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 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 20:35
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  
  
We definitely could have talked about it on the catalog panel if the catalog
panel had EVER been consulted about this.

The catalog panel was informed of this merge project months before it was announced
publicly. But the purpose of the panel is to bring community voice to the development
team, not contribute to catalog policy.


Unless there was a meeting I missed somehow, I do not recollect that we were
informed of this project or asked to give any input or suggestions. There was
a brief mention that there was a variant project but no details or timetables
were ever given. Considering that many people on the Panel were among those who
expressed surprise and dismay when this was all introduced, I would think that
those meetings would indeed have been an ideal place to breach the subject with
the members at large.

The only thing I recollect is talking about the need to tackle the variants on
the catalog, but nothing specific, I must have missed it too.

  
  We do address catalog policy when it comes up, but it's definitely a sideline
issue, as are all issues that relate to other BrickLink teams, like Marketplace
and Studio. Panel meetings are not the place to debate proposed variant merges.
The Forum is, and there was plenty of debate and even opportunity for more debate.

Perhaps it was not the place to discuss the exact specifics of each part being
looked at. But it would have been good to know how the project would be introduced
and carried out. We are supposed to be looking out for the community and sharing
out expertise after all.

Thanks,
~Jen


He only claims that we were informed of the project and that is the truth. We
were told that it existed.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 17, 2024 05:43
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
The important thing moving forward, though, is that no
  one is going to keep investing in that handful of variants that we removed.

This is a serious understatement. From now until I don't know when, I'm
not investing in any of the variants.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 16, 2024 20:59
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Dhobeck writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, rickcraine writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

I didn't realize 32064b was on the chopping block.

Wasn't there that whole controversy with that guy who claimed to have used
it in a "moc on top of a stud so therefore it was useful" even though
it cannot fit on top of a stud

32064b could go on a hollow stud. I would have spoken up on it, but I didn't
realize it was on the block.

We definitely could have talked about it on the catalog panel if the catalog
panel had EVER been consulted about this.

There went a double handful of my catalog work and all the give-a-darn that I
had stockpiled. I think I'll go touch grass and see if it is everything
people talk it up to be.

This minifigure seems fine after touching it

I brought some in and set it on my desk. I really don't know what all the
fuss is about. It's like a long skinny leaf?
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 16, 2024 20:58
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure dp095
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In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Yes

Yeah. Maybe. Not. Anymore.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 16, 2024 20:48
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, rickcraine writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

I didn't realize 32064b was on the chopping block.

Wasn't there that whole controversy with that guy who claimed to have used
it in a "moc on top of a stud so therefore it was useful" even though
it cannot fit on top of a stud

32064b could go on a hollow stud. I would have spoken up on it, but I didn't
realize it was on the block.

We definitely could have talked about it on the catalog panel if the catalog
panel had EVER been consulted about this.

There went a double handful of my catalog work and all the give-a-darn that I
had stockpiled. I think I'll go touch grass and see if it is everything
people talk it up to be.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 16, 2024 20:34
 Subject: Re: Variants Thread - April 16
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,

I thought it would be good to give people an update on the variant project. As
of now, everything we announced would change in this post:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1454437

has been completed, EXCEPT the decorated minifigure heads and new Help pages.

Link for the overview:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2625

Scheduled completion date is still the end of May.

I didn't realize 32064b was on the chopping block.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 16, 2024 09:29
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure dp095
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Yes
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 14, 2024 22:08
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure sp006
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In Inventories Requests, peregrinator writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Please add 193b2 as alternate item. I can’t do that from my side :/

Minifigures can't have alternates.

Also, while I've never seen a white helmet without dimples that doesn't
mean it doesn't exist. Used to have some yellow ones.

Would you like to?

 
Part No: 193b1  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples
* 
193b1 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Thick Chin Strap - without Visor Dimples
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear {White}
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 14, 2024 20:54
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure sp006
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In Inventories Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: sp006  Name: Classic Space - White with Air Tanks
* 
sp006 (Inv) Classic Space - White with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space

* Delete 1 Part 193au White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Thin Chin Strap (Undetermined Type)
* Add 1 Part 193a2 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Thin Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples
* Add 1 Part 193b2 White Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Thick Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples

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Please add 193b2 as alternate item. I can’t do that from my side :/

That isn't how it works!

This guy probably perpetually has to stay on the undetermined listing unless
he is someday split. He is in 37 sets and almost certainly came with more than
one type of helmet, but when you part out a set you don't know which you
will get.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 14, 2024 20:53
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure dp095
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In Inventories Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: dp095  Name: Cinderella - Dress with Stars and Bow (Undetermined Hinge)
* 
dp095 Cinderella - Dress with Stars and Bow (Undetermined Hinge)
Minifigures: Disney: Disney Princess: Cinderella
Marked for Deletion

* Delete 1 Part 15875c00pb031 Bright Light Blue Mini Doll Hips and Skirt Full Length with Metallic Light Blue Bow and Silver Sparkles with Light Aqua Insert Pattern - Undetermined Hinge
* Add 1 Part 36187c00pb003 Bright Light Blue Mini Doll Hips and Skirt Full Length with Metallic Light Blue Bow and Silver Sparkles with Light Aqua Insert Pattern - Thin Hinge

Comments from Submitter:
As you can see in the picture it is clearly the thin variant.

That isn't how it works. That is the undetermined entry and has the picture
that it had when we realized it needed to be split. That picture is almost certainly
not from one of the foil packs.

I have the foil packs in a shopping cart and I am waiting for my sales tax waiver
to be approved.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 10, 2024 22:28
 Subject: Re: Merge alarm clocks
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In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Please merge,
[G=LG11006]
[G=LG11009]
 
Gear No: LG11000  Name: Alarm Clock Radio
* 
LG11000 Alarm Clock Radio
Gear: Clock
into one entry, with diffent colour options.

Reason, all item are the same, only difference is colour.

They have different part numbers.

BL has ignored stuff like this before because it’s not worth the hassle.

But if you want to keep item numbers just add them as alternates.

On closer inspection it is more than that. We don't have pictures of them
in box, but these listings are actually for Gear Sets. Those numbers are not
part numbers. They are product IDs.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 10, 2024 20:32
 Subject: Re: Merge alarm clocks
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In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Please merge,
[G=LG11006]
[G=LG11009]
 
Gear No: LG11000  Name: Alarm Clock Radio
* 
LG11000 Alarm Clock Radio
Gear: Clock
into one entry, with diffent colour options.

Reason, all item are the same, only difference is colour.

They have different part numbers.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 9, 2024 23:29
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60098-1
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In Inventories Requests, 1001bricks writes:
  After this many vids you've watched, you didn't get the sensation your
brain like melted down in your shoes???

This is close to heroic!

This may be the main way to do it going forward. Who wants to shell out $300
bucks to answer a question that management may erase a year later?
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 9, 2024 19:15
 Subject: Re: Item names cut off
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In Catalog Identification, joshbeagrie writes:
presumably
  after "with groove" was removed.

That's what the change log shows. Sloppy copy and pasting.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 21:49
 Subject: Re: what was your first LEGO set?
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Set No: 1545  Name: McDonald's Super Travelers #4 Race Car polybag
* 
1545-2 (Inv) McDonald's Super Travelers #4 Race Car polybag
17 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Race
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 16:43
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure oct006
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: oct006  Name: Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, White Helmet, Black Visor, Life Jacket
* 
oct006 (Inv) Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, White Helmet, Black Visor, Life Jacket
Minifigures: Town: Classic Town

* Change 1 Part Blue {973pb0106c01 Torso Octan Logo and 'OIL' Pattern (Undetermined Type) / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands to 973pb4275c01 Torso Octan Logo and Italic Font 'OIL' Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands}

Comments from Submitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DemIdzK2xNE

7:22

I will make a pic of him soon.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 09:46
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure oct060
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: oct060  Name: Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Black Cap, Smirk and Stubble Beard
* 
oct060 (Inv) Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Black Cap, Smirk and Stubble Beard
Minifigures: Town: City: Gas Station

* Change 1 Part Blue {973pb0106c01 Torso Octan Logo and 'OIL' Pattern (Undetermined Type) / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands to 973pb4274c01 Torso Octan Logo and Upright Font 'OIL' Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands}

Comments from Submitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlcIN0SW-OA

0:39

I will make a new picture of him soon
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 08:43
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure oct054
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: oct054  Name: Octan - Blue Oil, White Legs, Blue Short Bill Cap
* 
oct054 (Inv) Octan - Blue Oil, White Legs, Blue Short Bill Cap
Minifigures: Town: City: Gas Station

* Change 1 Part Blue {973pb0106c01 Torso Octan Logo and 'OIL' Pattern (Undetermined Type) / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands to 973pb4274c01 Torso Octan Logo and Upright Font 'OIL' Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands}

Comments from Submitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1QLI4o92cc

0:29
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 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 08:32
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure oct069
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: oct069  Name: Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Dark Red Short Bill Cap, Crooked Smile
* 
oct069 (Inv) Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Dark Red Short Bill Cap, Crooked Smile
Minifigures: Town: City

* Change 1 Part Blue {973pb0106c01 Torso Octan Logo and 'OIL' Pattern (Undetermined Type) / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands to 973pb4274c01 Torso Octan Logo and Upright Font 'OIL' Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands}

Comments from Submitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOE7T6FHaQk

1:28
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 08:14
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure oct064
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: oct064  Name: Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Red Short Bill Cap, Smirk and Stubble Beard
* 
oct064 (Inv) Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Red Short Bill Cap, Smirk and Stubble Beard
Minifigures: Town: City: Harbor

* Change 1 Part Blue {973pb0106c01 Torso Octan Logo and 'OIL' Pattern (Undetermined Type) / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands to 973pb4274c01 Torso Octan Logo and Upright Font 'OIL' Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands}

Comments from Submitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmw920bPaFI

I will take a new picture of this guy soon.
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 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 08:13
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure oct065
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: oct065  Name: Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Red Short Bill Cap, Open Grin
* 
oct065 (Inv) Octan - Blue Oil, Blue Legs, Red Short Bill Cap, Open Grin
Minifigures: Town: City: Harbor

* Change 1 Part Blue {973pb0106c01 Torso Octan Logo and 'OIL' Pattern (Undetermined Type) / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands to 973pb4274c01 Torso Octan Logo and Upright Font 'OIL' Pattern / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands}

Comments from Submitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmw920bPaFI
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 7, 2024 07:57
 Subject: Re: Question about Undetermined as alternates
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It happens when a part isn't split properly. The new variant enters the
catalog and the old one is not marked undetermined and the partner specific piece
isn't created. Often you can figure out what happened specifically to a
set by looking at when it was inventoried and when the variant was added to the
catalog and when the other got named undetermined.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 6, 2024 09:29
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6654-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6654  Name: Motorcycle Transport
* 
6654-1 (Inv) Motorcycle Transport
40 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1983
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Traffic

* Add 1 Part 193a2 Blue Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Thin Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 1)

Comments from Submitter:
My sealed set has thin chinstrap

What is the catalog inside your box? I wonder if it is from 1984 (most likely)
or 1985 (possible but less likely).

1983 Mini Overseas (119385 IB/OS)
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 4, 2024 09:13
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifigure cas355
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, JeffJeff writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: cas355  Name: Fantasy Era - Dwarf, Dark Brown Beard, Copper Helmet with Studded Bands, Sand Blue Arms, Vertical Cheek Lines
* 
cas355 (Inv) Fantasy Era - Dwarf, Dark Brown Beard, Copper Helmet with Studded Bands, Sand Blue Arms, Vertical Cheek Lines
Minifigures: Castle: Fantasy Era

* Add 1 Part 60748 Reddish Brown Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)

Comments from Submitter:
The set this minifig comes from seems to have had 2 releases, one with Metallic Copper axes and dwarf helmet (on this minifig) and the other with reddish brown axes and helmet. The axes are catalogued in the Alternate Items section but the helmet isn't.

I have been rebuilding some of my older sets and I only have a reddish brown helmet which could only come from this set, and the axes being in 2 different colour seems to confirm this theory.


A new minifigure with the alternate helmet would need to be added to the catalog
to take care of this since minifigure inventories cannot have alternates.

Cheers,
Randy

I ordered the hat.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 3, 2024 22:01
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6654-1
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In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6654  Name: Motorcycle Transport
* 
6654-1 (Inv) Motorcycle Transport
40 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1983
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Traffic

* Add 1 Part 193a2 Blue Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Thin Chin Strap - with Visor Dimples (Alternate) (match ID 1)

Comments from Submitter:
My sealed set has thin chinstrap
 

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