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| | | Author: | Hardstone  | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2013 20:37 | | Subject: | Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 252 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| I want to bring up an issue that has bugged or should I say annoyed me for some
time. Now, I am not looking to get in trouble with anyone or offend anyone either,
but I am talking about how the current stoplist system works. With the way the
system currently works, once someone is stoplisted, that's it. The stoplisted
user is permanently cut off. No way to buy and no way to communicate. What recourse
does a stoplisted individual have if he/she feels that getting put on the seller's
stoplist is unwarrented? None at all.
Some of you may say that this is how it should be. So I ask you... why does it
have to be that way...? Not being able to buy aside, what annoys me the most
in the inability to communicate. I confess wholeheartedly that since joining
this website I found myself ending up on a handful of stoplists. Most I admit
were warranted, being the result of my own actions, complaining, whinning, and
just making a fool of myself. I take full responsibility for that, but I also
wish to explain why I was acting like I did at those times.
A lot of you are probably already aware I am making preparations to set up my
own store. I had been and I still am spending all my free time and most of my
available spending cash on those preparations. All of this creates a lot of stress,
and too much stress can lead to panicky and foolish behavior. I admit I've
stumbled a bit, I am human after all. I doubt that there is one person in this
community who hasn't stumbled once or twice in life.
I ask that one small change be made to the stoplist system. Make it so a stoplisted
user can still communicate via PM with the seller who stoplisted him/her. If
those of us who have been stoplisted wish to negotiate terms for removal from
the list so to speak, let us at least still have that option.
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| | | | | Author: | McBricks | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2013 20:55 | | Subject: | Re: Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Ahmed writes:
| | I want to bring up an issue that has bugged or should I say annoyed me for some
time. Now, I am not looking to get in trouble with anyone or offend anyone either,
but I am talking about how the current stoplist system works. With the way the
system currently works, once someone is stoplisted, that's it. The stoplisted
user is permanently cut off. No way to buy and no way to communicate. What recourse
does a stoplisted individual have if he/she feels that getting put on the seller's
stoplist is unwarrented? None at all.
Some of you may say that this is how it should be. So I ask you... why does it
have to be that way...? Not being able to buy aside, what annoys me the most
in the inability to communicate. I confess wholeheartedly that since joining
this website I found myself ending up on a handful of stoplists. Most I admit
were warranted, being the result of my own actions, complaining, whinning, and
just making a fool of myself. I take full responsibility for that, but I also
wish to explain why I was acting like I did at those times.
A lot of you are probably already aware I am making preparations to set up my
own store. I had been and I still am spending all my free time and most of my
available spending cash on those preparations. All of this creates a lot of stress,
and too much stress can lead to panicky and foolish behavior. I admit I've
stumbled a bit, I am human after all. I doubt that there is one person in this
community who hasn't stumbled once or twice in life.
I ask that one small change be made to the stoplist system. Make it so a stoplisted
user can still communicate via PM with the seller who stoplisted him/her. If
those of us who have been stoplisted wish to negotiate terms for removal from
the list so to speak, let us at least still have that option.
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Can't stop listed buyers just use your regular email to get in contact with
you. It's on all of the invoices that you have sent. You can also get ahold
of them this way. I choose to leave them alone. I blocked them for a reason.
Hope this helps, James
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| | | | | | | Author: | kzinti | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2013 06:59 | | Subject: | Re: Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Can't stop listed buyers just use your regular email to get in contact with
you. It's on all of the invoices that you have sent. You can also get a hold
of them this way. I choose to leave them alone. I blocked them for a reason.
Hope this helps, James
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What of those who post in the forum and get blocked by Sellers? They have no
way to find out why they were blocked. Some Sellers, like scottrich, have wholesale
blocked everyone who posted on certain forum posts, regardless of what their
comments were. No rhyme or reason, no further communication.
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| | | | | Author: | goshe7 | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2013 21:26 | | Subject: | Re: Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Ahmed writes:
| | I want to bring up an issue that has bugged or should I say annoyed me for some
time. Now, I am not looking to get in trouble with anyone or offend anyone either,
but I am talking about how the current stoplist system works. With the way the
system currently works, once someone is stoplisted, that's it. The stoplisted
user is permanently cut off. No way to buy and no way to communicate. What recourse
does a stoplisted individual have if he/she feels that getting put on the seller's
stoplist is unwarrented? None at all.
Some of you may say that this is how it should be. So I ask you... why does it
have to be that way...? Not being able to buy aside, what annoys me the most
in the inability to communicate.
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You say "communicate". Others might say "bother", "badger", "hassle", "argue",
etc.
| | I confess wholeheartedly that since joining
this website I found myself ending up on a handful of stoplists. Most I admit
were warranted, being the result of my own actions, complaining, whinning, and
just making a fool of myself. I take full responsibility for that, but I also
wish to explain why I was acting like I did at those times.
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I give the bulk of my judgments based on actions. At the end of the day, that
is what counts. Words/explanations/excuses are very transient in nature and
many people will say whatever it takes to get what they want. Actions are, in
my opinion, a more accurate characterization of one's personality and behavior.
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I ask that one small change be made to the stoplist system. Make it so a stoplisted
user can still communicate via PM with the seller who stoplisted him/her. If
those of us who have been stoplisted wish to negotiate terms for removal from
the list so to speak, let us at least still have that option.
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NO! (Yes, I am shouting  )
1. Stop lists are primarily a means of limiting transactions, but by their nature
they have been used to filter out unwanted communications as well
2. If a seller is frivolous with his stoplisting, he deserves the lost sales
he encounters. If he is prudent with his stoplisting, he should be rather resolute
in his decisions and "negotiations" are unlikely to progress to a different state.
Here are some of my stoplist reasons. The evidence is either firsthand experience
or forum posts from sellers I respect. Which one of these do you think I should
be willing to "negotiate"?
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Claims pkgs never rec'd. Repeat scammer.
Numerous NPB and Slow Pays (7/4/11)
Chargeback after non-receipt of uninsured packages
PayPal Chargebacks and FB Abuse
swapped figs and demanded refund
PP Chargebacks. Lots of 'em
multiple order cancellations
sleazy, shady, and otherwise bad
Multiple NSS, likely false
PayPal Chargeback 1 Month after positive FB
Bogus refund claim
overcharged shipping and refused to correct. Sleazy
Insulted seller then cancelled posts to hide. Bleah
declined insurance - PayPal chargeback
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| | | | | Author: | Rolex_Bricks | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2013 02:17 | | Subject: | Re: Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Ahmed writes:
| | I want to bring up an issue that has bugged or should I say annoyed me for some
time. Now, I am not looking to get in trouble with anyone or offend anyone either,
but I am talking about how the current stoplist system works. With the way the
system currently works, once someone is stoplisted, that's it. The stoplisted
user is permanently cut off. No way to buy and no way to communicate. What recourse
does a stoplisted individual have if he/she feels that getting put on the seller's
stoplist is unwarrented? None at all.
Some of you may say that this is how it should be. So I ask you... why does it
have to be that way...? Not being able to buy aside, what annoys me the most
in the inability to communicate. I confess wholeheartedly that since joining
this website I found myself ending up on a handful of stoplists. Most I admit
were warranted, being the result of my own actions, complaining, whinning, and
just making a fool of myself. I take full responsibility for that, but I also
wish to explain why I was acting like I did at those times.
A lot of you are probably already aware I am making preparations to set up my
own store. I had been and I still am spending all my free time and most of my
available spending cash on those preparations. All of this creates a lot of stress,
and too much stress can lead to panicky and foolish behavior. I admit I've
stumbled a bit, I am human after all. I doubt that there is one person in this
community who hasn't stumbled once or twice in life.
I ask that one small change be made to the stoplist system. Make it so a stoplisted
user can still communicate via PM with the seller who stoplisted him/her. If
those of us who have been stoplisted wish to negotiate terms for removal from
the list so to speak, let us at least still have that option.
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Stoplisted members are not allowed to communicate with the ones who stoplisted
them because that causes nothing but problems.
Stoplisting is done because of a negative, or perceived negative, action by
one or both of the parties involved. Where there is negativity there are negative
feelings. Negative feelings usually result in more negative actions. Especially
because nobody likes to be stoplisted.
If someone stoplists you for no good reason, why would you want to deal with
them again anyway?
Opening those lines of communication is a bad idea.
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| | | | | Author: | kzinti | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2013 07:03 | | Subject: | Re: Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I have advocated for a sort of Stoplist Amnesty Day, whereby everyone would take
a second look at their lists and see if anyone is deserving of a second chance.
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| | | | | Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2013 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 115 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Ahmed writes:
| | I ask that one small change be made to the stoplist system. Make it so a stoplisted
user can still communicate via PM with the seller who stoplisted him/her. If
those of us who have been stoplisted wish to negotiate terms for removal from
the list so to speak, let us at least still have that option.
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Sorry, but NO!
If I put someone on my stoplist they are there for reasons that I deem valid
and are not likely to be removed. The last thing that I want is to have these
people contacting me.
You say "Negotiate" but what this really leads to is harassment and name calling.
Troy
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| | | | | | | Author: | RoseCityBricks | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2013 18:24 | | Subject: | Re: Keep the communication lines open... | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I have been stoplisted by 3 sellers who I have never dealt with. Never had a
bad experience here and have never left or received negative feedback. Very odd.
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