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| | | Author: | legoman77  | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 11:10 | | Subject: | Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 804 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | SilentMode | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 129 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | YES - Makes perfect sense to me. |
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| | | | | Author: | PickABrick | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 154 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| What reason were you banned for?
Joe
In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 11:19 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 203 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, PickABrick writes:
| | What reason were you banned for?
Joe
In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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Being snide
John P
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| | | | | Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 316 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
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Why and by whom a person is banned WILL NOT be made public. Banning is not up
for debate or discussion.
Those that are banned generally know why they got banned, and if not they are
welcome to politely contact me for an explanation. Said explanation is also
not up for debate.
Being hostile when contacting me is going to lead to you being ignored.
Also, stores can be run successfully without access to the forums or chat. Sellers
do it every day. Only a small percentage of sellers ever post or chat and they
are still very successful.
Troy
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 220 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
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Why and by whom a person is banned WILL NOT be made public. Banning is not up
for debate or discussion.
Those that are banned generally know why they got banned, and if not they are
welcome to politely contact me for an explanation. Said explanation is also
not up for debate.
Being hostile when contacting me is going to lead to you being ignored.
Also, stores can be run successfully without access to the forums or chat. Sellers
do it every day. Only a small percentage of sellers ever post or chat and they
are still very successful.
Troy
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Common sense would dictate that a ban should be educational and not just punishment.
I did not know why I got banned until you told me. You did not extend that courtesy
to others though. You are assuming that banned people know why they are banned.
Nothing should be left to assumption.
I planned a sale earlier but could not post it, so it does interfere with selling.
I was not hostile to you, but trying to debate the issue which I now see that
you do not like to have your authority questioned in any manner. I was not rude.
I still hold that education would be a good by product of being ban, both for
the person that is censored and the other posters to know what is not acceptable.
How that can be argued against I have no idea.
But you did what you thought was right and I do respect you for that and the
effort that you put forth on Blicklink. Not a lot of people can do what you do
as a seller.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 12:23 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 224 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | How that can be argued against I have no idea.
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Because posting it in public will not be educational. It also has nothing to
do with questioning my authority. All it will get us is a 150 post long thread
where supporters of each side argue their case about why someone should or should
not have been banned.
In the end nothing is learned as peoples minds are already made up and they have
no intention of changing them regardless of the facts.
Troy
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 12:34 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 136 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | How that can be argued against I have no idea.
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Because posting it in public will not be educational. It also has nothing to
do with questioning my authority. All it will get us is a 150 post long thread
where supporters of each side argue their case about why someone should or should
not have been banned.
In the end nothing is learned as peoples minds are already made up and they have
no intention of changing them regardless of the facts.
Troy
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Today, probably thousands of Japanese people have been saved by an accurate communication
and warning system for a Tsunami. Japan 'educates' their citizens for these kind
of events, allways unforseen and allways (unfortunatly) with casualties.
Nevertheless, lives have been saved through education 
IMHO
Eric
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 12:41 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 172 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | How that can be argued against I have no idea.
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Because posting it in public will not be educational. It also has nothing to
do with questioning my authority. All it will get us is a 150 post long thread
where supporters of each side argue their case about why someone should or should
not have been banned.
In the end nothing is learned as peoples minds are already made up and they have
no intention of changing them regardless of the facts.
Troy
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Good point, but again an assumption. You are probably correct for 98% of the
forum. But there are those that will see what a banning offense is since it
is not spelled out well in the rules. Perhaps then the TOS for the forum could
be expanded. I had no idea that responding snidely to a snide comment is a reason
to ban. Also there should be a reason proffered to the banned person. That is
courtesy, nothing more and nothing less. I have paid over $7,000 in bricklink
fees in 13 months, have no negatives for selling, (a negative causes more damage
to bricklink than a snide comment ever can) and have sent in a lot of pictures
of rare parts, sets and colors. I have helped members when I can and have given
discounts to members that are ripped off. At least a reason should have been
given to me with specifics. I deserve at least that rather than a summary response
and then a "Mods will do what ever they want" further explanation.
I still say that education cannot summarily be given up on and there are members
that will benefit from that. I really, sincerely believe the opposite of you,
education is effective and punishment is less effective. My opinion is just different
from yours. Mine is based on 30 years of having people work for me from the Army
to a wholesale business.
There will be no further comment from me on being censored unless a specific
question is asked. Many people have emailed me and I will continue to answer
the e-mails.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 219 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | Good point, but again an assumption. You are probably correct for 98% of the
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John,
I am not just making this stuff up. It is not an assumption. It is based on
past experience in these very forums. Reasons have been posted in the past,
and the results were just as I described.
One side will say "Yes, they should have been banned for that"
The other side will say "No, they shouldn't have been banned for that"
Neither side will change their opinion, no new knowledge will be gained, and
all that will be accomplished is extending the original problem.
| | I still say that education cannot summarily be given up on and there are members
that will benefit from that. I really, sincerely believe the opposite of you,
education is effective and punishment is less effective.
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I don't think that our opinions are that different, just the implementation.
I don't think public discussion is helpful. I would prefer a different system
where the person being banned would be supplied with the reason when they try
to post. Much like you can put in a reason for stoplisting someone that is displayed
to them when they try to shop in your store.
Unfortunately, the system only allows us to select from a limited list of reasons
in a drop down box, and provide private notes to the other mods. An additional
text box that would be displayed to the poster would be beneficial.
Troy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb186511 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 122 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | Good point, but again an assumption. You are probably correct for 98% of the
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John,
I am not just making this stuff up. It is not an assumption. It is based on
past experience in these very forums. Reasons have been posted in the past,
and the results were just as I described.
One side will say "Yes, they should have been banned for that"
The other side will say "No, they shouldn't have been banned for that"
Neither side will change their opinion, no new knowledge will be gained, and
all that will be accomplished is extending the original problem.
| | I still say that education cannot summarily be given up on and there are members
that will benefit from that. I really, sincerely believe the opposite of you,
education is effective and punishment is less effective.
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I don't think that our opinions are that different, just the implementation.
I don't think public discussion is helpful. I would prefer a different system
where the person being banned would be supplied with the reason when they try
to post. Much like you can put in a reason for stoplisting someone that is displayed
to them when they try to shop in your store.
Unfortunately, the system only allows us to select from a limited list of reasons
in a drop down box, and provide private notes to the other mods. An additional
text box that would be displayed to the poster would be beneficial.
Troy
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So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:11 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 160 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:13 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
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Very true, once your in the kitchen cooking the wife usually makes you do more.
Sorry I just couldn't resist. It's been a slow day.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:33 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 137 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | The START part I can understand, but the "participate in or otherwise involved
in" part seems quite broad. If this is the new standard, will it be applied litterally
and equally to everyone? Just seeking some clarification so we can better understand
what is expected of us.
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It doesn't mean that everyone who posts in said thread will be automatically
banned.
It does mean that those that reply "in kind" or those who "throw gasoline on
the fire" can expect a timeout. This also goes for people that just can't let
an issue drop and start new threads to continue the problem.
Application of the rules is intended to be applied evenly and fairly, but is
handled on a case by case basis by different people at different times so there
will be some variability.
So, something said today may not get a reaction, but the same thing said tomorrow
may. It is not a perfect system, but we do the best that we can.
Troy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb186511 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
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Thanks for the educational response.
As a business major I have to disagree with publicly letting the forum know why
and that someone has been banned. To some more sensitive people it could be taken
as public humiliation or slander. This can also hurt the sales in that persons
store. A new buyer may not want to buy from a seller who is in trouble with the
very site they are selling on.
I do however agree that there MUST be a system implimated for letting the poster
know they have done something wrong. For a website that so strongly stresses
community involvement it is actually quite embarrising that there isnt a system
in place.
It is also a common and genuine practice to issue a warning to the user so they
know they have done something wrong prior to issueing a ban. Not everyones brain
ticks the same. What seems wrong to one may not seem wrong to the other. So common
sense would tell you to issue a warning first. This will educate the offender
they are doing something wrong and you will likely see an instant improvement
with out punishment. You may do this I dont know all the details but it should
be required.
The other thing that most forums normally do and should do is post a sticky post
that stays at the top of the page pointing out certains issues and TOS that they
see may getting out of control, sort of a public warning. This would be a great
addition to bricklink.
These statements are IMO and I hope they are not taken out of context but that
is the way I see it. I see both sides opinion on the matter and recognize there
is always room for improvement. To this point from what I have read it almost
appears as a dictatorship or a my way or the highway sort of situation. This
doesnt work for anyone especially a community involved website.
Gary
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 14:06 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 99 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
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Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
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Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
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Eric,
Free speech is fine, but this is a privately owened website, their rules dictate
what can and can't be said. No one is forcing you to participate in the forums.
I can be sarcastic and irrelevant, but I do know when to stop. I am not saying
you don't, but sometimes people forget. Sometimes they are passionate about
the subject and sometimes it just gets under their skin. I would hope that there
would be a warning first, but the admins have the right and the duty to stop
things from getting out of hand. So far I think they have done a great job,
thou sometimes they have shown too much restraint in the past, I am sure that
anyone who has been banned might disagree with me.
Just my 2 cents,
Tracy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | JoeMomma | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 14:27 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
| | In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
|
Eric,
Free speech is fine, but this is a privately owened website, their rules dictate
what can and can't be said. No one is forcing you to participate in the forums.
I can be sarcastic and irrelevant, but I do know when to stop. I am not saying
you don't, but sometimes people forget. Sometimes they are passionate about
the subject and sometimes it just gets under their skin. I would hope that there
would be a warning first, but the admins have the right and the duty to stop
things from getting out of hand. So far I think they have done a great job,
thou sometimes they have shown too much restraint in the past, I am sure that
anyone who has been banned might disagree with me.
Just my 2 cents,
Tracy
|
If we keep this up, we might have enough to buy a handful of lego pieces!
JoeMomma
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rikitikitaviguy | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 14:28 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
| | In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
|
Eric,
Free speech is fine, but this is a privately owened website, their rules dictate
what can and can't be said. No one is forcing you to participate in the forums.
I can be sarcastic and irrelevant, but I do know when to stop. I am not saying
you don't, but sometimes people forget. Sometimes they are passionate about
the subject and sometimes it just gets under their skin. I would hope that there
would be a warning first, but the admins have the right and the duty to stop
things from getting out of hand. So far I think they have done a great job,
thou sometimes they have shown too much restraint in the past, I am sure that
anyone who has been banned might disagree with me.
Just my 2 cents,
Tracy
|
If we keep this up, we might have enough to buy a handful of lego pieces!
JoeMomma
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Only new LEGO! Older LEGO (Bayer bricks) will set you back much more! 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | JoeMomma | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, rikitikitaviguy writes:
| | In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
| | In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
|
Eric,
Free speech is fine, but this is a privately owened website, their rules dictate
what can and can't be said. No one is forcing you to participate in the forums.
I can be sarcastic and irrelevant, but I do know when to stop. I am not saying
you don't, but sometimes people forget. Sometimes they are passionate about
the subject and sometimes it just gets under their skin. I would hope that there
would be a warning first, but the admins have the right and the duty to stop
things from getting out of hand. So far I think they have done a great job,
thou sometimes they have shown too much restraint in the past, I am sure that
anyone who has been banned might disagree with me.
Just my 2 cents,
Tracy
|
If we keep this up, we might have enough to buy a handful of lego pieces!
JoeMomma
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Only new LEGO! Older LEGO (Bayer bricks) will set you back much more!
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LOL so true and thank goodness we are not also talking about Modulex!
JoeMomma
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:26 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
| | In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
|
Eric,
Free speech is fine, but this is a privately owened website, their rules dictate
what can and can't be said. No one is forcing you to participate in the forums.
I can be sarcastic and irrelevant, but I do know when to stop. I am not saying
you don't, but sometimes people forget. Sometimes they are passionate about
the subject and sometimes it just gets under their skin. I would hope that there
would be a warning first, but the admins have the right and the duty to stop
things from getting out of hand. So far I think they have done a great job,
thou sometimes they have shown too much restraint in the past, I am sure that
anyone who has been banned might disagree with me.
Just my 2 cents,
Tracy
|
If we keep this up, we might have enough to buy a handful of lego pieces!
JoeMomma
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Buy from me now and you get 25% off that 2 cents.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | istokg | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 14:46 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 124 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
|
Freedom of speech is for when you're in public...
A forum is not a public place. Think of it as being invited to someones home...
you're their guest (as on a forum).
If you cross the line or make your host angry in any way... they can either ask
you to leave or kick you out... with or without explanation.
I am a member on a local forum... with only 2 rules... do NOT attack others personally...
and no trolling.
If you violate either rules... your logon is revoked, and your IP address is
denied access. In fact they have a forum feature that removes all of your posts
automatically... as though you were never there. The owner of that forum had
this to say... "I don't have time to police this forum 100% of the time... if
someone disobeys the rules of the forum... it's buh-bye without explanation or
recourse".
So some forums are managed mores strictly than others.
Cheers,
Gary Istok
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 14:55 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, istokg writes:
| | In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Are'nt we living in a free world (well for most people then) with the liberty
of speech?
AFAIK we (and most people here) live in a democracy, WITH freedom of speech.
I can understand the reasons, when one is being 'grose', not when he/she expresses
their feelings or opinions on a certain matter or issue or even a another member
(regardless of the start of the thread). Is giving opinions really 'stiring the
pot'? IMHO NO! Yes one can respect another member more then another, but replying
to posts (regardless who they come from, or the reasons attached) is just a matter
of freedom of speech and no-one should be banned for that matter (in sake for
the US citizens --and other people in the world-- who died for 'liberty of speech')
as you state.
The reasons for being banned are well determined (I suppose), reminding a member
(or reminding the community) is a matter of respect towards the member (or the
community).
Otherwise, this is a dictatorship!
Just my 2 cents, Eric
Regards
PS with no disrespect to the community, neither the leaders of the community,
just giving my opinion
|
Freedom of speech is for when you're in public...
A forum is not a public place. Think of it as being invited to someones home...
you're their guest (as on a forum).
If you cross the line or make your host angry in any way... they can either ask
you to leave or kick you out... with or without explanation.
I am a member on a local forum... with only 2 rules... do NOT attack others personally...
and no trolling.
If you violate either rules... your logon is revoked, and your IP address is
denied access. In fact they have a forum feature that removes all of your posts
automatically... as though you were never there. The owner of that forum had
this to say... "I don't have time to police this forum 100% of the time... if
someone disobeys the rules of the forum... it's buh-bye without explanation or
recourse".
So some forums are managed mores strictly than others.
Cheers,
Gary Istok
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Thank you for the well explained reasons Gary and about the 'public place' and
'private sites', much appreciated! I actually had no idea 'laws' only apply to
public places/circomstances and don't apply to private persons or sites!
So I guess we all can do whatever we want in the world!
Good night (CET)
Eric
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | JoeMomma | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:00 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Not that I am being a kiss butt or brown noser, but I would have to agree with
Troy's reasoning or remarks. The biggest problem on the forum is people like
to take cheap shots on certain buyers/sellers in the forum on a regular basis.
You also have some members who love to throw some kindle soaked in petro to keep
the fires burning.
Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
P.S. Underagers are fair game!
JoeMomma
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:02 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Not that I am being a kiss butt or brown noser, but I would have to agree with
Troy's reasoning or remarks. The biggest problem on the forum is people like
to take cheap shots on certain buyers/sellers in the forum on a regular basis.
You also have some members who love to throw some kindle soaked in petro to keep
the fires burning.
Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
P.S. Underagers are fair game!
JoeMomma
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Hey now, I wasn't bullied in school, in fact give me your lunch money.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rikitikitaviguy | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:05 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
| | In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
|
Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
|
Not that I am being a kiss butt or brown noser, but I would have to agree with
Troy's reasoning or remarks. The biggest problem on the forum is people like
to take cheap shots on certain buyers/sellers in the forum on a regular basis.
You also have some members who love to throw some kindle soaked in petro to keep
the fires burning.
Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
P.S. Underagers are fair game!
JoeMomma
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Hey now, I wasn't bullied in school, in fact give me your lunch money.
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Ha!
It's not even done like that much anymore. Now you have a student/picture ID
with an account attached to it. When you go to pay for your meal, you swipe
your card and your picture etc appears on a screen for the cashier and the cost
is deducted from your account.
LM
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:24 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, rikitikitaviguy writes:
| | In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
| | In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
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Not that I am being a kiss butt or brown noser, but I would have to agree with
Troy's reasoning or remarks. The biggest problem on the forum is people like
to take cheap shots on certain buyers/sellers in the forum on a regular basis.
You also have some members who love to throw some kindle soaked in petro to keep
the fires burning.
Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
P.S. Underagers are fair game!
JoeMomma
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Hey now, I wasn't bullied in school, in fact give me your lunch money.
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Ha!
It's not even done like that much anymore. Now you have a student/picture ID
with an account attached to it. When you go to pay for your meal, you swipe
your card and your picture etc appears on a screen for the cashier and the cost
is deducted from your account.
LM
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Man what a rip-off, I have a 12 yo daughter, starts junior high next year and
gets the id, our SS just uses a code, but they do take cash.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:11 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong.
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Good post all around. But I do have a question about the above comments. In defense
of frequent posters (of which you are one even though you are not in the Top
10), merely because someone posts alot and offers their opinions on many things
does NOT mean they "throw their weight around" or think they are "all knowing"
or better than anyone else. As long as they are civil, frequent posting is not
a crime or bannable offense (the only exception I know of being multiple sales
posts every day). So before anyone baits or accuses any poster of thinking they
are better than others or throwing their weight around, you might want to keep
the above in mind. Doing so will help prevent some poop storms from brewing or
worsening.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | JoeMomma | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:22 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong.
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Good post all around. But I do have a question about the above comments. In defense
of frequent posters (of which you are one even though you are not in the Top
10), merely because someone posts alot and offers their opinions on many things
does NOT mean they "throw their weight around" or think they are "all knowing"
or better than anyone else. As long as they are civil, frequent posting is not
a crime or bannable offense (the only exception I know of being multiple sales
posts every day). So before anyone baits or accuses any poster of thinking they
are better than others or throwing their weight around, you might want to keep
the above in mind. Doing so will help prevent some poop storms from brewing or
worsening.
Thor
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The funny thing Foster is my post was not directed at one or several people in
general. Like I put in my posting I can only assume that in my head. That is
my opinion and it may be true it may be false. I do some members with low feedback
put their opinions in like if they know everything themselves. It just seems
to me that some members with high feed back seem to be all knowing. And right
now it seems this is a new poop storm that is brewing or is already hitting.
So this is my last post on this.
JoeMomma
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:32 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | It just seems to me that some members with high feed back seem to be all knowing.
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And to me too. But I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. High feedback
equals experience equal knowledge. Quite natural actually. But if they post their
knowledge and opinions in a rude uncivil manner, that is different. My comment
was simply saying that just because someone posts their opinions often does not
mean they think they are better than anyone else or throwing their weight around.
| | And right now it seems this is a new poop storm that is brewing or is already hitting.
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Why? The discussion is quite civil and courteous. And I did mention that I was
commenting very generally and did not mean to suggest that you were talking about
anyone in particular. My apologies if it came out differently.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | JoeMomma | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:41 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | It just seems to me that some members with high feed back seem to be all knowing.
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And to me too. But I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. High feedback
equals experience equal knowledge. Quite natural actually. But if they post their
knowledge and opinions in a rude uncivil manner, that is different. My comment
was simply saying that just because someone posts their opinions often does not
mean they think they are better than anyone else or throwing their weight around.
| | And right now it seems this is a new poop storm that is brewing or is already hitting.
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Why? The discussion is quite civil and courteous. And I did mention that I was
commenting very generally and did not mean to suggest that you were talking about
anyone in particular. My apologies if it came out differently.
Thor
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Oops you brought me out of my retirement. My post was a general post that is
all. And the poop storm is coming because this tread is getting long alreay but
I assume this because it is friday. And I assume this because us Americans are
lazy and should be working right now such as myself instead of posting on the
forum.
JoeMomma
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 16:05 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | My post was a general post that is all.
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So was mine.
| | And the poop storm is coming because this tread is getting long alreay
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Because it is long??? See, this is similar to what I tried to explain in my previous
post. Merely because a thread is long does not mean a poop storm is coming. No
more so than because a member posts often. Quite often, it is the REACTION and
assumptions made (and posted) in response to long threads or frequent posters
that can cross the line. People CAN have long civil courteous discussions without
things deteriorating merely because they talk a lot. My grandma talked a lot.
She was a sweetie who never hurt anyone. I got bored sometimes with all her talking,
but I never thought (or said anything) bad about her just because she liked to
carry on.
The same goes for persistence. Persistance or perserverance is often thought
of as a positive trait (whereas others can spin it as being stubborn, narrow-minded
and opinionated). It is not against any rules to take a position and stick to
it. But things can quickly get out of hand when others react inappropriately
to such persistance. Calm is not threatened by civil courteous verbosity. But
it can be threatened by responding inappropriately uncivil to such verbosity.
Again, I am talking generally and not about anything or anyone in particular.
I just want to get across the idea that just because someone posts a lot does
not give others license to respond improperly.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Melanie01 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:21 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
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It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times.
JoeMomma
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For that very reason, I rarely post here. Because of some of the ungentleman
like behavior here, it's just better not to paint a target on yourself.
Melanie
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:28 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Garys_Toys writes:
| | So I assume being banned for snide remarks means no sarcastic humor in the forums,
correct?
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Sarcasm is fine.
Sarcastic remarks targeted at a specific member are not. More so when obviously
trying to bait or get a rise out of said member. Especially if you have a long
history of arguing with said member.
This isn't rocket science. If you start, participate in or are otherwise involved
in a forum poop-storm then the chances are good that you are going to see a ban
in your future.
If you engage in good nature banter with your friends then a ban is unlikely.
Taking pot-shots or otherwise deriding another member that you have an adversarial
relationship with is not wise.
Jumping in to a heated conversation just to "stir the pot" is also not wise.
Troy
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Not that I am being a kiss butt or brown noser, but I would have to agree with
Troy's reasoning or remarks. The biggest problem on the forum is people like
to take cheap shots on certain buyers/sellers in the forum on a regular basis.
You also have some members who love to throw some kindle soaked in petro to keep
the fires burning.
Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
P.S. Underagers are fair game!
JoeMomma
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25% off that .15.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 19:09 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
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That's certainly one way to interpret what is happening in those threads. I don't
see it that way myself.
Part of the reason that I might interpret it differently is that I am one of
those very-high-volume posters, who often participates in the poop-storm threads.
And yet, I have very low feedback (comparatively speaking), so I don't see that
it has much to do with the feedback rating.
(I think that better forum software could actually help solve the underlying
problem, but that's a story for another day!)
| | It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
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I think that last sentence says a lot about how and why poop-storms erupt. (I
don't mean this in a disrespectful way, nor do I mean to imply that you, or your
comments, are the cause of poopstorms (yes, I'm enjoying saying that!) -- I will
get back to what I mean in a moment.)
As an interesting side-note, the difference between the forum and the chat room
fascinates me. I am much more of a "forum" person. My real job actually revolves
around a chat platform, so I am very comfortable in that environment, but despite
that, it still feels awkward to me in a way, because chats don't easily allow
me to be myself. To me, chat is too shallow. It's too rapid-fire. It's like the
little cut-out blurbs that you see highlighted in magazine articles. Forums are
more like the articles.
Back in the late 90's, most of my internet time was spent on Usenet. (My ideal
forum interface would be an exact copy of Agent.) None of my time was spent on
IRC.
Now back to what I was saying before: reaction to "I am sure someone will pick
my posting apart!" I assume that the subtext is that this act of picking something
apart is negative. I am picker-aparter. But to me, picking something apart is
not a negative thing. It's a wonderfully positive thing. Not just for the picker-aparter,
but also for the person whose ideas are being picked.
I love it when someone picks apart my arguments. (I've noticed also that I seem
to use that word, "argument", differently than most people here.) I love ideas.
I love trying to understand them. And I love it when someone demonstrates that
I am wrong about something.
The worst thing for me, in a forum, is when I post a long, detailed post about
something, and get no reaction at all. The second worst is when the only reaction
is "I agree." I don't particularly want people to agree with me about things,
because I can't really learn anything from people who agree with me.
I've had some relatively long arguments with several people in this forum. I
believe that I've stayed mostly civil through the vast majority of them (a few
posts come to mind as exceptions, but I try!). But I enjoyed those disagreements.
And not in a poop-storms-are-fun way, either. I enjoyed the disagreements because
they forced me to think about my ideas more clearly. To consider how to explain
my position better. To take into account things that I would never have considered
had they not been brought up by someone whose brain clearly works differently
than mine. I enjoyed all the disagreements because they made me think. And I
like to think.
Personally, if I was running the forum, there would be a lot less moderation.
But that's just a personal preference. I don't run the forum, nor do I want to.
I'm more than willing to defer to the wishes of the site owners and admins.
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Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | maggiec | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 19:59 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
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That's certainly one way to interpret what is happening in those threads. I don't
see it that way myself.
Part of the reason that I might interpret it differently is that I am one of
those very-high-volume posters, who often participates in the poop-storm threads.
And yet, I have very low feedback (comparatively speaking), so I don't see that
it has much to do with the feedback rating.
(I think that better forum software could actually help solve the underlying
problem, but that's a story for another day!)
| | It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
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I think that last sentence says a lot about how and why poop-storms erupt. (I
don't mean this in a disrespectful way, nor do I mean to imply that you, or your
comments, are the cause of poopstorms (yes, I'm enjoying saying that!) -- I will
get back to what I mean in a moment.)
As an interesting side-note, the difference between the forum and the chat room
fascinates me. I am much more of a "forum" person. My real job actually revolves
around a chat platform, so I am very comfortable in that environment, but despite
that, it still feels awkward to me in a way, because chats don't easily allow
me to be myself. To me, chat is too shallow. It's too rapid-fire. It's like the
little cut-out blurbs that you see highlighted in magazine articles. Forums are
more like the articles.
Back in the late 90's, most of my internet time was spent on Usenet. (My ideal
forum interface would be an exact copy of Agent.) None of my time was spent on
IRC.
Now back to what I was saying before: reaction to "I am sure someone will pick
my posting apart!" I assume that the subtext is that this act of picking something
apart is negative. I am picker-aparter. But to me, picking something apart is
not a negative thing. It's a wonderfully positive thing. Not just for the picker-aparter,
but also for the person whose ideas are being picked.
I love it when someone picks apart my arguments. (I've noticed also that I seem
to use that word, "argument", differently than most people here.) I love ideas.
I love trying to understand them. And I love it when someone demonstrates that
I am wrong about something.
The worst thing for me, in a forum, is when I post a long, detailed post about
something, and get no reaction at all. The second worst is when the only reaction
is "I agree." I don't particularly want people to agree with me about things,
because I can't really learn anything from people who agree with me.
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I agree!
| | I've had some relatively long arguments with several people in this forum. I
believe that I've stayed mostly civil through the vast majority of them (a few
posts come to mind as exceptions, but I try!). But I enjoyed those disagreements.
And not in a poop-storms-are-fun way, either. I enjoyed the disagreements because
they forced me to think about my ideas more clearly. To consider how to explain
my position better. To take into account things that I would never have considered
had they not been brought up by someone whose brain clearly works differently
than mine. I enjoyed all the disagreements because they made me think. And I
like to think.
Personally, if I was running the forum, there would be a lot less moderation.
But that's just a personal preference. I don't run the forum, nor do I want to.
I'm more than willing to defer to the wishes of the site owners and admins.
--
Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 21:01 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 164 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, JoeMomma writes:
| | Some members who think they are wise and all knowing because of their high feedback
(I can only assume that in my head) can throw their weight and opinions around.
This tends to get the mob going in the forum and than it becomes my I.Q. is bigger
then yours so I am right and you are wrong. Like Troy said it does become a big
poop storm! And that is sad when someone is trying to ask a question or post
a concern in the forum and then it gets twisted and turned into a worthless post.
Do not get me wrong and times I love to sit back and read the drama but the last
several days have been great being able to read real problems and real answers
to problems posted in the forum.
|
That's certainly one way to interpret what is happening in those threads. I don't
see it that way myself.
Part of the reason that I might interpret it differently is that I am one of
those very-high-volume posters, who often participates in the poop-storm threads.
And yet, I have very low feedback (comparatively speaking), so I don't see that
it has much to do with the feedback rating.
(I think that better forum software could actually help solve the underlying
problem, but that's a story for another day!)
| | It is funny people in chat say they hate to post in the forum because how people
respond to postings. It is like a mean girl mentality at times. We all are geeks,
nerds, and dorks for loving Lego. Maybe we should think about how it was when
we were in school, no one liked being picked on or bullied. Well guess we are
now adults and should act like adults. That is my .15 cents and I am sure someone
will pick my posting apart!
|
I think that last sentence says a lot about how and why poop-storms erupt. (I
don't mean this in a disrespectful way, nor do I mean to imply that you, or your
comments, are the cause of poopstorms (yes, I'm enjoying saying that!) -- I will
get back to what I mean in a moment.)
As an interesting side-note, the difference between the forum and the chat room
fascinates me. I am much more of a "forum" person. My real job actually revolves
around a chat platform, so I am very comfortable in that environment, but despite
that, it still feels awkward to me in a way, because chats don't easily allow
me to be myself. To me, chat is too shallow. It's too rapid-fire. It's like the
little cut-out blurbs that you see highlighted in magazine articles. Forums are
more like the articles.
Back in the late 90's, most of my internet time was spent on Usenet. (My ideal
forum interface would be an exact copy of Agent.) None of my time was spent on
IRC.
Now back to what I was saying before: reaction to "I am sure someone will pick
my posting apart!" I assume that the subtext is that this act of picking something
apart is negative. I am picker-aparter. But to me, picking something apart is
not a negative thing. It's a wonderfully positive thing. Not just for the picker-aparter,
but also for the person whose ideas are being picked.
I love it when someone picks apart my arguments. (I've noticed also that I seem
to use that word, "argument", differently than most people here.) I love ideas.
I love trying to understand them. And I love it when someone demonstrates that
I am wrong about something.
The worst thing for me, in a forum, is when I post a long, detailed post about
something, and get no reaction at all. The second worst is when the only reaction
is "I agree." I don't particularly want people to agree with me about things,
because I can't really learn anything from people who agree with me.
I've had some relatively long arguments with several people in this forum. I
believe that I've stayed mostly civil through the vast majority of them (a few
posts come to mind as exceptions, but I try!). But I enjoyed those disagreements.
And not in a poop-storms-are-fun way, either. I enjoyed the disagreements because
they forced me to think about my ideas more clearly. To consider how to explain
my position better. To take into account things that I would never have considered
had they not been brought up by someone whose brain clearly works differently
than mine. I enjoyed all the disagreements because they made me think. And I
like to think.
Personally, if I was running the forum, there would be a lot less moderation.
But that's just a personal preference. I don't run the forum, nor do I want to.
I'm more than willing to defer to the wishes of the site owners and admins.
--
Marc.
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Excellent post Marc. I feel the exact same way you do about "arguing". It can
be a very positive learning experience. I am not easily convinced, but some have
been able to change my thinking about some things (Tracy and stealth postage
comes quickly to my mind). More importantly, it makes me review my arguments
from different angles and perspectives, which is quite educational in itself.
Unfortunately, there are some who don't share our appreciation for a good long
civil argument or debate. They see it as a negative quality (such as stubborness
or windbaggedness) instead of persistence and steadfastness. As a student and
in my previous work as a lawyer, arguments were the tools (art) of our trade
and perserverance was highly valued. I NEVER had any personal problems with any
of my colleagues and even after heated arguments in or out of court or meetings,
we could still shake hands and grab some beers together after work. Arguments
over issues or opinions really don't have to get personal. In the real world
we tend to be more careful about what we say to someone's face, and we can often
dismiss what might initially appears as snipes by considering the expressions
and demeanor of the person with whom we are arguing. Unfortunately, we don't
have the same advantages in a written forum.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:05 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | Good point, but again an assumption. You are probably correct for 98% of the
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John,
I am not just making this stuff up. It is not an assumption. It is based on
past experience in these very forums. Reasons have been posted in the past,
and the results were just as I described.
One side will say "Yes, they should have been banned for that"
The other side will say "No, they shouldn't have been banned for that"
Neither side will change their opinion, no new knowledge will be gained, and
all that will be accomplished is extending the original problem.
| | I still say that education cannot summarily be given up on and there are members
that will benefit from that. I really, sincerely believe the opposite of you,
education is effective and punishment is less effective.
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I don't think that our opinions are that different, just the implementation.
I don't think public discussion is helpful. I would prefer a different system
where the person being banned would be supplied with the reason when they try
to post. Much like you can put in a reason for stoplisting someone that is displayed
to them when they try to shop in your store.
Unfortunately, the system only allows us to select from a limited list of reasons
in a drop down box, and provide private notes to the other mods. An additional
text box that would be displayed to the poster would be beneficial.
Troy
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Thank you
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | dmoser22 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:37 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| The fact remains, the forum guidelines are open to interpretation, so I don't
think it's reasonable to assume that a member will always know what rule he's
violated.
In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | Unfortunately, the system only allows us to select from a limited list of reasons
in a drop down box, and provide private notes to the other mods. An additional
text box that would be displayed to the poster would be beneficial.
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So why not use the perfectly good messaging system we already have? Presumably,
forum bannings are at most a "handful a day" occurance. It seems reasonable
to me that a member being banned should at least receive a short personal message
from the admin imposing the ban, with a one-sentence explanation. That does
not imply that the admin's decision is not final, and it does not obligate the
admin to engage the banned member in extended discussion of the ban, or indeed,
to even answer any further messages from the banned member on the subject.
-djm
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ScootersBricks | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 20:34 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 128 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| A message or email to the poster would be an excellent compromise. Basically
a PM that says, "you have been banned from the forum for x days due to reason:"
If you have any questions please refer to our forum rules at (link). I doubt
many members get banned on a daily basis so it would add a minute or two of work
but may save a lot of time from threads like this.
Public display of the reason? Heck no. In the last community I ran (30k users
and up to 300 active at once) any staff action that a member didn't agree
with made some members feel they get a short term free reign to break any rule,
because "if the staff member messed up we can too." Better to keep punishment
private but disclosed to the poster to allow him or her to learn and grow from
the experience.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rikitikitaviguy | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 22:13 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Hmmmm...
Were you even around then? You might have just been a 'baby Bricklinker'...
LM
In Suggestions, ScootersBricks writes:
| | A message or email to the poster would be an excellent compromise. Basically
a PM that says, "you have been banned from the forum for x days due to reason:"
If you have any questions please refer to our forum rules at (link). I doubt
many members get banned on a daily basis so it would add a minute or two of work
but may save a lot of time from threads like this.
Public display of the reason? Heck no. In the last community I ran (30k users
and up to 300 active at once) any staff action that a member didn't agree
with made some members feel they get a short term free reign to break any rule,
because "if the staff member messed up we can too." Better to keep punishment
private but disclosed to the poster to allow him or her to learn and grow from
the experience.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ScootersBricks | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 15:53 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, rikitikitaviguy writes:
| | Hmmmm...
Were you even around then? You might have just been a 'baby Bricklinker'...
LM
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Nope, but account age is not an exclusive mark of maturity or ability to reason.
I've never been in charge of a community as big as BrickLink before, but
I have been in charge of a community a bit larger than the BrickLink forums (which,
as you probably know, represents a fraction of the overall BrickLink users since
most never venture out to the message board). As a member and forum user, I
think my opinion should be just as relevant as anyone else here.
My point stands: very few people get banned in any given day/week from the forums,
and while sending a PM explaining the ban reason may take a few extra minutes
a week for a discussion board moderator, the amount of time spent responding
to threads like this may equal or surpass that amount of time--meaning a
potential net decrease in required work hours for already overworked staff members.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Made_In_Bricks | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 15:58 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 99 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ScootersBricks writes:
| | A message or email to the poster would be an excellent compromise. Basically
a PM that says, "you have been banned from the forum for x days due to reason:"
If you have any questions please refer to our forum rules at (link). I doubt
many members get banned on a daily basis so it would add a minute or two of work
but may save a lot of time from threads like this.
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when I got my forum ban, I didn't break ANY rule, but a moderator used deductive
reasoning skills, albeit WRONGLY, to assume I broke a rule, week ban
I wish it would have been public, because people could have called out the mods
for an incorrect ban. I tried to appeal in messages, but the mod would not admit
their mistake.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | spwilson13 | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 16:22 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
| | In Suggestions, ScootersBricks writes:
| | A message or email to the poster would be an excellent compromise. Basically
a PM that says, "you have been banned from the forum for x days due to reason:"
If you have any questions please refer to our forum rules at (link). I doubt
many members get banned on a daily basis so it would add a minute or two of work
but may save a lot of time from threads like this.
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when I got my forum ban, I didn't break ANY rule, but a moderator used deductive
reasoning skills, albeit WRONGLY, to assume I broke a rule, week ban
I wish it would have been public, because people could have called out the mods
for an incorrect ban. I tried to appeal in messages, but the mod would not admit
their mistake.
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Kinda like when I got stop listed by scootersbricks even though we never had
any transactions.
Completely unfair that bricklink allows this.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 16:37 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, spwilson13 writes:
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Kinda like when I got stop listed by scootersbricks even though we never had
any transactions.
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Oh come on! We’re many to have been stop-listed without any interaction with
the stop-lister but we don’t whine about it each and every time we can contrive
a reason to talk about it.
| | Completely unfair that bricklink allows this.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 17:42 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, spwilson13 writes:
| | In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
| | In Suggestions, ScootersBricks writes:
| | A message or email to the poster would be an excellent compromise. Basically
a PM that says, "you have been banned from the forum for x days due to reason:"
If you have any questions please refer to our forum rules at (link). I doubt
many members get banned on a daily basis so it would add a minute or two of work
but may save a lot of time from threads like this.
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when I got my forum ban, I didn't break ANY rule, but a moderator used deductive
reasoning skills, albeit WRONGLY, to assume I broke a rule, week ban
I wish it would have been public, because people could have called out the mods
for an incorrect ban. I tried to appeal in messages, but the mod would not admit
their mistake.
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Kinda like when I got stop listed by scootersbricks even though we never had
any transactions.
Completely unfair that bricklink allows this.
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Let it go, man! Didn't this happen years ago? Why are you so hung up on
this? Does he have something you really, really need? Why would you even want
to shop there after the whole thing has generated such angst? Stores (even outside
of BrickLink) can choose to do business with whomever they want, as can buyers.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 16:34 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
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when I got my forum ban, I didn't break ANY rule, but a moderator used deductive
reasoning skills, albeit WRONGLY, to assume I broke a rule, week ban
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Ah, deduction…
Three Corsican¹ (stereotypically “laid-back lazy” but also “touchy” and “vindicative”)
in a bar.
One leaves.
One of the others: “Did he say ciao or did he say miao?”
A little time later: “Because if he said ciao, it’s okay. But if he said miao….”
Later: “Miao, it’s the cat.”
… “And the cat, it drinks milk.”
… “And milk, that’s the cow.”
… “And the cow, it has horns.”
… “And who has horns? The cuckold. Eh! He insulted me!”
¹ I know, that’s not politically correct. To equalize: Why French highways don’t
have lights? Because French think they are bright.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 17:54 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | Three Corsican¹ (stereotypically “laid-back lazy” but also “touchy” and “vindicative”)
in a bar.
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Reminds me of the comic book "Asterix in Corsica". That book is loaded with references
to the above.
http://asterixonline.info/comics/index.php?manga=Asterix_Comics&chapter=20&page=34
The Asterix comic book series has many stereotypical references to a lot of European
countries and customs.
Niek.
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| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
And remember not to bring a flame near Corsican cheese 
| | The Asterix comic book series has many stereotypical references to a lot of European
countries and customs.
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I fell into it when I was a boy
There’s also quantity of subtle jokes one can miss in Goscinny’s texts, not to
forget the caricatures Uderzo slipped into each book (harder to get if you’re
not French or old enough to remember people from the time each book was written
but a few international celebs among them (The Beatles, Sean Connery, Kirk Douglas…)).
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Made_In_Bricks | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 10:55 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 165 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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Because posting it in public will not be educational. It also has nothing to
do with questioning my authority. All it will get us is a 150 post long thread
where supporters of each side argue their case about why someone should or should
not have been banned.
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lol, was looking at this suggestion from a few years ago
trying to prevent 150 post threads is like trying block the sun...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rikitikitaviguy | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 16:09 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 188 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I remember it...I posted in it too although off thread topic.
John was still selling (buy, never sell ) Troy was overseer, and Gary I. wasn't
banned from selling...
LM
n Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
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Because posting it in public will not be educational. It also has nothing to
do with questioning my authority. All it will get us is a 150 post long thread
where supporters of each side argue their case about why someone should or should
not have been banned.
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lol, was looking at this suggestion from a few years ago
trying to prevent 150 post threads is like trying block the sun...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 18:21 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, rikitikitaviguy writes:
| | I remember it...I posted in it too although off thread topic.
John was still selling (buy, never sell ) Troy was overseer, and Gary I. wasn't
banned from selling...
LM
n Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
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Because posting it in public will not be educational. It also has nothing to
do with questioning my authority. All it will get us is a 150 post long thread
where supporters of each side argue their case about why someone should or should
not have been banned.
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lol, was looking at this suggestion from a few years ago
trying to prevent 150 post threads is like trying block the sun...
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Nothing on the internet ever dies. What a good memory.
I wonder if I can be snide now Troy is no longer a moderator.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | steekstra | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 13:42 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | Author: | BLUSER_87297 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 15:32 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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I believe the people who were recently banned till today deserved it, it was
a short ban which I am sure was to send some kind of message to specific posters,
don't come whine about it now that you can post again lol it looks like some
came back to but really why not just accept it, it's over already now anyways
you can't change it, but you most certainly could get it reinstated on you if
your not careful ??? There was plenty of reason for the bans and there is no
doubt that those who were banned knew why. Maybe it will finally help with the
forums a little bit, the only worry is that it might only be a temporary lesson
just as it has been in the past but lets hope for the best .
Thanks to whichever Mod did enforce the bans hopefully it will do some good!!
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| | | | | Author: | redmission | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 16:03 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I agree that someone who gets banned should be informed about why they are getting
banned. But as long as we are polite, stick to the topics, and don't pollute
the boards you shouldn't get banned. I can't imagine why anyone on here would
get banned for anything other than being extremely rude. We love Legos, and
this should be a fun place so we should all remember to be kind to other members,
sellers, and buyers.
In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, redmission writes:
| | I agree that someone who gets banned should be informed about why they are getting
banned. But as long as we are polite, stick to the topics, and don't pollute
the boards you shouldn't get banned. I can't imagine why anyone on here would
get banned for anything other than being extremely rude. We love Legos, and
this should be a fun place so we should all remember to be kind to other members,
sellers, and buyers.
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Forums generate disagreement at times. I see nothing wrong with that. It can
be fun at times. Some people just bring out the worse in others. Has always
been that way.
Here is one comment I got to day by e-mail:
"Hi John,
So sorry to see that you were banned from the forum. That's so strange, as your
posts are so supportive of Admin and BrickLink. And for being "snide"? Why you
of all people, and not the others who actually take their negativity to harmful
extremes? From what I see, your comments can be playfully sarcastic, but they've
never been venomously aggressive, as others have been.
Glad to see you back. I was wondering what happened to you."
Opinions vary quite a lot, even what constitutes bad behavior. Besides that
I was born snide. I told my mother on my birth "get on with it, it is time to
let me out, no more delays or complaining. Do you think it is fun in here without
any lights?"
John P
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 16:11 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | In Suggestions, redmission writes:
| | I agree that someone who gets banned should be informed about why they are getting
banned. But as long as we are polite, stick to the topics, and don't pollute
the boards you shouldn't get banned. I can't imagine why anyone on here would
get banned for anything other than being extremely rude. We love Legos, and
this should be a fun place so we should all remember to be kind to other members,
sellers, and buyers.
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Forums generate disagreement at times. I see nothing wrong with that. It can
be fun at times. Some people just bring out the worse in others. Has always
been that way.
Here is one comment I got to day by e-mail:
"Hi John,
So sorry to see that you were banned from the forum. That's so strange, as your
posts are so supportive of Admin and BrickLink. And for being "snide"? Why you
of all people, and not the others who actually take their negativity to harmful
extremes? From what I see, your comments can be playfully sarcastic, but they've
never been venomously aggressive, as others have been.
Glad to see you back. I was wondering what happened to you."
Opinions vary quite a lot, even what constitutes bad behavior. Besides that
I was born snide. I told my mother on my birth "get on with it, it is time to
let me out, no more delays or complaining. Do you think it is fun in here without
any lights?"
John P
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So when did you change your name from Snide to John?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | bb70466 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 16:31 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | Opinions vary quite a lot, even what constitutes bad behavior. Besides that
I was born snide. I told my mother on my birth "get on with it, it is time to
let me out, no more delays or complaining. Do you think it is fun in here without
any lights?"
John P
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and you've spent pretty much your entire life trying to get back in...
just like the rest of us dogs...
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| In Suggestions, okelnard writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | Opinions vary quite a lot, even what constitutes bad behavior. Besides that
I was born snide. I told my mother on my birth "get on with it, it is time to
let me out, no more delays or complaining. Do you think it is fun in here without
any lights?"
John P
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and you've spent pretty much your entire life trying to get back in...
just like the rest of us dogs...
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How very very true!
John P
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| | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I very much agree.
In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 19:15 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender.
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I definitely agree.
| | Not only this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that
person is banned.
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I definitely disagree.
| | I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons.
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Well, then I think the problem is much deeper than something that would be solved
by changing how people get banned. If that was happening, I would expect that
the issue would be brought to Troy's and Admin's attention. Clearly, any moderator
who would abuse their position in such a way should no longer be a moderator.
(I am absolutely NOT saying that anything like this actually happens. I have
no idea.)
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Marc.
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| | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 19:20 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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I would love mod banning me to tell me why too. Some people seem to interpet
it to publicly annuncing the rationale. John's suggestion dont seem to be that.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2011 19:21 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
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Oh missed that part. I don't agree to that part.
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| | | | | Author: | gcarter03 | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 18:32 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 132 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 18:41 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 137 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, gcarter03 writes:
| | Did I just time warp back to grade school?
Not sure what this all about but all of this makes us look like an immature group
of people.
What ever happened to "to each, his own" or "Live and let live"? If someone
says something meant to be offensive, I don't care, I move on.
Can we get back to selling and buying Lego now?
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You do realize that this was over 5 years ago? Things were a bit different then.
Also there is an off topic and other subjects in the forum that do not always
relate to selling. There were different things going on then and there are now....well
maybe not.
I do not know why this very old tread was reintroduced anyway.
John P
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | This is an honest suggestion and I am not being a whiner or being snide. I would
appreciate the powers that be at least consider this.
If banning is a punishment only then there is no reason to change. But banning
can be a teaching experience only. All of a sudden I found out I was banned
with no explanation until I asked. At least one of my cohorts in crime was not
answered when he asked and I consider this very rude.
It appears that banning is for punishment only and there is no proceeder to let
those that are banned know why.
I suggest that the reason for banning should be sent to the offender. Not only
this, post in the forum when someone is banned and the specific reason that person
is banned. Then all members of bricklink that read the forum will know why and
can learn from that and also not make the same mistakes the poster does. In
any organization teaching is far more important than punishment.
I also suggest that it would take two moderators to agree to ban someone. I
can see that a person that has the power to ban might do it for personal or business
reasons. I am not at all saying that happened in my case but it would prevent
that from ever happening. Banning interferes with running a store and selling
and if there could be personal reasons or lack of any kind of education as to
why is inappropriate two moderators might make it a bit more fair. Discussion
between mods might prevent an abuse of power.
In short educate not just punish.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 20:13 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 101 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| This is the oldest bump I've ever seen. 5-1/4 years!
In Suggestions, gcarter03 writes:
| | Did I just time warp back to grade school?
Not sure what this all about but all of this makes us look like an immature group
of people.
What ever happened to "to each, his own" or "Live and let live"? If someone
says something meant to be offensive, I don't care, I move on.
Can we get back to selling and buying Lego now?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | gcarter03 | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 22:24 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 120 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Regardless of how old this thread is, these sort of things give the perception
of Bricklinkers being immature as a whole.
As already stated once posted things don't die online, this thread is one
example of that (being over 5 years old and still here even though over 6 months
old is supposed to be purged).
There is still a lot of immaturity in forum even 5 years later. I rarely post
anymore because I don't want to contribute to the lack of maturity.
I love Bricklink. I want to see it grow and thrive even more than it is now.
Keep up the good work and build on.
In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | This is the oldest bump I've ever seen. 5-1/4 years!
In Suggestions, gcarter03 writes:
| | Did I just time warp back to grade school?
Not sure what this all about but all of this makes us look like an immature group
of people.
What ever happened to "to each, his own" or "Live and let live"? If someone
says something meant to be offensive, I don't care, I move on.
Can we get back to selling and buying Lego now?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Jan_K | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 04:47 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 124 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, gcarter03 writes:
| | Regardless of how old this thread is, these sort of things give the perception
of Bricklinkers being immature as a whole.
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| | As already stated once posted things don't die online, this thread is one
example of that (being over 5 years old and still here even though over 6 months
old is supposed to be purged).
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[This purge rule does not apply to post with the "Suggestions" topic.]
| | There is still a lot of immaturity in forum even 5 years later. I rarely post
anymore because I don't want to contribute to the lack of maturity.
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Believe it or not - with this post, you're doing exactly what you complain
about at the same time:
Publicly bashing the complete community is just as immature as the rest you seem
to have issues with.
Just sayin'...
Jan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | gcarter03 | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 18:21 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I respectfully disagree.
Having a different opinion than yours doesn't constitute being immature or
giving off the perception of being immature. Nor is it bashing. Name calling,
swearing, jumping to conclusions and such is immature and bashing.
Thank you for demonstrating why I choose to seldom post in forum. People will
often have an opinion different than yours, time to get used to it...just saying...
In Suggestions, Jan_K writes:
| | In Suggestions, gcarter03 writes:
| | Regardless of how old this thread is, these sort of things give the perception
of Bricklinkers being immature as a whole.
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| | As already stated once posted things don't die online, this thread is one
example of that (being over 5 years old and still here even though over 6 months
old is supposed to be purged).
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[This purge rule does not apply to post with the "Suggestions" topic.]
| | There is still a lot of immaturity in forum even 5 years later. I rarely post
anymore because I don't want to contribute to the lack of maturity.
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Believe it or not - with this post, you're doing exactly what you complain
about at the same time:
Publicly bashing the complete community is just as immature as the rest you seem
to have issues with.
Just sayin'...
Jan
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | ash_274 | | Posted: | May 24, 2016 17:24 | | Subject: | Re: Banned from forum | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | This is the oldest bump I've ever seen. 5-1/4 years!
In Suggestions, gcarter03 writes:
| | Did I just time warp back to grade school?
Not sure what this all about but all of this makes us look like an immature group
of people.
What ever happened to "to each, his own" or "Live and let live"? If someone
says something meant to be offensive, I don't care, I move on.
Can we get back to selling and buying Lego now?
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"Previously on AMC's The Walking Thread..."
-Ash
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| | | | | | | Author: | rikitikitaviguy | | Posted: | May 23, 2016 22:12 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Time to check the date of the messages eh?
LM
In Suggestions, gcarter03 writes:
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USA, Texas
United Kingdom, England
Germany, Sachsen-Anhalt
Belgium, Flemish Brabant
Netherlands, Friesland
Canada, Ontario
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
