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When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.
 Author: OldBrixAndMore View Messages Posted By OldBrixAndMore
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In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

never change a running system

Greets
Pierre
 Author: Rob_and_Shelagh View Messages Posted By Rob_and_Shelagh
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In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

Voted no, too confusing a change and the cent is not a currency, it is a unit
within a currency so I do not think this would be correct.

At least we work in decimals now, think how confusing it would have been for
international buyers if Brits priced in Schillings

Robert
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

Voted no, too confusing a change and the cent is not a currency, it is a unit
within a currency so I do not think this would be correct.

At least we work in decimals now, think how confusing it would have been for
international buyers if Brits priced in Schillings

Awright, guv. Tha'll be five-bob-six and four pence.

Eh... wha...?
  
Robert
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In Suggestions, redbeardlegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

Voted no, too confusing a change and the cent is not a currency, it is a unit
within a currency so I do not think this would be correct.

At least we work in decimals now, think how confusing it would have been for
international buyers if Brits priced in Schillings

Awright, guv. Tha'll be five-bob-six and four pence.

Eh... wha...?
  
Robert

Exactly!

I can "just" remember that stuff, we changed to decimal back in 1971. I think
if we hadn't we would certainly not have been well prepared for the internet
age.

Robert
 Author: redbeardlegoman View Messages Posted By redbeardlegoman
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, redbeardlegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

Voted no, too confusing a change and the cent is not a currency, it is a unit
within a currency so I do not think this would be correct.

At least we work in decimals now, think how confusing it would have been for
international buyers if Brits priced in Schillings

Awright, guv. Tha'll be five-bob-six and four pence.

Eh... wha...?
  
Robert

Exactly!

I can "just" remember that stuff, we changed to decimal back in 1971. I think
if we hadn't we would certainly not have been well prepared for the internet
age.

Robert

I only know it from Terry Pratchett and from growing up watching British television
in Canada. I remember Mr. Spooner and Mr. Granger talking about when gin was
five-and-six a bottle. Canada went metric before I was born.
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In Suggestions, redbeardlegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, redbeardlegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

Voted no, too confusing a change and the cent is not a currency, it is a unit
within a currency so I do not think this would be correct.

At least we work in decimals now, think how confusing it would have been for
international buyers if Brits priced in Schillings

Awright, guv. Tha'll be five-bob-six and four pence.

Eh... wha...?
  
Robert

Exactly!

I can "just" remember that stuff, we changed to decimal back in 1971. I think
if we hadn't we would certainly not have been well prepared for the internet
age.

Robert

I only know it from Terry Pratchett and from growing up watching British television
in Canada. I remember Mr. Spooner and Mr. Granger talking about when gin was
five-and-six a bottle. Canada went metric before I was born.

LOL, that would be GBP 0.275! Now about GBP 9.00 (or more) so that is quite some
inflation.

Robert
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  Robert

"NOTE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND AMERICANS: One shilling = Five Pee. It helps to understand
the antique finances of the Witchfinder Army if you know the original British
monetary system:

Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny
Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob
= A Florin. One Florin and one Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten
Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies). One Pound and One Shilling
= One Guinea.

The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought
it was too complicated."

Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, Good Omens
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In Suggestions, redbeardlegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:

snip

  Robert

"NOTE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND AMERICANS: One shilling = Five Pee. It helps to understand
the antique finances of the Witchfinder Army if you know the original British
monetary system:

Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny
Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob
= A Florin. One Florin and one Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten
Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies). One Pound and One Shilling
= One Guinea.

The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought
it was too complicated."

Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

Thanks for posting this because I was born in 1970, and I do remember seeing
things like a very large bag of sweets for 10p!
and, as time went on, when I reached my pre-teens, I left LEGO behind as my family
couldn't afford to buy it, I went into Model kits, and I recall buying a Matchbox
Sherman Firefly for 86p!...
Of course, I wish I had kept all those kits unmade in their original boxes...
sigh!

Paul
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"NOTE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND AMERICANS: One shilling = Five Pee. It helps to understand
the antique finances of the Witchfinder Army if you know the original British
monetary system:

Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny
Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob
= A Florin. One Florin and one Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten
Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies). One Pound and One Shilling
= One Guinea.

You left out 'Groats'(Four Pennies) and 'Angels'(Six Shillings and Eight Pennies),

also coins for Half Groats, Crowns, Unites, Half and Full Sovereigns, Half and
Double Guineas.
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In Suggestions, redbeardlegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:

snip

  Robert

"NOTE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND AMERICANS: One shilling = Five Pee. It helps to understand
the antique finances of the Witchfinder Army if you know the original British
monetary system:

Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny
Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob
= A Florin. One Florin and one Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten
Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies). One Pound and One Shilling
= One Guinea.

The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought
it was too complicated."

Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

Wow... I knew the old money system was complicated but this seems like a nightmare.
I bet the younger people aresaying the current decimal system is easier.
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I knew there were a couple more that I forgot

Spur Ryal (Fifteen Shillings) and Rose Ryal (Thirty Shillings)

Leopard (Six Shillings) and Half Leopard.

Now of course Scotland had a complete seperate system of their own which used
some of the same names for different values...
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In Suggestions, beardurham writes:
  I knew there were a couple more that I forgot

Spur Ryal (Fifteen Shillings) and Rose Ryal (Thirty Shillings)

Leopard (Six Shillings) and Half Leopard.

Did the Half Leopard have dots only on one side?
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In Suggestions, beardurham writes:
  Now of course Scotland had a complete seperate system of their own which used
some of the same names for different values...

LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AnYJR4ImjY
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
... think how confusing it would have been for international buyers if Brits
priced in Schillings Robert


Schillings!!! Even I can only remember back to Shillings Rob!!

What´s the going BL Exchange rate for a Cow*** these days??

The shilling is a unit of currency used in some current and former British
Commonwealth countries. The word shilling comes from schilling, an accounting
term that dates back to Anglo-Saxon times where it was deemed to be the value
of a cow*** in Kent or a sheep elsewhere.
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In Suggestions, exile_31 writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
... think how confusing it would have been for international buyers if Brits
priced in Schillings Robert


Schillings!!! Even I can only remember back to Shillings Rob!!

What´s the going BL Exchange rate for a Cow*** these days??

The shilling is a unit of currency used in some current and former British
Commonwealth countries. The word shilling comes from schilling, an accounting
term that dates back to Anglo-Saxon times where it was deemed to be the value
of a cow*** in Kent or a sheep elsewhere.


You should know Paul that in Northumberland wealth is measured in sheep not cows
but I think it is something like 1 cow = 6 sheep.

We have no sheep, hence selling LEGO

Robert
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, exile_31 writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
... think how confusing it would have been for international buyers if Brits
priced in Schillings Robert


Schillings!!! Even I can only remember back to Shillings Rob!!

What´s the going BL Exchange rate for a Cow*** these days??

The shilling is a unit of currency used in some current and former British
Commonwealth countries. The word shilling comes from schilling, an accounting
term that dates back to Anglo-Saxon times where it was deemed to be the value
of a cow*** in Kent or a sheep elsewhere.


You should know Paul that in Northumberland wealth is measured in sheep not cows
but I think it is something like 1 cow = 6 sheep.

We have no sheep, hence selling LEGO

Robert

All is now clear Robert - thank you. (Exchange rate seems about right for the
time of year!!) It was however the word FARM in the title that caused the initial
confusion!!

Would have responded sooner but have been out ´tending to my flock!!

Paul.
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In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

I fail to see how that would actually make things easier. In fact, since people
are used to working in dollars and Euros, if anything, it will make things less
sensible.

Besides, is there some global zero shortage that I haven't caught on the news?
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In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

Sorry, no.
This willcomplicate not simplify.
Stuart
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In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

In your purposed system, what would happen if I bought 1500 parts that cost $0.004
each?
 Author: BLUSER_106751 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_106751
 Posted: Sep 22, 2010 12:35
 Subject: Re: Allow cents as a currency instead of $/EUR
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In Suggestions, BrickMick writes:
  In Suggestions, Peter34_DK writes:
  When buying individual bricks, as opposed to sets, and almost certainly also
when selling individual bricks, it would be much more convenient to work with
cents instead of dollars.

Many individual bricks are sold for prices like $0.02 or $0.03. All those zeroes!
Even worse, sometimes bricks are sold cheap, for like $0.004, which at-a-glance
is non-trivial to distinguish from $0.04.

Even if cents (dollar-cents and euro-cents) are implemented as currency that
can be chosen in the interface (for buyers, and for sellers), there will still
be decimals used, for instance som bricks sell for $0.015 which is the same as
1.5 cents. But it'll stil be easier for those of us who buy indvidual bricks
and have no interest in sets.

In your purposed system, what would happen if I bought 1500 parts that cost $0.004
each?

To be strictly accurate I think under the ˝proposed˝ system the price would not
be $0.004 but in fact 0.4cents and you would owe 600 cents!

So No - maybe not a great plan!!

Paul.