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| | | Author: | eileenkeeney  | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 14:50 | | Subject: | It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 162 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| Showed everything the store had that was at the cheapest price on Bricklink.
When I am in gathering mode, this would be useful, and save me the time it takes
to go through my cart comparing each item to other stores.
I usually land in a store because it has the single item I was initially after
at the best price/qty.
But then I start seeing what else I might be able to use from the store.
Then I go compare everything I placed in my cart to other listings for the same
item.
This step could be eliminated if I can immediately see that this store has the
item at the lowest price.
I realize that anything that drives prices down, or pushes sales to the lower
priced items, is not necessarily of benefit to bricklink.
I am not sure I would implement this if I owned the site, as I see more benefit
to me as a buyer than to the site profits.
But maybe it would benefit the site.
This might get me to purchase stuff I might otherwise pass up, just because I
can immediately see that it is the best deal on the site.
Percent off sales have no effect on my deciding something is a good deal. I
do not care what the initial price was, I only care what the current price is,
and how that compares to other current prices and prices I might expect to see
in future listings (which is where price history effects my thinking).
(I am no good at debate, as I make an argument I start to see the merits of both
sides of the argument, and end up less sure than when I started debating. For
the same reason I would never make a good politician.)
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| | | | | Author: | poobaloo | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 14:55 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | Showed everything the store had that was at the cheapest price on Bricklink.
When I am in gathering mode, this would be useful, and save me the time it takes
to go through my cart comparing each item to other stores.
I usually land in a store because it has the single item I was initially after
at the best price/qty.
But then I start seeing what else I might be able to use from the store.
Then I go compare everything I placed in my cart to other listings for the same
item.
This step could be eliminated if I can immediately see that this store has the
item at the lowest price.
I realize that anything that drives prices down, or pushes sales to the lower
priced items, is not necessarily of benefit to bricklink.
I am not sure I would implement this if I owned the site, as I see more benefit
to me as a buyer than to the site profits.
But maybe it would benefit the site.
This might get me to purchase stuff I might otherwise pass up, just because I
can immediately see that it is the best deal on the site.
Percent off sales have no effect on my deciding something is a good deal. I
do not care what the initial price was, I only care what the current price is,
and how that compares to other current prices and prices I might expect to see
in future listings (which is where price history effects my thinking).
(I am no good at debate, as I make an argument I start to see the merits of both
sides of the argument, and end up less sure than when I started debating. For
the same reason I would never make a good politician.)
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WOW.
This would be interesting. I'll give it a yes.
I think it would lead to a lot of "ok I'll buy everything that is the cheapest
on BL just for the heck of it" cleanup sales. I would certainly use it. Tho
I'm not generally interested in purely the cheapest, I'm usually willing to "clean
out" anything that's say, cheapest +10% or so.
So perhaps give it a tolerance percentage.
Anything that drives people buying stuff they don't need is great for BL. This
is why grocery stores do BOGO, so you buy more than you need, now.
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| | | | | | | Author: | schlectus | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 15:05 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| One issue though: (playing devil's advocate here) I remember browsing for parts
awhile back, and I consistently saw 1 store with ludicrously cheap items. Problem
is, when I checked out his store terms, he liked to add in some weird "per lot"
fee that would've taken a calculus professor to figure out. Prices ended up
being waaaaaay high when it was all said and done. (He even said that he purposefully
did this so that his items would show up as the cheapest in searches)
So it's a good idea, but would require Bricklink to throw in all sorts of algorithmic
mumbo-jumbo, by adding in lot limits, shipping costs, packing fees, yadda yadda
yadda...I don't think a rewarding notation of "cheapest on Bricklink!" should
be there, if you have to pay a ton of extra cash to get those items.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | schlectus | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 15:07 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| LOL, just of thought of something almost funny...
"All parts priced at $0.00!! Cheapest on Bricklink!! (Additional $1 per part
fee applies to all orders.)"
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 16:44 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, schlectus writes:
| | One issue though: (playing devil's advocate here) I remember browsing for parts
awhile back, and I consistently saw 1 store with ludicrously cheap items. Problem
is, when I checked out his store terms, he liked to add in some weird "per lot"
fee that would've taken a calculus professor to figure out. Prices ended up
being waaaaaay high when it was all said and done. (He even said that he purposefully
did this so that his items would show up as the cheapest in searches)
So it's a good idea, but would require Bricklink to throw in all sorts of algorithmic
mumbo-jumbo, by adding in lot limits, shipping costs, packing fees, yadda yadda
yadda...I don't think a rewarding notation of "cheapest on Bricklink!" should
be there, if you have to pay a ton of extra cash to get those items.
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I thought bricklink already had all sorts of mumbo jumbo in the rules.
I would not make that part of the program, that would be up to the individual.
Since many of the terms are expressed as only text on a page, I think the complexity
of utilizing that data is more trouble than the benefit (and highly subject to
error).
However, a feature that allows one to set an ignore on particular sellers that
they find have terms that make things way more expensive, would be good.
(Do we already have something like this in our search criteria, there are a lot
of features there that I have never used.)
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 15:18 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, poobaloo writes:
| | Anything that drives people buying stuff they don't need is great for BL.
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Not if it removes something that someone else was willing to pay more for. This
feature will be used by many sellers to compete to have the lowest prices. So,
because other sellers are doing the same thing, they will lower their prices
so that more buyers can use this feature in their store. Thus, for example, this
feature might allow you to purchase part X for $0.10 which the seller previously
had listed for $0.12 and which would have eventually sold anyway for that $0.12
price, perhaps only a few hours or days later.
What this suggestion will do is simply shuffle sales from sellers who don't use
this feature to sellers who do use this feature. It won't increase the overall
number of sales on BrickLink. It just takes a sale away from the buyer who would
eventually pay $0.12 for an item and gives that sale to a buyer who more quickly
pays $0.10 for that item. In fact, by putting even more emphasis on having the
cheapest prices, it could mean less overall income (and fees) to BrickLink for
the same number of sales.
Patience people. List your goods at a fair price and they will eventually sell.
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 15:01 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I am sorry, but I must vote no to this suggestion. As you recognized, such a
feature may not benefit BrickLink because it would only add more downward pressure
on prices. From both a selling and buying point, it is not necessary to have
the lowest prices. People still buy from sellers who don't have the lowest prices.
So if one buyer passes up something because it is not the lowest price, another
buyer will buy it sooner or later. I don't see this feature giving BrickLink
more overall sales and, consequently, more fee income. Instead, I see it thinning
profit margins that are already thin.
Be careful what you ask for. BrickLink would not exist if everyone thought they
had to have the cheapest prices.
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 15:05 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | Showed everything the store had that was at the cheapest price on Bricklink.
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The cheapest isn't always the best deal.
I rather pay a higher price in the same store to get more items I do need
then all the cheapest items in a store with items I don't need.
| | When I am in gathering mode, this would be useful, and save me the time it takes
to go through my cart comparing each item to other stores.
I usually land in a store because it has the single item I was initially after
at the best price/qty.
But then I start seeing what else I might be able to use from the store.
Then I go compare everything I placed in my cart to other listings for the same
item.
This step could be eliminated if I can immediately see that this store has the
item at the lowest price.
I realize that anything that drives prices down, or pushes sales to the lower
priced items, is not necessarily of benefit to bricklink.
I am not sure I would implement this if I owned the site, as I see more benefit
to me as a buyer than to the site profits.
But maybe it would benefit the site.
This might get me to purchase stuff I might otherwise pass up, just because I
can immediately see that it is the best deal on the site.
Percent off sales have no effect on my deciding something is a good deal. I
do not care what the initial price was, I only care what the current price is,
and how that compares to other current prices and prices I might expect to see
in future listings (which is where price history effects my thinking).
(I am no good at debate, as I make an argument I start to see the merits of both
sides of the argument, and end up less sure than when I started debating. For
the same reason I would never make a good politician.)
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| | | | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 16:34 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | Showed everything the store had that was at the cheapest price on Bricklink.
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The cheapest isn't always the best deal.
I rather pay a higher price in the same store to get more items I do need
then all the cheapest items in a store with items I don't need.
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No one thinks cheapest is always best.
It is just data, that saves me a step when I am buying (where I go look for cheapest
and compare to what I am buying).
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| | | | | Author: | atrbricks | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2011 19:25 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | Showed everything the store had that was at the cheapest price on Bricklink.
When I am in gathering mode, this would be useful, and save me the time it takes
to go through my cart comparing each item to other stores.
I usually land in a store because it has the single item I was initially after
at the best price/qty.
But then I start seeing what else I might be able to use from the store.
Then I go compare everything I placed in my cart to other listings for the same
item.
This step could be eliminated if I can immediately see that this store has the
item at the lowest price.
I realize that anything that drives prices down, or pushes sales to the lower
priced items, is not necessarily of benefit to bricklink.
I am not sure I would implement this if I owned the site, as I see more benefit
to me as a buyer than to the site profits.
But maybe it would benefit the site.
This might get me to purchase stuff I might otherwise pass up, just because I
can immediately see that it is the best deal on the site.
Percent off sales have no effect on my deciding something is a good deal. I
do not care what the initial price was, I only care what the current price is,
and how that compares to other current prices and prices I might expect to see
in future listings (which is where price history effects my thinking).
(I am no good at debate, as I make an argument I start to see the merits of both
sides of the argument, and end up less sure than when I started debating. For
the same reason I would never make a good politician.)
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I voted no. I have just recently been able to raise my prices from the bottom
and still get sales. It's nice now not to be selling everything at the lowest
price. Being in competition for the lowest prices on BL is only fun when you
are trying to build feedback and reputation, after that it is a lose lose situtation.
There is very little money for small stores to make at the bottom of the price
guide.
Katie
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| | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2011 23:41 | | Subject: | Re: It would be cool to have a function that ... | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | Showed everything the store had that was at the cheapest price on Bricklink.
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I understand the desire for such a feature, and I also understand why it may
not be a great idea to implement it.
When I've decided to buy something from a store, I usually browse through various
categories to see if there are any "great deal" items which I wouldn't normally
buy, but can't pass up as a potential item to re-sell at a profit. Ideally for
me, this would be implemented as a way of sorting the lots in the store -- sort
by difference compared to 6-mo sales average.
As a seller, though, I don't really want BrickLink to have a function that tells
my buyers which items in my store are a good deal and which ones aren't. There
are some parts that I deliberately price well-above the sales average (one example:
uncommon items which are within my store's specialty. I know that I can sell
Bionicle parts at higher than the 6-month sales average, because I have a relatively
large Bionicle selection. It makes more sense to pay 20 or 30% more at my store
for those parts than it does to order from three or four other stores.)
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Marc.
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