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 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 22:55
 Subject: Re: found wrong category
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, FloathBricks writes:
  Hello everybody,

Hope the post is right here. I found an article that is listed in the wrong category:

3626cpb2423 is listed under "Mini Doll, Head". Should actually under "Minifigure,
Head"

Greetings
Florian

Interesting. Why can printed versions of parts even have different categories
than their parent part? Is there even a case where that is needed? I can think
of one case: 2 x 2 x 2 Slopes with dress prints could go under Minifig,Bodypart
(or better: change the "legs assembly" category in "lower body" and move all
short legs, mermaid tails and ghost lower bodies there too). But even in this
case, those parts are simply "slope".

So if printed parts never even have a different category than their parent part,
why is it apparently needed that these parts are assigned a category manually?
It's just extra work and extra risk of error. In my own webshop's catalog,
the data of the non printed parent part is used as much as possible. That saved
me a whole lot of work.

Check out
 
Part No: 90398  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Statuette / Trophy
* 
90398 Minifigure, Utensil Statuette / Trophy
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
and its printed versions.

Niek.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 16:51
 Subject: Re: Part that I can't found
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Part No: 87944  Name: Air Blast Launcher Receiver (Racers)
* 
87944 Air Blast Launcher Receiver (Racers)
Parts: Vehicle





In Catalog, ziddi writes:
  Hello,
does someone know what is the part on the picture? can't find it.
 Author: ziddi View Messages Posted By ziddi
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 16:08
 Subject: Part that I can't found
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Hello,
does someone know what is the part on the picture? can't find it.
 
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 15:04
 Subject: Re: found wrong category
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, FloathBricks writes:
  Hello everybody,

Hope the post is right here. I found an article that is listed in the wrong category:

3626cpb2423 is listed under "Mini Doll, Head". Should actually under "Minifigure,
Head"

Greetings
Florian

Interesting. Why can printed versions of parts even have different categories
than their parent part? Is there even a case where that is needed? I can think
of one case: 2 x 2 x 2 Slopes with dress prints could go under Minifig,Bodypart
(or better: change the "legs assembly" category in "lower body" and move all
short legs, mermaid tails and ghost lower bodies there too). But even in this
case, those parts are simply "slope".

So if printed parts never even have a different category than their parent part,
why is it apparently needed that these parts are assigned a category manually?
It's just extra work and extra risk of error. In my own webshop's catalog,
the data of the non printed parent part is used as much as possible. That saved
me a whole lot of work.

The BL database does not 'know' about parent parts. This is something
that we as users understand by trimming the part number, but in the underlying
database, there is no such relation between P=3626cpb2423 and P=3626c. For the
database engine, these are just two unrelated records that happen to be near
each other in alphabetical order. Therefore, the category field is to be filled
separately with every item.

There is a relation in the database that relates P=3626c to P=3626a and P=3626b,
but that is not the relation you seek right now.

With the current database, this functionality of automatically linking categories
to the category of the parent part, is (a little) harder to build. However, it
would have unintended consequences: A quick selection in Excel learns that of
the 40K decorated part, 11K have the same category as their 'parent'
part, 24K have not, and 5K have no parent part defined in the database. This
is mostly because there is a separate category for decorated, but there are more
examples.

Hans-Peter
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 13:00
 Subject: Re: found wrong category
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  […]
So if printed parts never even have a different category than their parent part,
why is it apparently needed that these parts are assigned a category manually? […]

There are lots of reasons why something isn’t automatized. The main ones are:
1. You have to realize it’s stupid work.
2. “You can automatize that?!” The users don’t even know they can ask for it
to be done.
3. And, of course, “there’s something else more urgent to do.”

You thought about it because you’re lazy (in a good way ) and you needed to
do the job yourself.

You're probably right, a lot if this may have to do with the fact that catalog
work is unpaid work for Bricklink. Why waste time on making something that's
free less work?
 Author: Brickych View Messages Posted By Brickych
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 12:23
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 9466-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 9466  Name: The Crazy Scientist & His Monster
* 
9466-1 (Inv) The Crazy Scientist & His Monster
414 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2012
Sets: Monster Fighters

* Add 1 Part 2431pb599 Dark Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 4 with 'AC9466' License Plate Pattern (Sticker) - Set 9466 (Counterpart)
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 12:05
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 76086-1
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In Inventories Requests, Ladyhawke74 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 76086  Name: Knightcrawler Tunnel Attack
* 
76086-1 (Inv) Knightcrawler Tunnel Attack
602 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: Super Heroes: Justice League

* Add 1 Part 3068bpb1040 Black Tile 2 x 2 with Groove with Silver Batman Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 76046

Please move this part to counterparts section
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:59
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  […]
So if printed parts never even have a different category than their parent part,
why is it apparently needed that these parts are assigned a category manually? […]

There are lots of reasons why something isn’t automatized. The main ones are:
1. You have to realize it’s stupid work.
2. “You can automatize that?!” The users don’t even know they can ask for it
to be done.
3. And, of course, “there’s something else more urgent to do.”

You thought about it because you’re lazy (in a good way ) and you needed to
do the job yourself.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:57
 Subject: Re: found wrong category
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In Catalog, FloathBricks writes:
  Hello everybody,

Hope the post is right here. I found an article that is listed in the wrong category:

3626cpb2423 is listed under "Mini Doll, Head". Should actually under "Minifigure,
Head"

Greetings
Florian

 
Part No: 3626cpb2423  Name: Minifigure, Head Medium Azure Ice Beard, Eyebrows and Gills Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb2423 Minifigure, Head Medium Azure Ice Beard, Eyebrows and Gills Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:55
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, FloathBricks writes:
  Hello everybody,

Hope the post is right here. I found an article that is listed in the wrong category:

3626cpb2423 is listed under "Mini Doll, Head". Should actually under "Minifigure,
Head"

Greetings
Florian

Interesting. Why can printed versions of parts even have different categories
than their parent part? Is there even a case where that is needed? I can think
of one case: 2 x 2 x 2 Slopes with dress prints could go under Minifig,Bodypart
(or better: change the "legs assembly" category in "lower body" and move all
short legs, mermaid tails and ghost lower bodies there too). But even in this
case, those parts are simply "slope".

So if printed parts never even have a different category than their parent part,
why is it apparently needed that these parts are assigned a category manually?
It's just extra work and extra risk of error. In my own webshop's catalog,
the data of the non printed parent part is used as much as possible. That saved
me a whole lot of work.

This is why goatleg exists - the flatness of the Bricklink catalog makes it difficult
to find decorated parts because they are all thrown into one jumbled category
at the same level as undecorated parts. If the Bricklink catalog were arranged
with true categories and subcategories that move from the general to the specific,
then decorated parts would be subcategories of their undecorated versions and
would be much easier to find.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:48
 Subject: Re: found wrong category
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
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(or better: change the "legs assembly" category in "lower body" and move all
short legs, mermaid tails and ghost lower bodies there too) […]

Yes, please.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:47
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 10733-1
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In Inventories Requests, Petar_416 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Petar_416 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10733  Name: Mater's Junkyard
* 
10733-1 (Inv) Mater's Junkyard
25 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2017
Sets: Juniors: Cars: Cars 3

* Add 1 Part 30386 Reddish Brown Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger Vertical End and 2 Fingers Vertical End

Comments from Submitter:
Part is missing in the list.

This part is included in the minifigure inventory for
 
Minifig No: crs016  Name: Tow Mater - Hinges Boom
* 
crs016 (Inv) Tow Mater - Hinges Boom
Minifigures: Cars: Cars 3

I think it would be logical to have that part listed in the main list and not
buried in some alternative list.

Use function "Break minifigs" then you will have every part from minifigs in
the main list.
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:40
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7942-1
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In Inventories Requests, Petar_416 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Petar_416 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7942  Name: Off Road Fire Rescue
* 
7942-1 (Inv) Off Road Fire Rescue
127 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2007
Sets: Town: City: Fire

* Delete 1 Part 3730 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Towball Socket, Short, 4 Slots (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part 63082 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Towball Socket, Short, Flattened with Holes and Axle Hole in Center

This part is already included in the alternate items section of the inventory.

I think it would be correct if 63082 part is in the list and then 3730 is in
the alternative list. Take a look at instructions for 7942 set and you will see
that 62082 part is there listed.

Hi

As you know there are 2 versions.
It would be fine if the first release parts are in the inventory, other parts
in the alternate section.
https://www.lego.com/biassets/bi/4502939.pdf
https://www.lego.com/biassets/bi/4586971.pdf

There are a lot of differences between the 1ste and 2nd release. Maybe put all
parts used for the 2nd but not for the 1st in the MID '99'. (as there
are already parts in for the MID 99 in this set)


Stefaan
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:38
 Subject: Re: found wrong category
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In Catalog, FloathBricks writes:
  Hello everybody,

Hope the post is right here. I found an article that is listed in the wrong category:

3626cpb2423 is listed under "Mini Doll, Head". Should actually under "Minifigure,
Head"

Greetings
Florian

Interesting. Why can printed versions of parts even have different categories
than their parent part? Is there even a case where that is needed? I can think
of one case: 2 x 2 x 2 Slopes with dress prints could go under Minifig,Bodypart
(or better: change the "legs assembly" category in "lower body" and move all
short legs, mermaid tails and ghost lower bodies there too). But even in this
case, those parts are simply "slope".

So if printed parts never even have a different category than their parent part,
why is it apparently needed that these parts are assigned a category manually?
It's just extra work and extra risk of error. In my own webshop's catalog,
the data of the non printed parent part is used as much as possible. That saved
me a whole lot of work.
 Author: Petar_416 View Messages Posted By Petar_416
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:32
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 10733-1
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In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Petar_416 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10733  Name: Mater's Junkyard
* 
10733-1 (Inv) Mater's Junkyard
25 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2017
Sets: Juniors: Cars: Cars 3

* Add 1 Part 30386 Reddish Brown Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger Vertical End and 2 Fingers Vertical End

Comments from Submitter:
Part is missing in the list.

This part is included in the minifigure inventory for
 
Minifig No: crs016  Name: Tow Mater - Hinges Boom
* 
crs016 (Inv) Tow Mater - Hinges Boom
Minifigures: Cars: Cars 3

I think it would be logical to have that part listed in the main list and not
buried in some alternative list.
 Author: Petar_416 View Messages Posted By Petar_416
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:27
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7942-1
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In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Petar_416 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7942  Name: Off Road Fire Rescue
* 
7942-1 (Inv) Off Road Fire Rescue
127 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2007
Sets: Town: City: Fire

* Delete 1 Part 3730 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Towball Socket, Short, 4 Slots (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part 63082 Light Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Towball Socket, Short, Flattened with Holes and Axle Hole in Center

This part is already included in the alternate items section of the inventory.

I think it would be correct if 63082 part is in the list and then 3730 is in
the alternative list. Take a look at instructions for 7942 set and you will see
that 62082 part is there listed.
 Author: samsam2 View Messages Posted By samsam2
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 11:15
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7621-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7621  Name: Indiana Jones and the Lost Tomb
* 
7621-1 (Inv) Indiana Jones and the Lost Tomb
263 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Ark

* Add 1 Part BA13pb02 Dark Tan Stickered Assembly 2 x 4 with R2-D2 and C-3PO on Dark Tan Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7621 - 2 Tiles 2 x 2 (Counterpart)
 Author: SteinchendeaIer View Messages Posted By SteinchendeaIer
 Posted: Sep 7, 2019 10:24
 Subject: found wrong category
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Hello everybody,

Hope the post is right here. I found an article that is listed in the wrong category:

3626cpb2423 is listed under "Mini Doll, Head". Should actually under "Minifigure,
Head"

Greetings
Florian