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 Author: RebelliousBrick View Messages Posted By RebelliousBrick
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 18:11
 Subject: Re: Messages and Orders purged!
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In Problem Order, vrod2000 writes:
  Can anyone help?

After 6 months of not getting my money back for a refused international package.
(shipping was 50% higher than quoted, so I sent the package back)

Why did you pay once you saw the shipping was higher than quoted?

  
The seller (Oasis in South Carolina) refused to refund my money until the package
came back to him. There is no detailed tracking on return packages, but it shows
that it came into the USA on October 28th.

He told me that it could take 6 months for it to come back. Since it is almost
6 months, I want to check back with him.

He told you 6 months because that is the cutoff point for PayPal to file a
dispute!


  
All of my prior orders are gone and so are my old messages.

Orders & messages are purged after 6 months

  
I was able to download the order (without much details, but it had the prices).

Is there a way to get back my messages? Or order? I did not delete these things.

Try contacting the Admins, they need to keep order details etc longer than
6 months for legal purposes


  
thanks!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 15:01
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In Problem Order, zorbanj writes:
  In Problem Order, jennnifer writes:
  In Problem Order, vrod2000 writes:
  
He told me that it could take 6 months for it to come back. Since it is almost
6 months, I want to check back with him.

I do not believe this is accurate. Any package without movement within 2 months
is considered lost.

Where did you get this 2 month "rule"?

For us it's 1 month.

Using normal rates - not "ground" or such, there's no destination
from here where it takes a month to arrive...

But already wrote another day, it took 7 months (SEVEN) for a single envelope
to arrive in South America, and the buyer didn't even complain and wrote
us when he got it!
Those are real excceptionnal exceptions
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 14:08
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In Problem Order, zorbanj writes:
  In Problem Order, jennnifer writes:
  In Problem Order, vrod2000 writes:
  
He told me that it could take 6 months for it to come back. Since it is almost
6 months, I want to check back with him.

I do not believe this is accurate. Any package without movement within 2 months
is considered lost.

Where did you get this 2 month "rule"?

I made it up right there on the spot!

~Jen
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 13:59
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In Problem Order, jennnifer writes:
  In Problem Order, vrod2000 writes:
  
He told me that it could take 6 months for it to come back. Since it is almost
6 months, I want to check back with him.

I do not believe this is accurate. Any package without movement within 2 months
is considered lost.

Where did you get this 2 month "rule"?
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 13:14
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In Problem Order, vrod2000 writes:
  Can anyone help?

After 6 months of not getting my money back for a refused international package.
(shipping was 50% higher than quoted, so I sent the package back)

You would have known the shipping charges when you paid. Are you talking about
customs fees or taxes? Was there a VAT form attached to your parcel?

  
The seller (Oasis in South Carolina) refused to refund my money until the package
came back to him. There is no detailed tracking on return packages, but it shows
that it came into the USA on October 28th.

He told me that it could take 6 months for it to come back. Since it is almost
6 months, I want to check back with him.

I do not believe this is accurate. Any package without movement within 2 months
is considered lost.

  
All of my prior orders are gone and so are my old messages.

BrickLink purges all non-problem orders after 6 months.
  
I was able to download the order (without much details, but it had the prices).

You would have received a detailed invoice when you made your purchase. Find
it in your email account.
  
Is there a way to get back my messages? Or order? I did not delete these things.

No, but BrickLink messages should also be sent to your email. Have a look!
  

Unless your seller failed to attach the VAT receipt to your order, whatever charges
that occurred were likely not their fault. However, 6 months is a ridiculous
time frame and they should have responded to you by now with either a refund
or a resolution you could both agree to.

Good luck,
~Jen
 Author: vrod2000 View Messages Posted By vrod2000
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 12:59
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Can anyone help?

After 6 months of not getting my money back for a refused international package.
(shipping was 50% higher than quoted, so I sent the package back)

The seller (Oasis in South Carolina) refused to refund my money until the package
came back to him. There is no detailed tracking on return packages, but it shows
that it came into the USA on October 28th.

He told me that it could take 6 months for it to come back. Since it is almost
6 months, I want to check back with him.

All of my prior orders are gone and so are my old messages.

I was able to download the order (without much details, but it had the prices).

Is there a way to get back my messages? Or order? I did not delete these things.

thanks!
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 04:47
 Subject: Re: Shipping order lost - Refund
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In Problem Order, Greeks_Rulez writes:
  Hello,

I shipped an order to a buyer with tracking, but the order has been lost.
I've recieved the money ftom the post office and now I want to refund the
buyer.
I refund him from Bricklink or Paypal?
So i have no issues with Bricklink platform and the buyer?

If he paid through paypal(onsite) via Bricklink, then use the refund button for
the order. If he paid offsite through PayPal, use the refund button on the payment
details page at PayPal.
 Author: Greeks_Rulez View Messages Posted By Greeks_Rulez
 Posted: Apr 15, 2024 04:21
 Subject: Shipping order lost - Refund
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Hello,

I shipped an order to a buyer with tracking, but the order has been lost.
I've recieved the money ftom the post office and now I want to refund the
buyer.
I refund him from Bricklink or Paypal?
So i have no issues with Bricklink platform and the buyer?
 Author: Mkwill96 View Messages Posted By Mkwill96
 Posted: Apr 13, 2024 13:35
 Subject: Re: Order Refund timeframe
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In Problem Order, Dhobeck writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

Do not remove the NSS until you have Proof that the seller has refunded your
money and you have you have received your money back.

Seller is now suspended with Preventive action lol, not sure whether to just
sit here and wait or try and figure out what to do... it's a 3k order so
I'm pretty worried rn🥲

If the seller has been suspended, it probably means there have been several similar
complaints. You almost certainly will not hear back from the seller or get a
refund. You should be working with your bank immediately to get a reversal of
the charges. Was this an experienced seller with good feedback? I assume seller
did not offer paypal for payment. For a valuable order, I would not have recommended
using a payment method that did not give buyer protection.

Yeah but I've bought from the seller loads of times before and he's got
283 reviews. Just seems odd that he's gone cold and u responsive all of a
sudden...

Seller acc (Collectabrick)

This may provide some information
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1458658

Yeah he was suspended a month ago but had his account reinstated after, I wonder
what the issue is this time as I have last heard from him on the 7th of April
and he hasn't been responding to my messages since.
Really like his store but seeing that it is a huge order I've placed I'm
warry that I won't get my money back...
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 13, 2024 12:57
 Subject: Re: Order Refund timeframe
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In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

Do not remove the NSS until you have Proof that the seller has refunded your
money and you have you have received your money back.

Seller is now suspended with Preventive action lol, not sure whether to just
sit here and wait or try and figure out what to do... it's a 3k order so
I'm pretty worried rn🥲

If the seller has been suspended, it probably means there have been several similar
complaints. You almost certainly will not hear back from the seller or get a
refund. You should be working with your bank immediately to get a reversal of
the charges. Was this an experienced seller with good feedback? I assume seller
did not offer paypal for payment. For a valuable order, I would not have recommended
using a payment method that did not give buyer protection.

Yeah but I've bought from the seller loads of times before and he's got
283 reviews. Just seems odd that he's gone cold and u responsive all of a
sudden...

Seller acc (Collectabrick)

This may provide some information
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1458658
 Author: Mkwill96 View Messages Posted By Mkwill96
 Posted: Apr 13, 2024 12:54
 Subject: Re: Order Refund timeframe
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In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

Do not remove the NSS until you have Proof that the seller has refunded your
money and you have you have received your money back.

Seller is now suspended with Preventive action lol, not sure whether to just
sit here and wait or try and figure out what to do... it's a 3k order so
I'm pretty worried rn🥲

If the seller has been suspended, it probably means there have been several similar
complaints. You almost certainly will not hear back from the seller or get a
refund. You should be working with your bank immediately to get a reversal of
the charges. Was this an experienced seller with good feedback? I assume seller
did not offer paypal for payment. For a valuable order, I would not have recommended
using a payment method that did not give buyer protection.

Yeah but I've bought from the seller loads of times before and he's got
283 reviews. Just seems odd that he's gone cold and u responsive all of a
sudden...

Seller acc (Collectabrick)
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Apr 13, 2024 12:36
 Subject: Re: Seller no longer responding
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File a paypal complaint if the seller remains unresponsive.
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Apr 13, 2024 12:32
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In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

Do not remove the NSS until you have Proof that the seller has refunded your
money and you have you have received your money back.

Seller is now suspended with Preventive action lol, not sure whether to just
sit here and wait or try and figure out what to do... it's a 3k order so
I'm pretty worried rn🥲

If the seller has been suspended, it probably means there have been several similar
complaints. You almost certainly will not hear back from the seller or get a
refund. You should be working with your bank immediately to get a reversal of
the charges. Was this an experienced seller with good feedback? I assume seller
did not offer paypal for payment. For a valuable order, I would not have recommended
using a payment method that did not give buyer protection.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Apr 12, 2024 16:18
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In Problem Order, Dhobeck writes:
  In Problem Order, Momdukes writes:
  Hello Everyone,
I need some advice and I hope someone can help. I placed a order on 03/29/2024
and paid immediately through PayPal.
On 4/2/24 I was messaged and told that one of the items couldn’t be found and
was asked if I wanted a different color or a refund, I chose a refund as I
already had lots of the other color. The refund was never given before shipping
and when I received the order on 4/8 the item wasn’t in there but that’s not
the worst part! There were multiple problems with either incorrect colors of
a item sent, wrong quantity, one item not Lego, incorrect items sent and one
other item missing. So I sent a message and stated the issues and said I would
just like a refund mainly because one item that was damaged is a hard to find
one and there was not another in the store. The next response from that store
came through regular email and not through the “my messages” area but in the
email it was stated that the corrected items would be sent out at the earliest
convenience. I responded through the “My Messages” and asked for the refund as
I ordered from another store since they didn’t have another of the “special”
item and I was going to have to pay for shipping from that new store anyways.
I have sent 3 messages since that one email from them and I’ve had no response
or refund (or even any items coming in the mail) and I was going to report a
problem order but I’ve made payment, received most of my items so I’m not sure
if that is the route I need to take. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
JEN

Start an NSS

also start a Paypal claim
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 12, 2024 16:17
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In Problem Order, Momdukes writes:
  In Problem Order, Dhobeck writes:
  In Problem Order, Momdukes writes:
  Hello Everyone,
I need some advice and I hope someone can help. I placed a order on 03/29/2024
and paid immediately through PayPal.
On 4/2/24 I was messaged and told that one of the items couldn’t be found and
was asked if I wanted a different color or a refund, I chose a refund as I
already had lots of the other color. The refund was never given before shipping
and when I received the order on 4/8 the item wasn’t in there but that’s not
the worst part! There were multiple problems with either incorrect colors of
a item sent, wrong quantity, one item not Lego, incorrect items sent and one
other item missing. So I sent a message and stated the issues and said I would
just like a refund mainly because one item that was damaged is a hard to find
one and there was not another in the store. The next response from that store
came through regular email and not through the “my messages” area but in the
email it was stated that the corrected items would be sent out at the earliest
convenience. I responded through the “My Messages” and asked for the refund as
I ordered from another store since they didn’t have another of the “special”
item and I was going to have to pay for shipping from that new store anyways.
I have sent 3 messages since that one email from them and I’ve had no response
or refund (or even any items coming in the mail) and I was going to report a
problem order but I’ve made payment, received most of my items so I’m not sure
if that is the route I need to take. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
JEN

Start an NSS

Thank you Dhobeck, I just wasn’t sure as I paid and received most items. I appreciate
your response!

If you wanted more details
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=110
 Author: Momdukes View Messages Posted By Momdukes
 Posted: Apr 12, 2024 16:11
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In Problem Order, Dhobeck writes:
  In Problem Order, Momdukes writes:
  Hello Everyone,
I need some advice and I hope someone can help. I placed a order on 03/29/2024
and paid immediately through PayPal.
On 4/2/24 I was messaged and told that one of the items couldn’t be found and
was asked if I wanted a different color or a refund, I chose a refund as I
already had lots of the other color. The refund was never given before shipping
and when I received the order on 4/8 the item wasn’t in there but that’s not
the worst part! There were multiple problems with either incorrect colors of
a item sent, wrong quantity, one item not Lego, incorrect items sent and one
other item missing. So I sent a message and stated the issues and said I would
just like a refund mainly because one item that was damaged is a hard to find
one and there was not another in the store. The next response from that store
came through regular email and not through the “my messages” area but in the
email it was stated that the corrected items would be sent out at the earliest
convenience. I responded through the “My Messages” and asked for the refund as
I ordered from another store since they didn’t have another of the “special”
item and I was going to have to pay for shipping from that new store anyways.
I have sent 3 messages since that one email from them and I’ve had no response
or refund (or even any items coming in the mail) and I was going to report a
problem order but I’ve made payment, received most of my items so I’m not sure
if that is the route I need to take. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
JEN

Start an NSS

Thank you Dhobeck, I just wasn’t sure as I paid and received most items. I appreciate
your response!
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 12, 2024 15:56
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In Problem Order, Momdukes writes:
  Hello Everyone,
I need some advice and I hope someone can help. I placed a order on 03/29/2024
and paid immediately through PayPal.
On 4/2/24 I was messaged and told that one of the items couldn’t be found and
was asked if I wanted a different color or a refund, I chose a refund as I
already had lots of the other color. The refund was never given before shipping
and when I received the order on 4/8 the item wasn’t in there but that’s not
the worst part! There were multiple problems with either incorrect colors of
a item sent, wrong quantity, one item not Lego, incorrect items sent and one
other item missing. So I sent a message and stated the issues and said I would
just like a refund mainly because one item that was damaged is a hard to find
one and there was not another in the store. The next response from that store
came through regular email and not through the “my messages” area but in the
email it was stated that the corrected items would be sent out at the earliest
convenience. I responded through the “My Messages” and asked for the refund as
I ordered from another store since they didn’t have another of the “special”
item and I was going to have to pay for shipping from that new store anyways.
I have sent 3 messages since that one email from them and I’ve had no response
or refund (or even any items coming in the mail) and I was going to report a
problem order but I’ve made payment, received most of my items so I’m not sure
if that is the route I need to take. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
JEN

Start an NSS
 Author: Momdukes View Messages Posted By Momdukes
 Posted: Apr 12, 2024 15:55
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Hello Everyone,
I need some advice and I hope someone can help. I placed a order on 03/29/2024
and paid immediately through PayPal.
On 4/2/24 I was messaged and told that one of the items couldn’t be found and
was asked if I wanted a different color or a refund, I chose a refund as I
already had lots of the other color. The refund was never given before shipping
and when I received the order on 4/8 the item wasn’t in there but that’s not
the worst part! There were multiple problems with either incorrect colors of
a item sent, wrong quantity, one item not Lego, incorrect items sent and one
other item missing. So I sent a message and stated the issues and said I would
just like a refund mainly because one item that was damaged is a hard to find
one and there was not another in the store. The next response from that store
came through regular email and not through the “my messages” area but in the
email it was stated that the corrected items would be sent out at the earliest
convenience. I responded through the “My Messages” and asked for the refund as
I ordered from another store since they didn’t have another of the “special”
item and I was going to have to pay for shipping from that new store anyways.
I have sent 3 messages since that one email from them and I’ve had no response
or refund (or even any items coming in the mail) and I was going to report a
problem order but I’ve made payment, received most of my items so I’m not sure
if that is the route I need to take. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
JEN
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 12, 2024 14:44
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In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

Do not remove the NSS until you have Proof that the seller has refunded your
money and you have you have received your money back.

Seller is now suspended with Preventive action lol, not sure whether to just
sit here and wait or try and figure out what to do... it's a 3k order so
I'm pretty worried rn🥲

3,000 pounds, man that must have had expensive shipping
Hope it all works out though
 Author: Mkwill96 View Messages Posted By Mkwill96
 Posted: Apr 12, 2024 14:32
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In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

Do not remove the NSS until you have Proof that the seller has refunded your
money and you have you have received your money back.

Seller is now suspended with Preventive action lol, not sure whether to just
sit here and wait or try and figure out what to do... it's a 3k order so
I'm pretty worried rn🥲
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Apr 11, 2024 21:27
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In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

Do not remove the NSS until you have Proof that the seller has refunded your
money and you have you have received your money back.
 Author: Mkwill96 View Messages Posted By Mkwill96
 Posted: Apr 11, 2024 15:47
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In Problem Order, yorbrick writes:
  In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

How did you pay through stripe, as bank transfer refunds can be a few days, back
to credit card can take a couple of weeks to show depending on issuer.

I used a debit card, refund was initiated 7th april but I havent gotten anything
yet. Seller account just got suspended too so Im really hoping that I do get
my money back...
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Apr 11, 2024 01:46
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In Problem Order, steelwoolghandi writes:
  So I just had an NSS filed against me. buyer said I sent the wrong part said
I did not ship part number 75038 there is no part with that number but its a
set. I did ship panels from that set 2 of them.
I have the Tracking number showing it shipped and was received.
this is my first NSS do I give bricklink the Tracking Number? I replied to NSS
in comments with the Tracking number and information pertaining to the order.
not sure if I need to do more?

You did the right thing to communicatie in the commentsfield.
The buyer should remove it. If not send a message to the Helpdesk:
https://www.bricklink.com/helpDesk.asp?helpDeskID=122
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So I just had an NSS filed against me. buyer said I sent the wrong part said
I did not ship part number 75038 there is no part with that number but its a
set. I did ship panels from that set 2 of them.
I have the Tracking number showing it shipped and was received.
this is my first NSS do I give bricklink the Tracking Number? I replied to NSS
in comments with the Tracking number and information pertaining to the order.
not sure if I need to do more?
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In Problem Order, Mkwill96 writes:
  I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)

How did you pay through stripe, as bank transfer refunds can be a few days, back
to credit card can take a couple of weeks to show depending on issuer.
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I have placed an order on a store and he hasn't shipped in 3 weeks and hasn't
replied so I've logged a NSS, seller says he's refunded me but I haven't
received anything. (STRIPE PAYMENT). Am wondering how long I should wait for
the refund. (Refund initiated on 8th April)
 Author: Tanti View Messages Posted By Tanti
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problem center
order item

In Problem Order, gylman writes:
  Buyer ordered several items from my store, but I could not find a couple of them.
Buyer is willing to go ahead with the rest of the order. Is there a way to
delete just the items that I don't have? Rather than cancel the whole order
and have the buyer re-do it?

Thanks
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  the simplest way is to refund the items is paid and if not paid then to add a
credit to the order amount for them

I had to to that with one of my last order missing 3 of 3866 items
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In Problem Order, lesley2459 writes:
  Hi

can anyone help wiith the following 2 orders

first order has been completed satisfactorally but it will not allow me to mark
as complete even though both myself and my customer have left good feedback ..the
completed bar is missing (have written to helpdesk twice with no response)

I don’t know why neither of you can… but I know sellers needing or being able
to mark orders complete always spawn discussions: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462094



  second order..the customer has requested cancellation of their order after paying
as they have changed their mind..i agreed providing they covered the unrefundable
part of the paypal fees ..which they are happy to do
i have processed the refund including going into the refund on bricklink part
but it will not let me cancel the order and update my inventory

If you didn’t refund the whole order, you can’t cancel it.
Otherwise, this scenario would be possible: buyer pays 100, seller refunds 1
and cancels, buyer can’t do anything on BL.
(With luck, buyer can do something with PayPal or Stripe to get the remaining
99.)


  any suggestions welcome
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Hi

can anyone help wiith the following 2 orders

first order has been completed satisfactorally but it will not allow me to mark
as complete even though both myself and my customer have left good feedback ..the
completed bar is missing (have written to helpdesk twice with no response)

second order..the customer has requested cancellation of their order after paying
as they have changed their mind..i agreed providing they covered the unrefundable
part of the paypal fees ..which they are happy to do
i have processed the refund including going into the refund on bricklink part
but it will not let me cancel the order and update my inventory

any suggestions welcome
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In Problem Order, Sir_BrickaBrack writes:
  In Problem Order, gylman writes:
  Buyer ordered several items from my store, but I could not find a couple of them.
Buyer is willing to go ahead with the rest of the order. Is there a way to
delete just the items that I don't have? Rather than cancel the whole order
and have the buyer re-do it?

Thanks

I am having a similar issue, did you get a response on how to refund just a single
item?

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1461236
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In Problem Order, gylman writes:
  Buyer ordered several items from my store, but I could not find a couple of them.
Buyer is willing to go ahead with the rest of the order. Is there a way to
delete just the items that I don't have? Rather than cancel the whole order
and have the buyer re-do it?

Thanks

I am having a similar issue, did you get a response on how to refund just a single
item?
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In Problem Order, Tuffduck writes:
  Hi Sellers,
Please beware of Adrianmaelstrom. Does not comply with your store policies and
I have reported as a Non-Paying Buyer.

If you want to warn others, then leave appropriate feedback.
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Tuffduck writes:
  Hi Sellers,
Please beware of Adrianmaelstrom. Does not comply with your store policies and
I have reported as a Non-Paying Buyer.

Seems painless: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=Adrianmaelstrom

You're saying that the member is now breaking bad with you

Yes. I just want to make sure others don't go through the same problem.
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In Problem Order, Tuffduck writes:
  Hi Sellers,
Please beware of Adrianmaelstrom. Does not comply with your store policies and
I have reported as a Non-Paying Buyer.

Seems painless: https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=Adrianmaelstrom

You're saying that the member is now breaking bad with you
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Hi Sellers,
Please beware of Adrianmaelstrom. Does not comply with your store policies and
I have reported as a Non-Paying Buyer.
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I made a purchase last month for a significant quantity of a single lot. When
it showed up, less than 2/3 of the parts were actually in the package. After
messaging the seller 4 times over more than a week and getting either no response
or getting the runaround saying they will look into it and then never following
up with that, I have finally initiated an NSS.

Typically an NSS can be removed by a seller if they show BrickLink they have
shipped the item. In this case though they definitely shipped the item and I
have acknowledged I have received the item and I am sure the tracking shows that
as well. How does Bricklink go about resolving an NSS like this?

I have pictures that show that not all the parts were sent as well as incorrect
customs information which at the very least shows that they package didn't
even weigh enough to hold all the parts but I cannot upload this to BrickLink
as the whole NSS claim process is only text.

If I still don't receive a response even after initiating the NSS I plan
to resolve it through a dispute on Paypal. I can upload all that extra information
through them and after speaking with them I fully expect to win the case if it
has to come to that. Does BrickLink defer to Paypal when it comes to disputing
the contents of a package?

I hope they respond/resolve the issue before it comes to Paypal but if they don't
I don't think they should be able to remove their NSS simply because they
provide a tracking number showing that it was delivered. Anybody gone through
this? How does it all work?

Thanks,
Pete
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In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  
I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?


In case you haven't been advised regarding your original question in what
has become a dumpster fire of a thread:

Sellers almost always dispute a PayPal claim, figuring they have nothing to lose.
PayPal will tell you to mail the order back with tracking. You will have to pay
for return shipping. As soon as the tracking shows as delivered, PayPal will
take the money from the seller and deposit it into your account. So, you will
be out the cost of return shippping and the seller will be out Paypal fees +
Bricklink fees + original shipping costs.

Do not cancel the NSS even if the seller asks you to. Seller will have to take
care of the NSS on his own.
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 Posted: Apr 2, 2024 12:42
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In Problem Order, rickcraine writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.


Imagine this was an April Fools post and y'all got very fooled


(Disclaimer: this is a joke )

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In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
  1. The seller is not allowed to list incomplete minifigures in a Bricklink store,
no matter what the description may say.
2. You did not get what you paid for. Submit a paypal claim. File an NSS.
3. Post the name of the seller to warn other buyers about unscrupulous behaviour.

Yes, all of this.

You can report the incomplete listings here:

https://www.bricklink.com/problemInventory.asp

Good luck,
~Jen
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1. The seller is not allowed to list incomplete minifigures in a Bricklink store,
no matter what the description may say.
2. You did not get what you paid for. Submit a paypal claim. File an NSS.
3. Post the name of the seller to warn other buyers about unscrupulous behaviour.
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In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.


Imagine this was an April Fools post and y'all got very fooled


(Disclaimer: this is a joke )
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  Lego doesn't sell licensed minifigures in bulk, especially when they come
in $650+ sets that are currently in production

We're talking about licensed minifigs, not regular bricks & pieces

+1
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In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
  In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.

Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-

A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included

They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.

People also believe OJ is innocent.

Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!

Don't bother. You're known (to me, anyway) as a man of reason and probity
who's expecting the same from some others without. Honestly, kinda painful
to witness. Haven't myself read anything within this thread offering more
substantial detail other than the member being in Mexico with a low seller rating.
Beyond that is the anecdotal input of the OP and a flood of speculation. Some
of which goes too far.

If any of those bantering criminal assertions based on the somewhat scant
information made known, would like to bring the other member into the convo for
their side of the story... or at least share more of their transactional history,
well then I'm willing listen with more intent.

Well yes exactly that

However on a side note I just checked your store, You have 200x Tarkin heads
from a UCS set but no Torsos for that same minifig??
Conclusion is that you must have acquired them illegitimately? Well actually
no wait because that part hasn't increased in value to around $20 each those
ones are probably legitimate

Your tongue-in-cheek analogy, highlights for me that you’re in the know. Fundamentals
of longterm LEGO investing for the secondary market. Many concerns of this type
and the questions brought to the forum, are usually rooted in just a basic lack
of understand of the concepts and ideas of those “fundamentals”. I’ve been reading
this type of thing for as long as I can recall here in the forum.

I’ll sometimes smirk to myself when reading the wild speculations stated as assertions.
Smirk because it’s all too familiar to me from another line of work I once held;
the nature of the struggle to understand that which is right in front of you

Let’s just say that ignorance far too often breeds reckless speculation in this
matter, and leave it there. I imagine the whole social media influencing effect,
doesn’t help the matter much either.
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However on a side note I just checked your store, You have 200x Tarkin heads
from a UCS set but no Torsos for that same minifig??
Conclusion is that you must have acquired them illegitimately? Well actually
no wait because that part hasn't increased in value to around $20 each those
ones are probably legitimate

If the same logic that we applied to the rex figures in the order was applied
to these parts they would still be considered 100% real
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
  In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.

Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-

A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included

They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.

People also believe OJ is innocent.

Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!

Don't bother. You're known (to me, anyway) as a man of reason and probity
who's expecting the same from some others without. Honestly, kinda painful
to witness. Haven't myself read anything within this thread offering more
substantial detail other than the member being in Mexico with a low seller rating.
Beyond that is the anecdotal input of the OP and a flood of speculation. Some
of which goes too far.

If any of those bantering criminal assertions based on the somewhat scant
information made known, would like to bring the other member into the convo for
their side of the story... or at least share more of their transactional history,
well then I'm willing listen with more intent.

Well yes exactly that

However on a side note I just checked your store, You have 200x Tarkin heads
from a UCS set but no Torsos for that same minifig??
Conclusion is that you must have acquired them illegitimately? Well actually
no wait because that part hasn't increased in value to around $20 each those
ones are probably legitimate
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.

Lol, lmao even

  Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

Okay, let's go over the details

If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none

the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves

These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process

There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers

For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense

I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)

This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:

Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator

and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog

There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on


This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.

For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.

I wonder what would happen if this information somehow "accidentally"
made it to TLG (for legal reasons this is sarcasm not meant to be
taken seriously)

I don’t know what their policy is now but back in the day, our employee store
purchases had a dollar amount limit per year. They wanted to make sure that our
purchases were for our family and that we weren’t selling them on the side. If
I remember correctly it was $500.00. Anyone caught selling them was subject to
termination.

Karen
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In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
  In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.

Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-

A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included

They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.

People also believe OJ is innocent.

Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!

Don't bother. You're known (to me, anyway) as a man of reason and probity
who's expecting the same from some others without. Honestly, kinda painful
to witness. Haven't myself read anything within this thread offering more
substantial detail other than the member being in Mexico with a low seller rating.
Beyond that is the anecdotal input of the OP and a flood of speculation. Some
of which goes too far.

If any of those bantering criminal assertions based on the somewhat scant
information made known, would like to bring the other member into the convo for
their side of the story... or at least share more of their transactional history,
well then I'm willing listen with more intent.
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 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 23:19
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  Lego doesn't sell licensed minifigures in bulk, especially when they come
in $650+ sets that are currently in production

We're talking about licensed minifigs, not regular bricks & pieces

Did I mention Lego bricks and pieces? The point is not every single Licensed
Lego part ends up in a sealed set? What do you think happens to the excess manufactured
Licensed parts? Will leave you to ponder!
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In Problem Order, BrickOutLoud writes:
  If it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.

I think I just found the title of my autobiography lol.

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In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
  In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.

Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-

A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included

They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.

People also believe OJ is innocent.

Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!
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If it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.

I think I just found the title of my autobiography lol.
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  it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.

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In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.

Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-

A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included

They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.

People also believe OJ is innocent.
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  "random assumptions" as if there isn't a heap of information regarding
the Mexico factory & workers smuggling out minifigs in bulk... hokay buddy

Are you suggesting that every time someone receives missing items, This is the
reason why??

  what do you expect me to do? buy 4 UCS Venators, part them out, and send the
missing pauldrons to OP & solve his issue?

Has anyone suggested that?

  he already filed a paypal claim and NSS, I'm providing context as to why
this happened to him

Yes and without any evidence to back that up. The buyer simply received missing
items. Providing your own reasons/ideas as to why this may have happened is one
thing but statements like:-

"You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory"

and

"Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink"

are baseless comments and pure speculation on your part

  Maybe you should read https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462560 so I don't
repeat myself

Maybe you should try to better understand the Lego Marketplace before commenting
that way it would save us both repeating ourselves.
What you have written there only shows me that you believe every part on bricklink
can only be sourced from parting out sets alone. Has it not occurred to you that
Lego manufacture excess parts for customer service purposes? What do you think
happens to those excess parts after the sets become retired and Lego no longer
support them? There will also be production run overspills that differ in quantity
for each minifig component meaning there will never be an equal number of heads
to torsos in existence for each minifig hence why some parts belonging to the
same minifig are widely available whilst others are not.
Lastly just because a seller has a good quantity of high value parts does not
mean they were not acquired legitimately. Is it so hard to believe that parts
bought relatively cheaply today can soon become high value in a few years from
now?
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In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.

Lol, lmao even

  Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

Okay, let's go over the details

If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none

the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves

These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process

There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers

For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense

I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)

This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:

Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator

and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog

There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on


This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.

For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.

I wonder what would happen if this information somehow "accidentally"
made it to TLG (for legal reasons this is sarcasm not meant to be
taken seriously)
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!

Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.

Then sell them for a loss???

That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.

And I still want to know.

still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)

Sorry poor context, just trying to say that they can’t get that many figs from
$600 sets legally.

sorry I'm just a little confused still we you referring to the rex one
and that was the rhetorical question or to a normal $600 set being parted out
in high qty
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.

Lol, lmao even

  Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

Okay, let's go over the details

If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none

the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves

These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process

There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers

For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense

I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)

This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:

Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator

and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog

There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on


This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.

For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!

Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.

Then sell them for a loss???

That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.

And I still want to know.

still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)

Sorry poor context, just trying to say that they can’t get that many figs from
$600 sets legally.
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  also, if any admins are reading this, this sellers seems to perfectly fit the
bill for one of the Mexico factory sellers so it may be prudent to look into
them.

It looks like they are located in the same area (Monterey) as the Mexican factory.
Either they work there, or knows someone that does.
All new minifigs, including 12 year old ones, with no parts from the related
sets.

It wasn’t hard to figure out the store name
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!

Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.

Then sell them for a loss???

That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.

And I still want to know.

still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:

  And I still want to know.

Shrug, not my business model, I don't know. You'd have to ask them.
I've done it for some sets and just part it all out in. Other people sell
the set as used incomplete.
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In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!

Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.

Then sell them for a loss???

That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.

And I still want to know.

  There was another thread this month about how people can get so many GWP's
and it's extremely simple and "legal".

I remember.
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!

Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.

Then sell them for a loss???

That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.

There was another thread this month about how people can get so many GWP's
and it's extremely simple and "legal".
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In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!

Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.

Then sell them for a loss???
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!

Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

dont go that far its fully possible but in this specific case (rex without
paldron) its not but other cases like the joker from the ucs tumbler 100% is
possible (tho that may be from before your time in the forms)

True, heard you talking about this problem in your last vid.
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

apparently they can

(old pic, but you get the point )


You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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  There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!

dont go that far its fully possible but in this specific case (rex without
paldron) its not but other cases like the joker from the ucs tumbler 100% is
possible (tho that may be from before your time in the forms)
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  "random assumptions" as if there isn't a heap of information regarding
the Mexico factory & workers smuggling out minifigs in bulk... hokay buddy

what do you expect me to do? buy 4 UCS Venators, part them out, and send the
missing pauldrons to OP & solve his issue?

he already filed a paypal claim and NSS, I'm providing context as to why
this happened to him

Maybe you should read https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462560 so I don't
repeat myself

A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?

careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!

hopefully it doesn't come to that

It will never come to that, not my game

Im trying to follow popsicles advise
  https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working

Perhaps you'll learn to understand with more nuance then. My advise is heartfelt
and lived. But I don't advise public accusation of criminal intention in
others without hearing both sides.

Good idea!
ps. your order will be shipped tomorrow.
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?

careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!

hopefully it doesn't come to that

It will never come to that, not my game

Im trying to follow popsicles advise
  https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working

Perhaps you'll learn to understand with more nuance then. My advise is heartfelt
and lived. But I don't advise public accusation of criminal intention in
others without hearing both sides.
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?

careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!

hopefully it doesn't come to that Im trying to follow popsicles advise
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working

Popsicle said that!
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?

careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!

hopefully it doesn't come to that Im trying to follow popsicles advise
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

Your random assumptions don't really help anybody. Stick to the facts.....
The facts are that the buyer has received missing items. Everything you have
written above is pure speculation and therefore irrelevant to helping resolve
the buyers issue!
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In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?

Here are some exchanges with the seller:


Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:

Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders


Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?

I look forward to hearing from you.


I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.

Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.

Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-

A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.

Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.

I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do

As I said; stop it.

All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540

"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"

without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.

what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario
and saying what it most likely is?

Good question.
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.

Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.

I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do

As I said; stop it.

All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540

"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"

without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.

what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario
and saying what it most likely is?
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.

Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.

I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do

As I said; stop it.

All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540

"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"

without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.

Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.

I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do

Thank you! +1
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.

Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.

I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.

I admire your moxie Order placed

Order invoced as soon as you respond to my message.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.

I admire your moxie Order placed
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

Alright, I will be open for 15mins
I have a trip that I'm going on so I can't be tied to this site for days.
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.

Lol, lmao even

  Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

Okay, let's go over the details

If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none

the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves

These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process

There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers

For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense

I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)

This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:

Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator

and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog

There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on

well put. based on all the available info the most likely scenario is they are
Mexico nightshift figures. its not a random claim to say they are most likely
stolen. it is based on all the available evidence from a problem that is by no
means unique and is incredibly common over the past few years
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.

Or alternatively, you can simply express your understanding of what "slanderous"
means
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you

Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce

If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 19:24
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.

Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 19:09
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?

Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 19:05
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Hang on just let me stop list you first
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 19:04
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?

Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 18:59
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In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again

Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 18:50
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In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.

You are over thinking again
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 18:46
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.

maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods

Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
 Author: MiniRoz View Messages Posted By MiniRoz
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 18:22
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In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)

Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
I just looked at his store inventory, and he has several Employee Exclusive sets
for sale, so I’m wondering if he works at the LEGO facility in Mexico. He had
100% positive feedback when I made my purchase, but I’m now seeing that his feedback
was likely from a friend or second account. I have made dozens of purchases from
sellers in Canada that have been exceptional, so I didn’t feel I should over
scrutinize purchasing from a seller in Mexico. I’ve completed over 300 transactions
without incident, but I will obviously be more cautious moving forward.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 17:51
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In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action

Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.

mhm, id 100% wait for Paypal to say what to do. they will likely say you have
to return it at your expense but then you are guaranteed a refund.

also, if any admins are reading this, this sellers seems to perfectly fit the
bill for one of the Mexico factory sellers so it may be prudent to look into
them.
 Author: MiniRoz View Messages Posted By MiniRoz
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action

Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.
 Author: MiniRoz View Messages Posted By MiniRoz
 Posted: Apr 1, 2024 17:48
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In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action

Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.

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