Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | Familybuild | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 08:34 | Subject: | Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2 | Viewed: | 120 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi folks.
Yesterday i received an order of a regular customer.
He ordered parts from the 1x1 square tile , and 1x2 tile.
If i packed the order blindly i would have sent him the with groove variant.
The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.
The tile's where not on the list for merging?
Or maby on the "original" list but scrapped from merging i believe.
This is causing a major headache.
But because i know this customer almost exclusive buys old parts.
I messaged him about this problem and indeed he needed the without groove variant.
Please clearify this.
Also i would like to know why remarks are not consolidated?
Is this because bricklink will sent me a guy/girl that will relocate any "lost"
pieces in ghost drawers?
As a strategist i tend to see a long term goal to relocate people from second
hand market towards the PAB wall. A fee from a bricklink sale is way less then
the full cut they get other wise. People can only take so much "pain"
to look for older parts and are not willing to invest an increasing amount of
time to complete something. Also the complete silence from TLG regarding the
upcomming and current turbulences from this merge are quite worrying to me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Best wishes
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Author: | Saitobricks.ca | Posted: | Mar 8, 2024 21:38 | Subject: | A blessing or a curse? | Viewed: | 132 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Was looking through the list of gear not yet inventoried, and saw a catagory
titled "puzzle".
The thought immediately entered my mind, "Should I inventory it?"
Hmm this will be easy.
Only three parts!
Ooowwwee...
1000 Parts!!!
Would it be right to inventory a puzzle?
Pro, when you are missing a peice just buy it.
Con, think of the work!!
Should I try to do it?
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Author: | matthi | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 18:43 | Subject: | fake part added, asking to delete | Viewed: | 171 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi,
few years ago I've added few hundreds of qpart (prototype) colors to the
database. sadly I've had a fake counterpart in my collection.
The blue Emmet part id 15443 is fake.
As some know area 2018 6-7 types of headgears and hairs popped up in 5 similar
colors , all with same partnr 95222 inside. With the lego logo and copyright.
I never checked then the partnr, as it had a logo, but the color blue was a bit
off color, also more friction then other hairs.
So I like to request to delete this counterpart from the data list and send my
apologies. 30€ wasted :o
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Author: | MecaOne | Posted: | Mar 1, 2024 00:55 | Subject: | 7317: 30585a vs 30585b | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello, this is my first time posting to the inventories forum. I recently purchased
a used, incomplete copy of 7317 online (not Bricklink). This set is known for
having a revision where 4 of the instances of part 30585a were replaced with
part 30585b, with the longer connection point for the pneumatic tubes. The revision
also replaces a 2x4 brick with 2 2x2 inverted slopes.
The copy I purchased reflected this revision-- however, all 13 of
the tube joiners were the longer 30585b variant. As this "parts lot"
additionally included a complete 7314 the seller wasn't aware of, with the
rubber bands still in their original bag, as well as the instructions and box
for 7317, I'm inclined to believe this is a genuine variant from an extremely
casual, not very knowledgeable fan and clearly not someone who went to Bricklink
just to buy 9 more of the 30585b variant to swap in to the set for some reason.
I was wondering if anyone else had noticed the same with their copy, though I
understand given this was a used copy it may not meet Bricklink's requirements
to be cataloged as a third version of the set.
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Author: | EDOM | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 04:15 | Subject: | Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | Viewed: | 119 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
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Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.
On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
Now my question is: Why?
Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
and are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.
I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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Author: | minifig_75 | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 11:40 | Subject: | PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | Viewed: | 189 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
It's SO UNBELIEVABLE, I didn't get any mail from the BL team saying there
was a major issue since the variant merge...
Please, has anyone noticed this issue?
are there any other bugs??
Thanks!
Soon
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Author: | andyb181279 | Posted: | Feb 22, 2024 08:57 | Subject: | Personal set inventory | Viewed: | 81 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi all
How do you find out which parts for a set you have in your inventory without
going through everything?
My daughter found a part she likes and I told her if I have all parts we can
build it
Many thanks
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Author: | Apollo_123 | Posted: | Feb 16, 2024 20:30 | Subject: | Note to inventories admin | Viewed: | 97 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi
I was upload an inventory of a part and reached the "note to inventories
admin" box and did not understand what I should include in that message.
For context the part I was inventorying was a motorcycle from an old city set
that I used to have in my collection that I am now parting out and noticed the
bike had no inventory. I bought the set sealed when it was released so I am sure
that the parts are the correct one of the assembly.
Thanks
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Author: | pcthurman | Posted: | Feb 4, 2024 22:34 | Subject: | Why is Mack not considered a minifigure? | Viewed: | 164 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| In set Why is Mack not considered a minifigure? I do not see a difference
between Mack or Lightning other than size and well yes Mack has a trailer but
in the movies he is a character. So why the difference?
Cass T
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Author: | michaeljeru | Posted: | Feb 3, 2024 04:01 | Subject: | How to add a minifigure in a inventory ? | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi,
I've created my first inventory submission for the new set 76275.
I can't find how to add the 2 minifigures (including sh946 whose submission
is pending approval) to set inventory ?
I try to add it using the form under the inventory, but wether I try the new
sh946 or the existing sh684, none is found...
Thanks for your help by advance.
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Author: | archmage | Posted: | Jan 25, 2024 13:06 | Subject: | 3847 vs 3847a | Viewed: | 105 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello everyone.
I know that Bricklink is close to operate significant variations merge operations
on its inventory, so I don't know if the subject part is also part of this
operations (but I hope it will).
I have used very often Bricklink inventory as reference to complete my sets,
but lately I have noticed that part 3847 seems to have replaced part 3847a in
many old castle sets inventory, and not as an alternate part.
As a lego-castle loving child and then adult I have owned and built many of the
sets I see now listed with 3847 swords and in my experience they doesn't
appear in most of the ones I recall or still have built for exposition.
This post in not meant to be a rant about something I see as a discrepancy, but
more curiosity about how you're dealing with that. For instance I assembled
set 1596 and 1547: both show in the box photos a 3847a sword, but both have as
inventory only a 3847 sword. Should I list them as incomplete, or being a mold
variant I should not?
Thank you for your time and, maybe, answer
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Author: | kittybrickz | Posted: | Jan 22, 2024 15:51 | Subject: | part out inventory | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi!
I read somewhere that users can submit an inventory list for a set, how do I
go about that?
Have an epic day!
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Author: | Steineflut | Posted: | Jan 19, 2024 09:59 | Subject: | gs014 includes weapons? | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello there,
any particular reason why gs014 includes his weapons? I just stumbled across
it and thought it was weird.
Thanks,
Nadine
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Author: | s.j.stegeman | Posted: | Jan 16, 2024 13:55 | Subject: | Inventory change for set 8877 | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Item 32140 is incorrectly in the inventory of set 8877. This should be part 32526,
the amount (4) is correct. See page 26-27 and 51-52 of the instruction booklet
of this set
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Author: | 1977_mauro | Posted: | Jan 12, 2024 03:07 | Subject: | Due to the upcoming variants merge do you... | Viewed: | 197 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| ...still will differentiate the merged variants using the comment field?
Choose:
a) yes
b) no
c) not sure yet
Keep in mind that it won't be visible anymore in the old set inventories
which variant has been used.
Thanks Mauro
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Author: | eritas | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 21:05 | Subject: | Flag in another set? | Viewed: | 112 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| I have part x376px6 (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=x376px6#T=C),
the large lion flag from the Royal Knights collection. Bricklink says it's
only in one set, Royal Knight's Castle, and I know I never had that set (waaaay
too expensive for my parents to buy).
Does anyone know where it might be in another set? I can't find it anywhere,
but obviously I've got it. I want to say it was an individual mini fig, sold
with maybe a horse and the red lion cape (which also says it's only in one
set).
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Author: | Zab3uk75 | Posted: | Dec 28, 2023 13:30 | Subject: | Castle 6059 Black Knights | Viewed: | 103 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi, can any one confirm the head gear plumes in this set.
The inventory (Bricklink) shows
Plume feather small 4502a x 1
plume feather large 4502c x 1
The instructions show neither of these (perhaps I have missed them) but does
show
plume feather triple 4502b
Thanks for your help.
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Author: | SDF_Bricks | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 03:25 | Subject: | BrickLink vs. Rebrickable Discrepancies | Viewed: | 123 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| I often use Rebrickable to check inventories as they have a nice 'view'
where parts are shown large and easy to identify. I have not found a similar
view in Bricklink.
Lately however, I noticed there are discrepancies between the two systems. I
was under the impression these were from the same source, but apparently not.
Anyone has info on this issue?
Thank You
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Author: | simonrjensen | Posted: | Dec 10, 2023 07:40 | Subject: | Gringotts Wizarding Bank | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi
Hasn't it taken very long with inventory approval on Gringotts Wizarding
Bank?
It's been over 3 months since it came on the market :o
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Author: | Gumguy529 | Posted: | Dec 8, 2023 11:07 | Subject: | Change/Add inventory | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| To whom it may concern,
I am not able to get the add new inventory item form to work. It keeps giving
me an error message. I am trying to notify Bricklink that set 8158-1 is missing
a stickered part number and picture. It will not let me submit anything due
to errors in the processing of the forum submission. However there is no way
to fix the errors.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve
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Author: | BondBricks | Posted: | Oct 19, 2023 15:20 | Subject: | string length in set 6462 Aerial Recovery | Viewed: | 98 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello,
I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:
x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)
I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?
How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?
Thanks,
Mark
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Author: | Ngtevan | Posted: | Oct 18, 2023 02:42 | Subject: | Consolidation Noob | Viewed: | 111 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| So, I tried consolidating my inventory only to now have both lot ids listed and
the inventory is now off. Is there any way of back tracking to the inventory
before the consolidation?
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Author: | mateusz_welka | Posted: | Oct 12, 2023 12:04 | Subject: | 77013 inventory mistake | Viewed: | 88 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Dear admin
I already bought my new set and cheked inventory.
In extra parts there is no additional hat 1849pb01.
Best regards
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Author: | alexandrelego | Posted: | Oct 6, 2023 11:27 | Subject: | Head 3626bpx120 variants | Viewed: | 67 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello,
I have some 3626bpx120 heads with pattern variations (thin moustache and beard,
moustache touching mouth, different moustache shapes). The difference is very
visible.
Is it known if some belong to a specific set/time period or are they just random
variations?
Thanks,
Alexandre
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Author: | jaybinx73 | Posted: | Oct 3, 2023 15:19 | Subject: | starting a bricklink parts/pieces store | Viewed: | 77 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| I currently have only sold sets and a few minifigures on Bricklink. I have a
Huge inventory of pieces I've acquired buying random sets/lots. Dumb question,
but I'm assuming I have to just manually add everything piece by piece into
my inventory, right? I've been putting this off due to the time it's
going to take hoping there is an easier way.
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Author: | Pixiebec | Posted: | Sep 30, 2023 07:53 | Subject: | Inventory addition for K1062-1 road safety | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi, this kit came with a copy of the highway code but I couldn't work out
how to add it to the inventory. Has anyone got any tips on how to do this? Thanks.
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Author: | jonwil | Posted: | Sep 27, 2023 07:36 | Subject: | per-bag inventory for the looping coaster? | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Does anyone know if there is an inventory out there for the individual bags of
the looping coaster?
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Author: | jennnifer | Posted: | Sep 24, 2023 08:31 | Subject: | Thank you Bonacieux! | Viewed: | 102 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello,
I just wanted to say thanks for all the undetermined parts you have corrected
this past week! It's a great help for the Catalog. You have quite a collection.
~Jen
PS...If anyone is interested in learning how to quickly submit a correction when
they come across an undetermined part in an inventory or part-out, just let me
know.
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Author: | sandman | Posted: | Sep 20, 2023 04:41 | Subject: | Zero part quantity in inventory | Viewed: | 60 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi
BrickStore's database regeneration run just found out that set
has a few lots where the quantity is 0 (and it didn't like that )
I think that's the first set ever that has this problem.
Thanks for looking into this!
Robert
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Author: | Darth_Smithy | Posted: | Sep 19, 2023 09:36 | Subject: | Alternate part (and book) for 6927-1 | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
|
I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.
Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.
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Author: | abriggs | Posted: | Sep 15, 2023 17:03 | Subject: | Number of parts correction for set 7631 | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Need an inventory correction for set 7631. There are a total of six of part
32059 in the set.
32059 Yellow Wedge, Plate 4 x 6 Cut Corners
Catalog: Parts: Wedge, Plate
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Author: | mophead | Posted: | Sep 15, 2023 13:47 | Subject: | set 75893 | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| set 75893 inventory of stickered parts: there are at least 8 stickered parts
not accounted for in the inventory? just wondering why?
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Author: | SDF_Bricks | Posted: | Sep 10, 2023 00:53 | Subject: | Set 8637 Missing Parts 2× 48729b | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Incidentally, the part shows up in the 'extra items' list, but not in
the main inventory
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Author: | enig | Posted: | Sep 5, 2023 08:48 | Subject: | 10152-3 stickers | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
|
Inventory should be 2x of these:
and 3x of
But what we pulled from a sealed sticker-pouch is the other way around - we got
three white sheets and two grey ones.
Maybe someone recalls having the same issue, or perhaps have seen/bought second-had
sets with the stickered containers matching this pattern?
I wonder if this is just a freak accident and no alternate variant is needed
in the inventory, or we do actually need to add the variant. If this has happened
before - there might be used sets floating around that are 'invalid/incomplete'
due to this.
Additionally. The 2006 variant (10152-3), apparently, had some hiccups with the
production because of TLG being short on some parts? Read:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1022655
Perhaps they were short on more than one thing, resulting in shipping sets with
different counts of the sticker sheets as well?
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Author: | WOLKsite | Posted: | Aug 29, 2023 07:12 | Subject: | Extra Ammo in BIONICLE Protector sets | Viewed: | 59 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| In regards to the following sets:
As of this writing, these currently are listed as containing 6x 4073, with 7x
4073 as extras; all included as ammo for 18588's.
Obviously, one 4073 is almost always included as an extra, but the other 6 here
serve as extra ammunition, much like what would included as part of the main
inventory of other sets using 18588 - afaik, this is an inconsistency that exists
purely with these 6 sets (released as part of the same wave that introduced the
launcher).
In the instruction manuals, only six 4073 are included, and this lines up with
the piece count on the box. However, the inventory in LEGO's database has
twelve 4073, and LEGO Shop also listed the sets with a piece count of 6 higher
than that of the box listing.
Given that later sets pretty consistently treat these kinds of extra ammo pieces
as part of the set, wouldn't it be the instruction manual and box that are
erroneous here?
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Author: | Sterra | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 23:36 | Subject: | Please add Alternative pieces for 41682 | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Please add stickered pieces as alternates for Heartlake City School (41682)
59349 Medium Nougat with sticker with music sheet and instramants
59349 Medium Nougat with sticker with 3 shelves with books and flasks
59349 Medium Nougat with sticker with 3 drawings and paint supplies
59349 White with sticker with soap, paper towel dispenser and graffitee
59349 White with two stickers 4 posters on one side and white board doodling
on other
I have an incomplete set but have verified all pieces with the sticker sheet
listed and online instructions.
Thanks
Sandra
TerraBrick
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Author: | jgrossman1025 | Posted: | Aug 26, 2023 08:48 | Subject: | Only allowing Figure/Set purchases | Viewed: | 89 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello,
I was wondering if it is possible to make it so my store is only selling sets
and figures and nobody can buy any of the parts. Is there anyway to do this?
I am too busy to pack big parts orders but packing up sets for me does not take
long, so I want to reopen that part of my store.
Thanks, Noah
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Author: | bsjack13 | Posted: | Aug 22, 2023 11:16 | Subject: | Inventory of your Store | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| What is the best way/process to do an inventory of your store? I'd like
to just print off a list with pictures, maybe checkboxes, and sort it by "Remarks",
which is how I know where my inventory is located in the store.
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Author: | stranqe | Posted: | Aug 21, 2023 17:34 | Subject: | Parting out bags from a set? | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| So I have a few sets that are missing a bag or two, does bricklink support a
way to auto part out a set if I know which bags I have and which I'm missing
for a set?
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Author: | BigHero6 | Posted: | Aug 17, 2023 14:09 | Subject: | How to adjust Items to a Set | Viewed: | 68 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello,
in the LEGO House we get the 40534 LEGO House Exclusive Chef Minifigure 2022
polybag .
There ist a set in the list https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=40534-1#T=P
But there are no items requested.
I know how to ad items to a Set, but not, when there are no items. Can you please
help me?
Thank You
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Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Aug 12, 2023 15:00 | Subject: | Which category? | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Twin pack of books, one information book ( front ) the other is a sticker book.
Which category should this be entered into ?
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Author: | BlackPrime121 | Posted: | Aug 10, 2023 15:47 | Subject: | Inventory Deletion Request | Viewed: | 146 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Inventory Deletion Request
Please delete the entire inventory
Thanks a lot
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Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Aug 5, 2023 21:36 | Subject: | Inventory for 75359 contains incorrect torsos | Viewed: | 74 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
|
I have this set and looked it up on BrickLink and apparently there are orange
and red torsos in it.
However, the sealed box I have contains none of these torsos in the images on
the box. The minifigs for this set appear to have been added to the Catalog.
I was looking into a suitable set that I might resell if I can get sufficient
quantities of it for some quick cash, as finances are tight at present.
This set is very new, hopefully the incorrect torso elements will be corrected
before release!
Cataloging new sets seems to have a lot of ups and downs! Hopefully it won't
take too long to get it all sorted.
I'm not sure if this is the correct topic but it seems like the logical choice
for the issues with this set.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Aug 5, 2023 16:57 | Subject: | Inventory problems with 10316-1 Rivendell | Viewed: | 109 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi all,
According to the instructions, LEGO made sure to include an equal number of left
and right elements (see pic).
But I used all the right ones during the build and there’s none left at the end
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Author: | WOLKsite | Posted: | Jul 25, 2023 08:21 | Subject: | 57587 in Trans-Medium Blue? | Viewed: | 92 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| is listed as having in Trans-Medium Blue
However, all the images of it looks like Trans-Dark Blue, which is also what
LEGO customer service says: https://brickset.com/sets/containing-part-4502597
Does anyone have the set and able to compare the piece to other trans-blue parts?
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Author: | cynbins | Posted: | Jul 17, 2023 15:36 | Subject: | Inventory adjustment for 77013-1 | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| In the extra parts there is listed 1849pb01 as an extra included in this set
and that is not correct.
This piece is for the Indiana Jones minifig iaj049.
I found this out when someone bought the hats as extras, and I had to take my
full figs apart to sell them to the customer.
Please correct this in the system.
Cynbin Bricks
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Author: | FantasyBricks | Posted: | Jul 12, 2023 17:47 | Subject: | Set 41004 Arch Color Difference | Viewed: | 72 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hello,
I noticed that the 1 x 12 x 3 arch in set 41004 is different when comparing the
photos of the instructions and original box versus the photos of the built set.
The instructions and original box show this arch as Medium Lavender and the
built set photos show it as a Light Bluish Grey.
There is no mention of the arch being Light Bluish Grey. If the arch is not
ever Light Bluish Grey, then the 2 built photos are inaccurate. I do not own
this set, so I cannot verify the accuracy of this.
Also, this set is part of a bundle pack:
* | | 66455-1 (Inv) Friends Bundle Pack, Super Pack 3 in 1 (Sets 41004, 41005, and 41013) 3 Sets, 2013 Sets: Friends |
I wanted to mention this so somebody may correct this and/or add a note about
this.
Thank you,
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Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Jul 7, 2023 15:34 | Subject: | How to view inventory for 41757-1 while pend? | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
|
I picked up this set set from a store recently, and I'd like to open it and
verify the contents.
Is there a way that I can view the contents of the set that have so far been
inventoried on BrickLink?
Cheers ...
ghyde
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