller on purpose to screw with their ratings. we are talking
about people who as a buyer or seller are a continual problem, on purpose and
are gaming buyers, sellers and the brickink system, and it's rubbing off
on the site. just like bad cops make everyone wary of all cops. and to have
bricklink continue to let these known huge problem people operate here despite
what common sense and common business sense would let one believe needs to be
done, it's enabling, to say the least.
we need to get rid of these jokes. they make this place look like it doesn't
care, and if we don't get rid of the most blatant, excessive, deliberate-known
scam artists here, it makes it very hard to say those who think this place doesn't
care, are wrong.
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| | | | | | | Author: | bb441201 | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 07:33 | | Subject: | Re: permanent bans on buyers:/sellers | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Can't they just ban the IP I know its not hard to change a IP but a lot
of scammers may not think about it.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_424058 | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 12:54 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Apr 15, 2014 14:16 | | Subject: | Re: permanent bans on buyers:/sellers | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| This has been discussed often enough, and in depth enough, that I think the owners
(and admins) know how we feel.
So it is really up to them.
Nothing I say here, or vote here, is likely to have any impact.
In Suggestions, lmeyer writes:
| | For buyers and sellers that continue to rack up negative feedback and nss's
and npb's, who show little indication they are sincerely doing anything to
improve, but just keepcdoung the same BS to people over and over again,
kick these people permanently off bricklink. have a check if any new people
register and it's the address of a permanently banned person, and automatically
shut down that new account.
we can't have people here with 46 negatives and 34 neutrals across the years
pulling obvious scams on people. we e not talking about a group of people targeting
a buyer or seller on purpose to screw with their ratings. we are talking
about people who as a buyer or seller are a continual problem, on purpose and
are gaming buyers, sellers and the brickink system, and it's rubbing off
on the site. just like bad cops make everyone wary of all cops. and to have
bricklink continue to let these known huge problem people operate here despite
what common sense and common business sense would let one believe needs to be
done, it's enabling, to say the least.
we need to get rid of these jokes. they make this place look like it doesn't
care, and if we don't get rid of the most blatant, excessive, deliberate-known
scam artists here, it makes it very hard to say those who think this place doesn't
care, are wrong.
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