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 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Apr 6, 2024 06:43
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  I cannot think of a single situation where a buyer would leave feedback if they
didn't consider the order completed? Presumably they leave feedback when
they've either received goods and are happy (Order Completed) or they leave
negative/neutral feedback because they are unhappy with the sellers lack of resolve
(Order Completed)

On other platforms like ebay there is no Completed status because feedback alone
defines the orders status and rounds up the overall transaction as complete!

I've definitely had buyers leave feedback before they even received their
orders - rare, but it happens. I don't know if one can do the same on eBay
(it seems one can click the "Leave Feedback" button but I don't know
if the form can be submitted), but in any case, since eBay also tracks orders,
I imagine the order isn't complete until the buyer has received it (I don't
know what happens in cases where the order can't be tracked).

I think if the buyer marks the order as "Received" and then leaves positive
feedback the order should automatically complete. Maybe when the buyer leaves
any kind of feedback? Not sure about that last part.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Apr 6, 2024 06:30
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  
  
  As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.

It doesn't mean your original statement makes any more sense either?

Kind of, re-read "while it wasn't meant" as "while it could haven't
been meant".

But who cares, the fact is there's no / not always relationship between feedback
and status.

I mean apart if everything's rewritten, like status, feedbacks, alerts...


But as of right now, a quick and easy way to straighten things would be to:

* redefine the Completed status in Help,

* or make seller not able to set the order to Completed.


Right now we're discussing in vain because it's one of the points where
BrickLink doesn't work or can't be used as described

I'm off this subject, sorry.

That's okay I can round-up things then....

Basically a buyer doesn't leave feedback until they consider the order completed
thereby making the status of 'Completed' obsolete

I cannot think of a single situation where a buyer would leave feedback if they
didn't consider the order completed? Presumably they leave feedback when
they've either received goods and are happy (Order Completed) or they leave
negative/neutral feedback because they are unhappy with the sellers lack of resolve
(Order Completed)

On other platforms like ebay there is no Completed status because feedback alone
defines the orders status and rounds up the overall transaction as complete!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 21:10
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  
  
  As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.

It doesn't mean your original statement makes any more sense either?

Kind of, re-read "while it wasn't meant" as "while it could haven't
been meant".

But who cares, the fact is there's no / not always relationship between feedback
and status.

I mean apart if everything's rewritten, like status, feedbacks, alerts...


But as of right now, a quick and easy way to straighten things would be to:

* redefine the Completed status in Help,

* or make seller not able to set the order to Completed.


Right now we're discussing in vain because it's one of the points where
BrickLink doesn't work or can't be used as described

I'm off this subject, sorry.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 20:48
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  
  
  As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!


See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.


It doesn't mean your original statement makes any more sense either?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 20:16
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  
  
  As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!


See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.


  I've come to the conclusion that you are the type of person who just likes
to disagree for the sake of disagreeing only your counter arguments rarely ever
seem to have any substance or make any sense?

Mom told me not to talk to trolls. Should have listen to her more.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 19:44
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  
  
  As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

I've come to the conclusion that you are the type of person who just likes
to disagree for the sake of disagreeing only your counter arguments rarely ever
seem to have any substance or make any sense?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 15:22
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  
There is a reason sellers might want to set an order to complete.

If you want to delete an old shipping method, you cannot if there is an open
order using that method

There's also NO reason to immediately delete a shipping method.

Simply disable it and forget it, delete it later on - it won't be shown in
your shop while disabled.

In short, there is still no reason a seller would set Completed an order

Sure there are work arounds to solve a problem. But if a seller wants to remove
a method, they cannot

We don't care.

The discussion is about: why a Seller would be able to set Completed.

Final argument being for me that this doesn't comply with the Completed status:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462312
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 15:04
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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There is a reason sellers might want to set an order to complete.

If you want to delete an old shipping method, you cannot if there is an open
order using that method

There's also NO reason to immediately delete a shipping method.

Simply disable it and forget it, delete it later on - it won't be shown in
your shop while disabled.

In short, there is still no reason a seller would set Completed an order

Sure there are work arounds to solve a problem. But if a seller wants to remove
a method, they cannot and are warned it is because there are open orders (even
if they are filed). Hence they can be tempted to complete ones that are already
months old.

There is also the issue that store wide minimum orders take into account any
disabled methods. So if you have multiple redundant methods that are disabled
you still have to edit every one of them if you want to raise the store minimum,
even though they cannot be used by a buyer. Of course, this is not the buyer's
fault (or care), just dodgy programming blocking changes.

It also seems strange that you cannot delete a shipping method while an order
is open, but you can change all the variable parameters in that method.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 13:34
 Subject: Re: Setting Orders to Complete!
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, MMillere writes:
  Since sellers are NOT supposed to set orders to Complete.....

Can we make it so they can't?

Because when a seller does it by mistake, we can not send a ship notice thru
the system

Thanx

Milissa

There is a reason sellers might want to set an order to complete.

If you want to delete an old shipping method, you cannot if there is an open
order using that method

There's also NO reason to immediately delete a shipping method.

Simply disable it and forget it, delete it later on - it won't be shown in
your shop while disabled.

In short, there is still no reason a seller would set Completed an order
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 5, 2024 13:29
 Subject: Re: Connect Wanted List to My Collection
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In Suggestions, TheHatter13 writes:
  I asked this same thing previously but it is kind of a manual process that I
chose. You can use the apply order in the Wat list at the top but if you have
2 orders with the same part you can accidently apply some parts twice if you
are not careful.

I ended up using BrickStore which is a free program that connects to Bricklink.
I download my orders and then sort by part number. Once I have this I go to the
Search in the Want List menu and search for that part. Then, I can compare the
numbers and update the have quantities.

Great move!

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