Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | infinibrix | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:30 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 66 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
| In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
|
They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.
People also believe OJ is innocent.
|
Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!
|
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Author: | BrickOutLoud | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:30 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| If it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.
I think I just found the title of my autobiography lol.
|
Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:26 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| | it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.
|
|
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Author: | rtzx9r | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:24 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
|
They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.
People also believe OJ is innocent.
|
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Author: | infinibrix | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:16 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| "random assumptions" as if there isn't a heap of information regarding
the Mexico factory & workers smuggling out minifigs in bulk... hokay buddy
|
Are you suggesting that every time someone receives missing items, This is the
reason why??
| what do you expect me to do? buy 4 UCS Venators, part them out, and send the
missing pauldrons to OP & solve his issue?
|
Has anyone suggested that?
| he already filed a paypal claim and NSS, I'm providing context as to why
this happened to him
|
Yes and without any evidence to back that up. The buyer simply received missing
items. Providing your own reasons/ideas as to why this may have happened is one
thing but statements like:-
"You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory"
and
"Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink"
are baseless comments and pure speculation on your part
Maybe you should try to better understand the Lego Marketplace before commenting
that way it would save us both repeating ourselves.
What you have written there only shows me that you believe every part on bricklink
can only be sourced from parting out sets alone. Has it not occurred to you that
Lego manufacture excess parts for customer service purposes? What do you think
happens to those excess parts after the sets become retired and Lego no longer
support them? There will also be production run overspills that differ in quantity
for each minifig component meaning there will never be an equal number of heads
to torsos in existence for each minifig hence why some parts belonging to the
same minifig are widely available whilst others are not.
Lastly just because a seller has a good quantity of high value parts does not
mean they were not acquired legitimately. Is it so hard to believe that parts
bought relatively cheaply today can soon become high value in a few years from
now?
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:58 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.
|
Lol, lmao even
| Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
Okay, let's go over the details
If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none
the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves
These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process
There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers
For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense
I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)
This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:
Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator
and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog
There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on
|
This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.
For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.
|
I wonder what would happen if this information somehow "accidentally"
made it to TLG (for legal reasons this is sarcasm not meant to be
taken seriously)
|
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:57 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
|
Then sell them for a loss???
|
That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
|
And I still want to know.
|
still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)
|
Sorry poor context, just trying to say that they can’t get that many figs from
$600 sets legally.
|
sorry I'm just a little confused still we you referring to the rex one
and that was the rhetorical question or to a normal $600 set being parted out
in high qty
|
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Author: | MiniRoz | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:54 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.
|
Lol, lmao even
| Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
Okay, let's go over the details
If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none
the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves
These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process
There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers
For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense
I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)
This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:
Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator
and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog
There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on
|
This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.
For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.
|
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:52 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
|
Then sell them for a loss???
|
That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
|
And I still want to know.
|
still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)
|
Sorry poor context, just trying to say that they can’t get that many figs from
$600 sets legally.
|
|
Author: | jbroman | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:46 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| also, if any admins are reading this, this sellers seems to perfectly fit the
bill for one of the Mexico factory sellers so it may be prudent to look into
them.
|
It looks like they are located in the same area (Monterey) as the Mexican factory.
Either they work there, or knows someone that does.
All new minifigs, including 12 year old ones, with no parts from the related
sets.
It wasn’t hard to figure out the store name
|
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:44 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
|
Then sell them for a loss???
|
That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
|
And I still want to know.
|
still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)
|
|
Author: | Ziegelmeister | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:41 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| And I still want to know.
|
Shrug, not my business model, I don't know. You'd have to ask them.
I've done it for some sets and just part it all out in. Other people sell
the set as used incomplete.
|
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:33 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
|
Then sell them for a loss???
|
That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
|
And I still want to know.
| There was another thread this month about how people can get so many GWP's
and it's extremely simple and "legal".
|
I remember.
|
|
Author: | Ziegelmeister | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:31 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
|
Then sell them for a loss???
|
That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
There was another thread this month about how people can get so many GWP's
and it's extremely simple and "legal".
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:28 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
|
Then sell them for a loss???
|
|
Author: | Ziegelmeister | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:27 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:15 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
dont go that far its fully possible but in this specific case (rex without
paldron) its not but other cases like the joker from the ucs tumbler 100% is
possible (tho that may be from before your time in the forms)
|
True, heard you talking about this problem in your last vid.
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:14 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
|
You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
|
Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:13 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| | There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
|
dont go that far its fully possible but in this specific case (rex without
paldron) its not but other cases like the joker from the ucs tumbler 100% is
possible (tho that may be from before your time in the forms)
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:04 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| "random assumptions" as if there isn't a heap of information regarding
the Mexico factory & workers smuggling out minifigs in bulk... hokay buddy
what do you expect me to do? buy 4 UCS Venators, part them out, and send the
missing pauldrons to OP & solve his issue?
he already filed a paypal claim and NSS, I'm providing context as to why
this happened to him
Maybe you should read https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462560 so I don't
repeat myself
|
A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:58 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
|
careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
|
hopefully it doesn't come to that
|
It will never come to that, not my game
Im trying to follow popsicles advise
Perhaps you'll learn to understand with more nuance then. My advise is heartfelt
and lived. But I don't advise public accusation of criminal intention in
others without hearing both sides.
|
Good idea!
ps. your order will be shipped tomorrow.
|
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Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:57 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
|
careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
|
hopefully it doesn't come to that
|
It will never come to that, not my game
Im trying to follow popsicles advise
Perhaps you'll learn to understand with more nuance then. My advise is heartfelt
and lived. But I don't advise public accusation of criminal intention in
others without hearing both sides.
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:52 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
|
careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
|
hopefully it doesn't come to that Im trying to follow popsicles advise
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working
|
Popsicle said that!
|
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:50 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
|
careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
|
hopefully it doesn't come to that Im trying to follow popsicles advise
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working
|
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Author: | infinibrix | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:34 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 66 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
Your random assumptions don't really help anybody. Stick to the facts.....
The facts are that the buyer has received missing items. Everything you have
written above is pure speculation and therefore irrelevant to helping resolve
the buyers issue!
|
|
Author: | infinibrix | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:30 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
|
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:16 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
|
As I said; stop it.
All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540
"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"
without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.
|
what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario
and saying what it most likely is?
|
Good question.
|
|
Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:15 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
|
As I said; stop it.
All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540
"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"
without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.
|
what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario
and saying what it most likely is?
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:12 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
|
As I said; stop it.
All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540
"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"
without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:59 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
|
Thank you! +1
|
|
Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:57 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:53 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.
|
I admire your moxie Order placed
|
Order invoced as soon as you respond to my message.
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:51 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.
|
I admire your moxie Order placed
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:47 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:42 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Alright, I will be open for 15mins
I have a trip that I'm going on so I can't be tied to this site for days.
|
|
Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:39 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.
|
Lol, lmao even
| Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
Okay, let's go over the details
If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none
the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves
These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process
There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers
For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense
I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)
This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:
Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator
and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog
There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on
|
well put. based on all the available info the most likely scenario is they are
Mexico nightshift figures. its not a random claim to say they are most likely
stolen. it is based on all the available evidence from a problem that is by no
means unique and is incredibly common over the past few years
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:38 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Or alternatively, you can simply express your understanding of what "slanderous"
means
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:36 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:30 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:24 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 64 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:09 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:05 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Hang on just let me stop list you first
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:04 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 59 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:59 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 65 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
|
Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:50 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 66 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
|
Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:46 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 81 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
|
Author: | MiniRoz | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:22 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 73 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
I just looked at his store inventory, and he has several Employee Exclusive sets
for sale, so I’m wondering if he works at the LEGO facility in Mexico. He had
100% positive feedback when I made my purchase, but I’m now seeing that his feedback
was likely from a friend or second account. I have made dozens of purchases from
sellers in Canada that have been exceptional, so I didn’t feel I should over
scrutinize purchasing from a seller in Mexico. I’ve completed over 300 transactions
without incident, but I will obviously be more cautious moving forward.
|
|
Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:51 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
|
Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.
|
mhm, id 100% wait for Paypal to say what to do. they will likely say you have
to return it at your expense but then you are guaranteed a refund.
also, if any admins are reading this, this sellers seems to perfectly fit the
bill for one of the Mexico factory sellers so it may be prudent to look into
them.
|
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Author: | MiniRoz | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:51 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 57 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
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Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.
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Author: | MiniRoz | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:48 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 72 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
|
Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.
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Author: | stranqe | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:44 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 64 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| You are correct, the minifig should come with everything listed as its inventory
parts on bricklink. I sell a lot of clone troopers and always make sure visors,
backpacks and range finders are included if specified for that figure. How specific
was the seller in stating some parts were missing? "no accessories" you
could reasonably assume this to mean guns or lightsabers, etc. so that wouldn't
defend his actions.
Have you asked for a refund or been offered this as an option from the seller?
paypal will likely just ask you to send the items back and refund you but I
believe you would ship at your own expense.
In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:36 | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 92 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
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Author: | MiniRoz | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:26 | Subject: | DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | Viewed: | 560 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
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Author: | RebelliousBrick | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 17:53 | Subject: | Re: Being extorted for full refund | Viewed: | 77 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, starforcelego writes:
| A buyer demanded a full refund for a supposedly slightly damaged box, and cited
laws to try and threaten me. I declined over the audacity of a full refund. I
asked for pictures, and they did not provide pictures. They left an email without
any attachments claiming they were on the email. They said I was being difficult
and ceased all communication. How should I respond?
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Tell them to return the set if they want a full refund. If they refuse offer
them a partial refund (depending on the price) or wait for them to start a NSS/paypal
claim. After that I would block that buyer so he cant buy from you anymore.
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Also they are a retailer close to me and probably see me as competition. They
buy things from brick link and charge 50%+ in store. They were quite concerned
about me finding out about that part it felt. Does that impact anything?
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As it is a free market they can charge how much they want, it does not impact
anything.
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 17:39 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Stuart9 writes:
| Dog drool works for me.
Let it chew them for awhile.
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If I find I'm a tan brick short on on a order I just let a white one sit
in the sun for a day or three
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 17:01 | Subject: | Re: Being extorted for full refund | Viewed: | 57 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, starforcelego writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| I wouldn't worry. worst case scenario they file a Paypal claim however at
that point Paypal would make them return the set to you at their expense. you
should be good to go. (unless you advertised the box as perfect condition and
set unrealistic expectations or something)
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If the box was advertised in excellent condition would paypal let them keep the
lego set AND a refund?
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probably not, in general, if its arrived and you sent the right thing Paypal
will usually just make them return it if they want a refund
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Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 16:54 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| Dog drool works for me.
Let it chew them for awhile.
In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, SylvainLS writes:
| In Problem Order, Stuart9 writes:
| I use one of these, don’t you ?
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I clean my New parts only with natural products, like acetone
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I like using raw oil to keep the rubber tires and bands stretchy
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 16:52 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, SylvainLS writes:
| In Problem Order, Stuart9 writes:
| I use one of these, don’t you ?
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I clean my New parts only with natural products, like acetone
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I like using raw oil to keep the rubber tires and bands stretchy
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 16:49 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Stuart9 writes:
| I use one of these, don’t you ?
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No I'm so eager to do it I don't have the patience!
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 16:47 | Subject: | Re: Being extorted for full refund | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| I wouldn't worry. worst case scenario they file a Paypal claim however at
that point Paypal would make them return the set to you at their expense. you
should be good to go. (unless you advertised the box as perfect condition and
set unrealistic expectations or something)
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 16:39 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Stuart9 writes:
| I use one of these, don’t you ?
|
I clean my New parts only with natural products, like acetone
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Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 16:33 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| I use one of these, don’t you ?
In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| Ah yes, the common problem of accidentally scrubbing the Lego logo off of the
bricks... I hate when that happens!
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Especially when I accidentally do it to brand new never before used parts!
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It's a compulsion
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 16:09 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| Ah yes, the common problem of accidentally scrubbing the Lego logo off of the
bricks... I hate when that happens!
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Especially when I accidentally do it to brand new never before used parts!
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It's a compulsion
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 14:21 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| Ah yes, the common problem of accidentally scrubbing the Lego logo off of the
bricks... I hate when that happens!
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Especially when I accidentally do it to brand new never before used parts!
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 14:17 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, yorbrick writes:
| In Problem Order, StarBrick writes:
| What action is required to have this former seller access the selling side again
with a new account and repeating what he did before?
Is there an IP-check? (useless when using VPN I guess?)
Is there an ID-check?
How is TLG in general protecting the users of BrickLink for these loopholes?
I know, when I put easter eggs instead of Lego bricks in a shipment, TLG can
not prevent me from doing so. But it's kind of scary.....
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Probably none. I imagine that is why they deregister rather than get suspended.
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Creating an account: they at least check e-mail and address (real, don’t know
for IP: everyone doesn’t have a fixed IP).
Becoming a seller: The new seller verification process asks for real ID and stuff.
Preventing that kind of whack-a-mole game was why it was set in place.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 13:54 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, StarBrick writes:
| What action is required to have this former seller access the selling side again
with a new account and repeating what he did before?
Is there an IP-check? (useless when using VPN I guess?)
Is there an ID-check?
How is TLG in general protecting the users of BrickLink for these loopholes?
I know, when I put easter eggs instead of Lego bricks in a shipment, TLG can
not prevent me from doing so. But it's kind of scary.....
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Probably none. I imagine that is why they deregister rather than get suspended.
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Author: | StarBrick | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 13:16 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| What action is required to have this former seller access the selling side again
with a new account and repeating what he did before?
Is there an IP-check? (useless when using VPN I guess?)
Is there an ID-check?
How is TLG in general protecting the users of BrickLink for these loopholes?
I know, when I put easter eggs instead of Lego bricks in a shipment, TLG can
not prevent me from doing so. But it's kind of scary.....
|
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 12:55 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
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Here's his paypal comment on the dispute.
"Hello I can assure you that all my Legos are official. I had them cleaned
thoroughly since they were in my garage for 10+ years hence why maybe the lego
logo dose not show up or may look different The Lego pieces came from the Lego
store, pick up brick wall"
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That would even help you more as 1, here refers to the plural of lego wrong so
he must not be a hardcore fan and 2 since you said he sold them as new he’s contradict
himself here by saying that sat in garage for years and he had to clean them
to the point the logo disappeared
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Author: | BackAgain1 | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 08:55 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 85 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
Here's his paypal comment on the dispute.
"Hello I can assure you that all my Legos are official. I had them cleaned
thoroughly since they were in my garage for 10+ years hence why maybe the lego
logo dose not show up or may look different The Lego pieces came from the Lego
store, pick up brick wall"
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 02:17 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 77 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| | And he's no longer registered. headhunter_odst (193) Is the seller.
|
It is good the account is no longer active, although not being registered suggests
they made that choice rather than being suspended or banned.
In the future, do yourself a favour and check feedback for selling before buying
from a store. The recent ones wouldn't have been there when you placed the
order, but there would have been older feedback indicating issues with this store.
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Author: | TheBrickGuys | Posted: | Mar 28, 2024 01:32 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 65 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
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16 pieces in the order all Lepin or some knock off.
The problem with order page is confusing. When I click that my only option is
"Cancel this order" with a selected radio button that I can't unselect
and a Take Action button making it seem if I file a complaint I'm trying
to cancel the order. Do I have to wait for a few days to pass before I can really
do anything?
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And he's no longer registered. headhunter_odst (193) Is the seller.
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I noticed that your the 5th negative feedback he has received in the past couple
of weeks for selling fake Lego - on top of another 8 negative for selling used
as new over the past year. So a total of 13 negatives out of 57 total feedbacks
for selling - SCUM.
Jim
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Author: | BackAgain1 | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 23:06 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
16 pieces in the order all Lepin or some knock off.
The problem with order page is confusing. When I click that my only option is
"Cancel this order" with a selected radio button that I can't unselect
and a Take Action button making it seem if I file a complaint I'm trying
to cancel the order. Do I have to wait for a few days to pass before I can really
do anything?
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And he's no longer registered. headhunter_odst (193) Is the seller.
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Author: | Ziegelmeister | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 23:04 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| 16 pieces in the order all Lepin or some knock off.
|
!!!! Yikes! yes, please report them immediately.
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Author: | BackAgain1 | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 23:02 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 78 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
16 pieces in the order all Lepin or some knock off.
The problem with order page is confusing. When I click that my only option is
"Cancel this order" with a selected radio button that I can't unselect
and a Take Action button making it seem if I file a complaint I'm trying
to cancel the order. Do I have to wait for a few days to pass before I can really
do anything?
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Author: | runner.caller | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 11:59 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 77 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
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I once ordered a few 100 used 2X4 bricks in any color for filler, and one piece
showed up as a mega-block. I tossed it in my off brand pile and pulled an authentic
lego piece from my bulk. I didn't bother the seller as it had the appearance
of an honest mistake on a low value piece.
Sounds like what you're describing is the whole order is off brand and not
NEW as advertised. This is a very different scenario, and the previous advice
given by other users is your best bet.
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Author: | Admin_Russell | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 11:46 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 126 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, 1001bricks writes:
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
Negative and NSS are almost secondary.
This isn't allowed here - immediately REPORT this member here:
https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
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Yes, thank you. This is the most effective thing to make sure it doesn't
happen to others.
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Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 11:13 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 82 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| Do any have Lego markings of any sort ?
Photo’s ?
In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
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Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 11:00 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 71 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
Negative and NSS are almost secondary.
This isn't allowed here - immediately REPORT this member here:
https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
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Author: | jennnifer | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 10:58 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 67 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
Pictures?
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Author: | Ziegelmeister | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 10:51 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
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The entire order was Lepin? Could you leave negative feedback so we can all
go blacklist them?
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Author: | Tloftus | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 10:35 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 56 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
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as a buyer i need to know what store this was to keep away from or blacklist,
i can't have that kind of negativity in my life.
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Author: | JusTiCe8 | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 10:24 | Subject: | Re: BL refund (as buyer) not received | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| Thanks for your replies.
In Problem Order, yorbrick writes:
| Bricklink cannot help you here. If it was paid outside of Bricklink, the refund
has to be done via PayPal and not via Bricklink. Even if it was done via onsite
payment, Bricklink would not be able to refund you, it would still need to be
initiated by the seller.
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ok
| How do you know that the seller's account has been debited?
|
This is what he told me.
Anyway, I've explained the situation and get an actual refund through paypal.
Regards.
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Author: | Brickman4you | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 10:05 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 73 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
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Help the community by leaving them negative feedback.
Others will be able to see the store name in "Show me feedback that you left
about others", in your profile.
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?p=BackAgain1
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Author: | LeeGo73 | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 09:29 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 80 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
Giving the seller a negative feedback will help other buyers to avoid this seller.
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Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 09:03 | Subject: | Re: Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 83 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, BackAgain1 writes:
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
NSS & PayPal claim
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Author: | BackAgain1 | Posted: | Mar 27, 2024 08:57 | Subject: | Ordered new Lego, sold me used Lepin pieces | Viewed: | 308 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| You gotta be kidding me!
This is the first time this has happened to me in a lot of orders on here.
I ordered what was supposed to be new Lego pieces.
I received used Lepin or other off-brand pieces. One stud on each piece is indented
where the Lego logo would go.
These people should not be allowed to operate on here. Go sell that junk on
fleabay.
|
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Mar 26, 2024 08:42 | Subject: | Re: BL refund (as buyer) not received | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, JusTiCe8 writes:
| Hi,
I have an order and following a little issue, seller have issued a refund through
BL.
On the order page, there is a refund frame with the amount.
But, as I've paid using paypal outside BL, I guess refund cannot be
done but there is no error reported, seller's account have been debited the
amount and it looks like to have gone into nowhere ! I didn't receive any
communication from BL for now on this matter.
If someone at BL wish to help, order is 24614935.
Any help will be much appreciated.
Regards.
|
Bricklink cannot help you here. If it was paid outside of Bricklink, the refund
has to be done via PayPal and not via Bricklink. Even if it was done via onsite
payment, Bricklink would not be able to refund you, it would still need to be
initiated by the seller.
How do you know that the seller's account has been debited?
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Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Mar 26, 2024 08:36 | Subject: | Re: BL refund (as buyer) not received | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, JusTiCe8 writes:
| Hi,
I have an order and following a little issue, seller have issued a refund through
BL.
On the order page, there is a refund frame with the amount.
But, as I've paid using paypal outside BL, I guess refund cannot be
done but there is no error reported
|
The seller has to issue a refund through PayPal, since it was paid offsite I
don't think there is anything BL can do.
| seller's account have been debited the
amount and it looks like to have gone into nowhere
|
I doubt the seller's PayPal account has been debited - for offsite payments
BL only records the refund, it doesn't process any refund.
|
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Author: | JusTiCe8 | Posted: | Mar 26, 2024 07:48 | Subject: | BL refund (as buyer) not received | Viewed: | 126 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| Hi,
I have an order and following a little issue, seller have issued a refund through
BL.
On the order page, there is a refund frame with the amount.
But, as I've paid using paypal outside BL, I guess refund cannot be
done but there is no error reported, seller's account have been debited the
amount and it looks like to have gone into nowhere ! I didn't receive any
communication from BL for now on this matter.
If someone at BL wish to help, order is 24614935.
Any help will be much appreciated.
Regards.
|
Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 25, 2024 18:37 | Subject: | Re: How do I remove part of an order | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| the simplest way is to refund the items is paid and if not paid then to add a
credit to the order amount for them
|
Author: | gylman | Posted: | Mar 25, 2024 18:30 | Subject: | How do I remove part of an order | Viewed: | 80 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| Buyer ordered several items from my store, but I could not find a couple of them.
Buyer is willing to go ahead with the rest of the order. Is there a way to
delete just the items that I don't have? Rather than cancel the whole order
and have the buyer re-do it?
Thanks
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Author: | kittybrickz | Posted: | Mar 25, 2024 17:47 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| | |
off topic, I'm interested to know other countries that you have had systemic
problems shipping to?
|
Middle East, especially UAE where an important number of orders were largely
delayed or bounced back. Maybe Customs are picky, I really don't know
|
Good to know! Thanky!
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Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Mar 25, 2024 08:13 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, kittybrickz writes:
| | I do have problems while shipping to South America, in a general meaning.
Either it's lost or delayed.
|
off topic, I'm interested to know other countries that you have had systemic
problems shipping to?
|
Middle East, especially UAE where an important number of orders were largely
delayed or bounced back. Maybe Customs are picky, I really don't know
|
Author: | kittybrickz | Posted: | Mar 25, 2024 02:34 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 61 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| | I do have problems while shipping to South America, in a general meaning.
Either it's lost or delayed.
|
off topic, I'm interested to know other countries that you have had systemic
problems shipping to?
Have an epic day! ---Katrina
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 25, 2024 00:47 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| Mhm but in the eyes of bricklink its a bit confusing as even tho something like
receiving an incorrect item qualifies for a nss they also accept tracking which
is unrelated to the problem as a solution and will close it (at least to my understanding)
|
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Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Mar 24, 2024 18:13 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | File the NSS for sure, that will give them a STRIKE against their account and
2 more and they get shut down!
|
only if its completed. if the seller "resolves" it with bricklink by
either refunding or sending proof of shipping it will get taken down
|
It was figured out by the buyer that the head is the wrong type.
That, to me, would suggest that the seller sent something that is "Item not
as described".
It would be on the seller to ensure that the correct item is sent to the buyer.
There's actually some guidelines I found that the seller has to abide by
online. See link below.
If BrickLink administrators have seen this, they know there are legal obligations
that Australians have to meet, and one in particular would be that they have
to send the correct item or refund.
I live in Australia and if the government got a complaint about an Australian
seller, they would be unfunny about dealing with it.
These guidelines I found online are a little out of date, but they do give a
fair idea of what the legal requirements for Australian sellers are:
https://www.ato.gov.au/other-languages/information-in-other-languages/gst/goods-and-services-tax-gst-when-you-sell-to-australia
Cheers ...
ghyde
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Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Mar 24, 2024 18:08 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 56 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| My experience combined with the anecdotal of others I personally know living
and working within each of the regions and respective systems, it would be ill-advised
not to.
|
I do have problems while shipping to South America, in a general meaning.
Either it's lost or delayed.
One of my orders arrived... 7 months later, and the buyer was kind enough to
not complain in any way! What a gem!
Now this specific OP has a problem on an specific order content; it could not
be related to generic corruption of Customs, Postal services, Police, Justice
etc - of course, assuming there is.
| But you being you Sylvain. Gotta have those such as you to keep it spinning
|
Guinea pig keeps on spinning the wheel for now, very proud!
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Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Mar 24, 2024 17:38 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, 1001bricks writes:
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Seph6 writes:
| Hello, I recently purchased a minifigure from someone abroad. After some time,
and after paying almost the same amount as the purchase in taxes, it arrived.
I was so happy that I immediately gave him a nice praise. But then I realized
that the head of one of the figures was wrong. It had a similar head, but cheaper
than the one it should have come with. After that, the salesperson was very arrogant
and said that I had to comply with three solutions he presented, which I found
unacceptable. What I wanted was for him to pay for the right head of the minifigure
plus shipping to my country (as I couldn't find that head here). I have already
filled out an NSS but I am confused about what happens then. Will I ever get
compensation? Will he be punished? Is there any way I can change my praise to
a complaint?
|
After reading through the entire thread with your replies and the attitude
conveyed, I thank you. Actually feel better about having long ago removed Brazil
from our ship-to countries. Thanks again
|
A whole Country ban can't be justified because don't like the behaviour
of 1 person!?
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Just one?
If it's systemic my fine Gallic friend, yes you can, and indeed should until
change is enacted within the system those true victims of corruption live. It
is in fact, why I've begrudgingly removed those specific regions years ago.
My experience combined with the anecdotal of others I personally know living
and working within each of the regions and respective systems, it would be ill-advised
not to.
But you being you Sylvain. Gotta have those such as you to keep it spinning
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Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Mar 24, 2024 17:13 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| In Problem Order, Seph6 writes:
| Hello, I recently purchased a minifigure from someone abroad. After some time,
and after paying almost the same amount as the purchase in taxes, it arrived.
I was so happy that I immediately gave him a nice praise. But then I realized
that the head of one of the figures was wrong. It had a similar head, but cheaper
than the one it should have come with. After that, the salesperson was very arrogant
and said that I had to comply with three solutions he presented, which I found
unacceptable. What I wanted was for him to pay for the right head of the minifigure
plus shipping to my country (as I couldn't find that head here). I have already
filled out an NSS but I am confused about what happens then. Will I ever get
compensation? Will he be punished? Is there any way I can change my praise to
a complaint?
|
After reading through the entire thread with your replies and the attitude
conveyed, I thank you. Actually feel better about having long ago removed Brazil
from our ship-to countries. Thanks again
|
A whole Country ban can't be justified because don't like the behaviour
of 1 person!?
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Author: | popsicle | Posted: | Mar 24, 2024 17:09 | Subject: | Re: The order came wrong | Viewed: | 59 times | Topic: | Problem Order | |
| In Problem Order, Seph6 writes:
| | After reading through the entire thread with your replies and the attitude
conveyed, I thank you. Actually feel better about having long ago removed Brazil
from our ship-to countries. Thanks again
|
I find your comment extremely unfair. All I did was try to fight for my rights.
This was the first purchase I made internationally that arrived, all the others
I made there were problems with some, but in the end I either solved the problem
or let it go. I just wanted the seller to pay attention, I only ordered two minifigures,
for a total of seven pieces. There was one time, this other purchase where I
ordered more than a hundred pieces. When it arrived, I promised myself I would
forgive the seller if he had forgotten some, yet they all arrived.
Now, let me thank you on behalf of all Brazilians. It's refreshing that we
can't buy from someone as prejudiced as you.
There was another person who mentioned that complaining could get me banned and
let me say that I'd rather be banned than sit in silence.
And I also want to warmly thank everyone who responded to this thread. I don't
think I'll get any kind of compensation, but it's good to see how many
people were willing to help.
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You're willingness to wholly accept and enact the vindictive advise of others
is enough for me. I'm sure you're now embolden to move onto other vendors
with the same abuse... As far as I'm concerned: kick rocks and have at it
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