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| | Author: | Made_In_Bricks | Posted: | May 10, 2012 08:02 | Subject: | Names on Bricklink account | Viewed: | 317 times | Topic: | Suggestions | Status: | Open | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| This has happened to me a few times and it is starting to get annoying but...
It has been a few years since I have registered. So I don't remember what it
says, but I have been getting orders from people that have been putting fake
names, nick names, etc, on their account here. It causes a problem for a few
reasons. 1) If an order is a contract, I believe it would be null and void if
the person's name is not on it and some screen-name or other alias. 2) It can
make it hard to track down whose order is whose when you have two fake names
on orders (for the same amount) and they don't put the order numbers in the payment.
I know some people have company names on their account and I am ok with that
because if it is an LLC here in the US that company can enter into contracts
under the LLC, but if I registered with the First name "Baddest Dude" and the
Last name "On The Planet" how would anything on here actually be binding.
I don't want to cause work for admin, because more important things are being
taken care of, but I would like to know what others think.
Thanks
Ken
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| | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | Posted: | May 10, 2012 08:09 | Subject: | Re: Names on Bricklink account | Viewed: | 84 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, kanownik writes:
| This has happened to me a few times and it is starting to get annoying but...
It has been a few years since I have registered. So I don't remember what it
says, but I have been getting orders from people that have been putting fake
names, nick names, etc, on their account here. It causes a problem for a few
reasons. 1) If an order is a contract, I believe it would be null and void if
the person's name is not on it and some screen-name or other alias. 2) It can
make it hard to track down whose order is whose when you have two fake names
on orders (for the same amount) and they don't put the order numbers in the payment.
I know some people have company names on their account and I am ok with that
because if it is an LLC here in the US that company can enter into contracts
under the LLC, but if I registered with the First name "Baddest Dude" and the
Last name "On The Planet" how would anything on here actually be binding.
I don't want to cause work for admin, because more important things are being
taken care of, but I would like to know what others think.
Thanks
Ken
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We see a lot of that but have always thought that it is largely for privacy/fear
of personal details being misused. Once the payment comes through we check that
the shipping addresses match (if not we contact the customer) and that gives
us the real name of the person. I agree with you that it sometimes creates a
bit of extra work matching payment to order but as we don't get hundreds of orders
and payments every day it does not really cause us any problems.
Robert
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| | | | Author: | pumbaugh | Posted: | May 10, 2012 08:37 | Subject: | Re: Names on Bricklink account | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| No real input from me....just an out loud chuckle for your name example... |
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| | | | Author: | Justinqsmommy | Posted: | May 10, 2012 08:42 | Subject: | Re: Names on Bricklink account | Viewed: | 64 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, kanownik writes:
| This has happened to me a few times and it is starting to get annoying but...
It has been a few years since I have registered. So I don't remember what it
says, but I have been getting orders from people that have been putting fake
names, nick names, etc, on their account here. It causes a problem for a few
reasons. 1) If an order is a contract, I believe it would be null and void if
the person's name is not on it and some screen-name or other alias. 2) It can
make it hard to track down whose order is whose when you have two fake names
on orders (for the same amount) and they don't put the order numbers in the payment.
I know some people have company names on their account and I am ok with that
because if it is an LLC here in the US that company can enter into contracts
under the LLC, but if I registered with the First name "Baddest Dude" and the
Last name "On The Planet" how would anything on here actually be binding.
I don't want to cause work for admin, because more important things are being
taken care of, but I would like to know what others think.
Thanks
Ken
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Names aren't really a problem for me, alias' are fine for a contract as long
as it's not for illegal reasons. I really have a problem with the Paypal and
Bricklink mailing addresses not matching. The extra emails, followup and sometimes
hand holding to explain how to add an address to Paypal. Sometimes it not worth
the trouble for a $2.00 order.
Donna
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| | | | Author: | aftepes | Posted: | May 10, 2012 08:54 | Subject: | Re: Names on Bricklink account | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, kanownik writes:
| This has happened to me a few times and it is starting to get annoying but...
It has been a few years since I have registered. So I don't remember what it
says, but I have been getting orders from people that have been putting fake
names, nick names, etc, on their account here. It causes a problem for a few
reasons. 1) If an order is a contract, I believe it would be null and void if
the person's name is not on it and some screen-name or other alias. 2) It can
make it hard to track down whose order is whose when you have two fake names
on orders (for the same amount) and they don't put the order numbers in the payment.
I know some people have company names on their account and I am ok with that
because if it is an LLC here in the US that company can enter into contracts
under the LLC, but if I registered with the First name "Baddest Dude" and the
Last name "On The Planet" how would anything on here actually be binding.
I don't want to cause work for admin, because more important things are being
taken care of, but I would like to know what others think.
Thanks
Ken
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Taken from the TOS, item 1): "You agree to provide accurate, current, and complete
information about you and/or your business, and you agree to maintain and promptly
update all information about you and/or your business."
So if you falsify your name on your account when you register, I would argue
that your account should be suspended. I also went into my account and tried
to change the name I'm registered with and couldn't update it (a good thing from
one perspective, but if you legally change your name, could be a problem).
The way I would deal with this, if it happened to me, would be to report the
member in question. However, there is no applicable issue under the Problem with
Member page. If there is a "solution" to your suggestion, I would ask that that
update be made, strictly for clarity's sake. (I suspect if you picked the member
is underage and added the name issue in the description portion the appropriate
mods would take care of it.)
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| | | | Author: | mnementh | Posted: | May 10, 2012 09:23 | Subject: | Re: Names on Bricklink account | Viewed: | 113 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, kanownik writes:
| I don't want to cause work for admin, because more important things are being
taken care of, but I would like to know what others think.
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A real name or company name is already required. If you receive an order with
incomplete information you can report it to Admin and he will have them correct
it. I have had to do this in the past for members that do not include addresses.
Troy
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| | | | Author: | Cyberclark | Posted: | May 10, 2012 10:01 | Subject: | Re: Names on Bricklink account | Viewed: | 85 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I got one like this the other day. Bricklink name on account was Unique Dunkin
and paypal name which generates my shipping labels and what not was Mike Legolover.
Transaction went fine, but it had me worried at first.
And now that I have been hit by a chargeback on another order for what they say
was an unauthorized purchase it makes me worry even more on these accounts where
the Bricklink and Paypal names don't match. In such cases I would think they
could always say ' I didn't authorize that payment" And when you send the invoice
as proof sure enough they could say see that isn't my name on the invoice. We
always say the invoice is a legally binding contract right? But if the name
is fake, then how is that a binding contract?
In Suggestions, kanownik writes:
| This has happened to me a few times and it is starting to get annoying but...
It has been a few years since I have registered. So I don't remember what it
says, but I have been getting orders from people that have been putting fake
names, nick names, etc, on their account here. It causes a problem for a few
reasons. 1) If an order is a contract, I believe it would be null and void if
the person's name is not on it and some screen-name or other alias. 2) It can
make it hard to track down whose order is whose when you have two fake names
on orders (for the same amount) and they don't put the order numbers in the payment.
I know some people have company names on their account and I am ok with that
because if it is an LLC here in the US that company can enter into contracts
under the LLC, but if I registered with the First name "Baddest Dude" and the
Last name "On The Planet" how would anything on here actually be binding.
I don't want to cause work for admin, because more important things are being
taken care of, but I would like to know what others think.
Thanks
Ken
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| | | | | | Author: | Cyberclark | Posted: | May 10, 2012 12:30 | Subject: | (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
Why was this canceled? Would it be too much for a moderator to send a simple
message informing us why our posts our canceled so at least we learn from it
and don't do it again?
I am assuming it is because someone felt I posted a users name in a post? But
I did not post any real name. I posted two obviously fictional alias's. Which
as the original topic talks about should be disallowed as the orders are supposed
to be legally binding contracts, but obviously you can't have anything legal
and binding if it isn't a legal name to begin with.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | Posted: | May 10, 2012 13:03 | Subject: | Re: (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
Why was this canceled? Would it be too much for a moderator to send a simple
message informing us why our posts our canceled so at least we learn from it
and don't do it again?
I am assuming it is because someone felt I posted a users name in a post? But
I did not post any real name. I posted two obviously fictional alias's. Which
as the original topic talks about should be disallowed as the orders are supposed
to be legally binding contracts, but obviously you can't have anything legal
and binding if it isn't a legal name to begin with.
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I would be nice to have the censor do this. The reason would let others know
what not to do. Also if someone is responsible for censoring a post they should
be man or woman enough to put their name on it.
If you do it, claim it.
John P
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| | | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | Posted: | May 10, 2012 13:30 | Subject: | Re: (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
Why was this canceled? Would it be too much for a moderator to send a simple
message informing us why our posts our canceled so at least we learn from it
and don't do it again?
I am assuming it is because someone felt I posted a users name in a post? But
I did not post any real name. I posted two obviously fictional alias's. Which
as the original topic talks about should be disallowed as the orders are supposed
to be legally binding contracts, but obviously you can't have anything legal
and binding if it isn't a legal name to begin with.
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It was not "obvious" to me or to the members that submitted complaints that you
used personal info in the forum. If you like to answer my pm, I am sure we can
resolve this quickly.
Darren
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | DadsAFOL | Posted: | May 10, 2012 13:44 | Subject: | Re: (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 64 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
Why was this canceled? Would it be too much for a moderator to send a simple
message informing us why our posts our canceled so at least we learn from it
and don't do it again?
I am assuming it is because someone felt I posted a users name in a post? But
I did not post any real name. I posted two obviously fictional alias's. Which
as the original topic talks about should be disallowed as the orders are supposed
to be legally binding contracts, but obviously you can't have anything legal
and binding if it isn't a legal name to begin with.
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It was not "obvious" to me or to the members that submitted complaints that you
used personal info in the forum. If you like to answer my pm, I am sure we can
resolve this quickly.
Darren
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@Cyberclark I believe one of the names you posted, while unusual, may not acually
be fake. I've sold to that individual before. You assumed that the name was
a fake and posted it. But having worked for years in an industry where I see
many people's names, I have long since abandoned all hope in American parents'
abilities to name their children.
-Jason
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rikitikitaviguy | Posted: | May 10, 2012 14:26 | Subject: | Re: (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Exactly....most of you think LegoMongoose is just a name I use on the Internet
forums....well....
LM
In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
Why was this canceled? Would it be too much for a moderator to send a simple
message informing us why our posts our canceled so at least we learn from it
and don't do it again?
I am assuming it is because someone felt I posted a users name in a post? But
I did not post any real name. I posted two obviously fictional alias's. Which
as the original topic talks about should be disallowed as the orders are supposed
to be legally binding contracts, but obviously you can't have anything legal
and binding if it isn't a legal name to begin with.
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It was not "obvious" to me or to the members that submitted complaints that you
used personal info in the forum. If you like to answer my pm, I am sure we can
resolve this quickly.
Darren
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@Cyberclark I believe one of the names you posted, while unusual, may not acually
be fake. I've sold to that individual before. You assumed that the name was
a fake and posted it. But having worked for years in an industry where I see
many people's names, I have long since abandoned all hope in American parents'
abilities to name their children.
-Jason
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Cyberclark | Posted: | May 10, 2012 14:43 | Subject: | Re: (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 61 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DadsAFOL writes:
| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
Why was this canceled? Would it be too much for a moderator to send a simple
message informing us why our posts our canceled so at least we learn from it
and don't do it again?
I am assuming it is because someone felt I posted a users name in a post? But
I did not post any real name. I posted two obviously fictional alias's. Which
as the original topic talks about should be disallowed as the orders are supposed
to be legally binding contracts, but obviously you can't have anything legal
and binding if it isn't a legal name to begin with.
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It was not "obvious" to me or to the members that submitted complaints that you
used personal info in the forum. If you like to answer my pm, I am sure we can
resolve this quickly.
Darren
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@Cyberclark I believe one of the names you posted, while unusual, may not acually
be fake. I've sold to that individual before. You assumed that the name was
a fake and posted it. But having worked for years in an industry where I see
many people's names, I have long since abandoned all hope in American parents'
abilities to name their children.
-Jason
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Could be one of them is real, Jason. I assumed they were fake because they didn't
match. My transaction with that user went well and I meant no harm or ill-will
to the user. I just wanted to share my experience dealing with a user that had
mismatched names between Bricklink and Paypal and merely listed that as an example.
I personally don't understand why everyone is so secretive about their god given
legal name. But the fact remains that the name used on bricklink did not match
the payee's name, which could leave a seller open to potential paypal chargebacks.
All it would take is for the paypal user to make a claim saying he didn't buy
something. And then when you send an invoice with a different name as your "proof"
they could say see this proves nothing it is someone else name. So back to
the original posters message I just agree that the offical account name should
be your legally binding name. In my example, Of the two names I listed I would
guess the Paypal name is the fake one, I guess if I wanted to really push the
issue I could contact Paypal and inform them, because I would bet their TOS/rules
would dictate that you have to use a legal name. But as I said, I am not trying
to hurt the user in question. Was merely an example.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | Cyberclark | Posted: | May 10, 2012 14:23 | Subject: | Re: (Cancelled) | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
| In Suggestions, Cyberclark writes:
Why was this canceled? Would it be too much for a moderator to send a simple
message informing us why our posts our canceled so at least we learn from it
and don't do it again?
I am assuming it is because someone felt I posted a users name in a post? But
I did not post any real name. I posted two obviously fictional alias's. Which
as the original topic talks about should be disallowed as the orders are supposed
to be legally binding contracts, but obviously you can't have anything legal
and binding if it isn't a legal name to begin with.
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It was not "obvious" to me or to the members that submitted complaints that you
used personal info in the forum. If you like to answer my pm, I am sure we can
resolve this quickly.
Darren
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Darren, I replied over an hour ago to the email I got from you. At the time
I didn't see a PM in my inbox, so I replied via email. I will resubmit my reply
to your PM. Thanks!
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