Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | TheHatter13  | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 16:45 | | Subject: | Re: How to download size and comments columns | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, Dino writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.
The tile's where not on the list for merging?
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They haven't been merged there are still separate entries for normal (with
groove) and without groove.
They have been renamed to remove the "with groove" from the modern part
(well, 40 years old, but non-vintage part), and also renumbered from 3069b to
3069 and so on, so that the BL number correctly references the number that has
been used for about four decades and is not influenced by a part that hasn't
been produced for almost half a century.
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3070a should actually be 3070 and 3070 should be 3070a. The same with 3069/3069a.
3070a has been around since 1965, 3070 only since 1972. 3 letters would also
be saved.
But what can you ask of the catalogue administrators in the meantime...
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According to Russell, the 3069b and 3070b were never the grooved variety but
have always been the umbrella entity. The chosen renumbering reflects that.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2 | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| | | 3070a should actually be 3070 and 3070 should be 3070a. The same with 3069/3069a.
3070a has been around since 1965, 3070 only since 1972. 3 letters would also
be saved.
But what can you ask of the catalogue administrators in the meantime...
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I disagree. It should not be based on what came first, especially where the change
between them predates Bricklink and the internet. Nobody was calling these 3070
and 3070a in 1973 or in 1983 or in 1993. The 'modern' part had been in
existence for decades before bricklink was started and so it would have made
sense to call the modern part 3070 and the vintage one 3070a or 3070old. Most
people looking for a 3070 would want the modern part, not the vintage one. It
makes sense to use the LEGO part number for the most common version or current
version.
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| Author: | Dino | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 09:05 | | Subject: | Re: Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2 | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.
The tile's where not on the list for merging?
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They haven't been merged there are still separate entries for normal (with
groove) and without groove.
They have been renamed to remove the "with groove" from the modern part
(well, 40 years old, but non-vintage part), and also renumbered from 3069b to
3069 and so on, so that the BL number correctly references the number that has
been used for about four decades and is not influenced by a part that hasn't
been produced for almost half a century.
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3070a should actually be 3070 and 3070 should be 3070a. The same with 3069/3069a.
3070a has been around since 1965, 3070 only since 1972. 3 letters would also
be saved.
But what can you ask of the catalogue administrators in the meantime...
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 08:50 | | Subject: | Re: Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2 | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| | | The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.
The tile's where not on the list for merging?
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They haven't been merged there are still separate entries for normal (with
groove) and without groove.
They have been renamed to remove the "with groove" from the modern part
(well, 40 years old, but non-vintage part), and also renumbered from 3069b to
3069 and so on, so that the BL number correctly references the number that has
been used for about four decades and is not influenced by a part that hasn't
been produced for almost half a century.
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| Author: | Familybuild | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 08:34 | | Subject: | Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2 | | Viewed: | 119 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi folks.
Yesterday i received an order of a regular customer.
He ordered parts from the 1x1 square tile , and 1x2 tile.
If i packed the order blindly i would have sent him the with groove variant.
The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.
The tile's where not on the list for merging?
Or maby on the "original" list but scrapped from merging i believe.
This is causing a major headache.
But because i know this customer almost exclusive buys old parts.
I messaged him about this problem and indeed he needed the without groove variant.
Please clearify this.
Also i would like to know why remarks are not consolidated?
Is this because bricklink will sent me a guy/girl that will relocate any "lost"
pieces in ghost drawers?
As a strategist i tend to see a long term goal to relocate people from second
hand market towards the PAB wall. A fee from a bricklink sale is way less then
the full cut they get other wise. People can only take so much "pain"
to look for older parts and are not willing to invest an increasing amount of
time to complete something. Also the complete silence from TLG regarding the
upcomming and current turbulences from this merge are quite worrying to me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Best wishes
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 13:56 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | ANOTHER ISSUE / PROBLEM I just noticed in my inventory (both B, A, C!!) : personal
remarks for new items disappeared (between the 24th of February and.. yesterday.)
So, NO, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I DID WRONG ; PROOF ; These personal remarks are
STILL WRITTEN IN BRICKSTORE (in the bsx files I still have on my computer) !!
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You mean Inventory stockrooms? How do you use your stockrooms? Are there the
same items in normal inventory? Do they have the Remarks? Do you have a donwloaded
(xml) file showing those exact lots having the Remarks, like a day before? Did
you upload something? What are the merge options especially about Remarks on
BrickLink?
It can be a complex problem/reason, you really have to get all information to
understand what happened. I don't believe BrickLink simply "decided"
to remove Remarks.
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| Author: | minifig_75 | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 04:41 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, jennnifer writes:
| | In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
It's SO UNBELIEVABLE, I didn't get any mail from the BL team saying there
was a major issue since the variant merge...
Please, has anyone noticed this issue?
are there any other bugs??
Thanks!
Soon
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There hasn't been a major issue or there would be a mutiny here on the Forum.
I know it's frustrating to deal with errors in your inventory, but consider
the bigger picture. There are 4,800 Dark Brown 3062 for sale on the site, but
the only problem was with your shop? The number and name were updated on Feb
1. No items were merged.
Take a breath and check your info again. I do hope you find the issue!
~Jen
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LOL
Hello!
as you can see, I do have other things to do than working on/for Bricklink/Lego,
so I can't waste my time answering everyone..
But thanks for the very useful tips as to taking deep breaths LOL!
ANOTHER ISSUE / PROBLEM I just noticed in my inventory (both B, A, C!!) : personal
remarks for new items disappeared (between the 24th of February and.. yesterday.)
So, NO, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I DID WRONG ; PROOF ; These personal remarks are
STILL WRITTEN IN BRICKSTORE (in the bsx files I still have on my computer) !!
This is a message to help other sellers, who can't waste their time searching
uselessly for items...
I wish you a very nice day.
regards
Soon.
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2024 22:18 | | Subject: | Re: A blessing or a curse? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | Was looking through the list of gear not yet inventoried, and saw a catagory
titled "puzzle".
The thought immediately entered my mind, "Should I inventory it?"
Hmm this will be easy.
Only three parts!
Ooowwwee...
1000 Parts!!!
Would it be right to inventory a puzzle?
Pro, when you are missing a peice just buy it.
Con, think of the work!!
Should I try to do it?
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No.
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😭😭😭
Was looking forward to the extended period of pain and suffering. 
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2024 22:16 | | Subject: | Re: A blessing or a curse? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | Was looking through the list of gear not yet inventoried, and saw a catagory
titled "puzzle".
The thought immediately entered my mind, "Should I inventory it?"
Hmm this will be easy.
Only three parts!
Ooowwwee...
1000 Parts!!!
Would it be right to inventory a puzzle?
Pro, when you are missing a peice just buy it.
Con, think of the work!!
Should I try to do it?
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No.
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2024 21:38 | | Subject: | A blessing or a curse? | | Viewed: | 131 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
| Was looking through the list of gear not yet inventoried, and saw a catagory
titled "puzzle".
The thought immediately entered my mind, "Should I inventory it?"
Hmm this will be easy.
Only three parts!
Ooowwwee...
1000 Parts!!!
Would it be right to inventory a puzzle?
Pro, when you are missing a peice just buy it.
Con, think of the work!!
Should I try to do it?
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| Author: | matthi | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2024 19:59 | | Subject: | Re: fake part added, asking to delete | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, tonnic writes:
| | In Inventories, matthi writes:
| | In Inventories, peregrinator writes:
| | In Inventories, matthi writes:
| | The blue Emmet part id 15443 is fake.
As some know area 2018 6-7 types of headgears and hairs popped up in 5 similar
colors , all with same partnr 95222 inside. With the lego logo and copyright.
I never checked then the partnr, as it had a logo, but the color blue was a bit
off color, also more friction then other hairs.
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You're saying you have a part with the Lego logo on it that is nevertheless
fake?
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I had it, but as die hard collector I've put it out of my hands. But yes
sadly. We live in a corrupt world.
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I have no interest in these things at all but if it has the Lego logo why would
it be a fake?
Prototypes are prototypes for a reason, they can be (slightly) different of shape,
color, consistency etc.
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No these are called qparts, non production parts. Prototypes nearly never having
a partnumber. I've seen only +- 30 prototypes and only like 2 had a partnumber.
These are added on the very final stage.
But you missed a part on my first message. There 4 different types of headgear
and 2 hairs that ALL having the same partnumber 95222. Which is impossible as
every part have a different ID. All 6 these parts came in blue, dark blue, brown
and lb gray. Slightly different off color and they having issues pulling them
of a head. Genuine lego qparts don't have this issue. You also don't
find this many same colors on different modern parts. Only red or lb gray as
they test the new mould in these colors. These popped up 5 years ago. Not much
info to be found. I'm sure TLG is aware of this.
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| Author: | tonnic | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2024 13:45 | | Subject: | Re: fake part added, asking to delete | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, matthi writes:
| | In Inventories, peregrinator writes:
| | In Inventories, matthi writes:
| | The blue Emmet part id 15443 is fake.
As some know area 2018 6-7 types of headgears and hairs popped up in 5 similar
colors , all with same partnr 95222 inside. With the lego logo and copyright.
I never checked then the partnr, as it had a logo, but the color blue was a bit
off color, also more friction then other hairs.
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You're saying you have a part with the Lego logo on it that is nevertheless
fake?
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I had it, but as die hard collector I've put it out of my hands. But yes
sadly. We live in a corrupt world.
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I have no interest in these things at all but if it has the Lego logo why would
it be a fake?
Prototypes are prototypes for a reason, they can be (slightly) different of shape,
color, consistency etc.
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| Author: | matthi | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: fake part added, asking to delete | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, peregrinator writes:
| | In Inventories, matthi writes:
| | The blue Emmet part id 15443 is fake.
As some know area 2018 6-7 types of headgears and hairs popped up in 5 similar
colors , all with same partnr 95222 inside. With the lego logo and copyright.
I never checked then the partnr, as it had a logo, but the color blue was a bit
off color, also more friction then other hairs.
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You're saying you have a part with the Lego logo on it that is nevertheless
fake?
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I had it, but as die hard collector I've put it out of my hands. But yes
sadly. We live in a corrupt world.
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: fake part added, asking to delete | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, peregrinator writes:
| | In Inventories, matthi writes:
| | The blue Emmet part id 15443 is fake.
As some know area 2018 6-7 types of headgears and hairs popped up in 5 similar
colors , all with same partnr 95222 inside. With the lego logo and copyright.
I never checked then the partnr, as it had a logo, but the color blue was a bit
off color, also more friction then other hairs.
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You're saying you have a part with the Lego logo on it that is nevertheless
fake?
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Wow, isn’t that like counterfeit money? That could be illegal to own!
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 18:48 | | Subject: | Re: fake part added, asking to delete | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, matthi writes:
| | The blue Emmet part id 15443 is fake.
As some know area 2018 6-7 types of headgears and hairs popped up in 5 similar
colors , all with same partnr 95222 inside. With the lego logo and copyright.
I never checked then the partnr, as it had a logo, but the color blue was a bit
off color, also more friction then other hairs.
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You're saying you have a part with the Lego logo on it that is nevertheless
fake?
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| Author: | matthi | | Posted: | Mar 6, 2024 18:43 | | Subject: | fake part added, asking to delete | | Viewed: | 170 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi,
few years ago I've added few hundreds of qpart (prototype) colors to the
database. sadly I've had a fake counterpart in my collection.
The blue Emmet part id 15443 is fake.
As some know area 2018 6-7 types of headgears and hairs popped up in 5 similar
colors , all with same partnr 95222 inside. With the lego logo and copyright.
I never checked then the partnr, as it had a logo, but the color blue was a bit
off color, also more friction then other hairs.
So I like to request to delete this counterpart from the data list and send my
apologies. 30€ wasted :o
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| Author: | MecaOne | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2024 00:55 | | Subject: | 7317: 30585a vs 30585b | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
| Hello, this is my first time posting to the inventories forum. I recently purchased
a used, incomplete copy of 7317 online (not Bricklink). This set is known for
having a revision where 4 of the instances of part 30585a were replaced with
part 30585b, with the longer connection point for the pneumatic tubes. The revision
also replaces a 2x4 brick with 2 2x2 inverted slopes.
The copy I purchased reflected this revision-- however, all 13 of
the tube joiners were the longer 30585b variant. As this "parts lot"
additionally included a complete 7314 the seller wasn't aware of, with the
rubber bands still in their original bag, as well as the instructions and box
for 7317, I'm inclined to believe this is a genuine variant from an extremely
casual, not very knowledgeable fan and clearly not someone who went to Bricklink
just to buy 9 more of the 30585b variant to swap in to the set for some reason.
I was wondering if anyone else had noticed the same with their copy, though I
understand given this was a used copy it may not meet Bricklink's requirements
to be cataloged as a third version of the set.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 29, 2024 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| | | This treatment is consistent with any modern such items where set inventories
from LEGO do exist, and those parts are included (typically, all as one "single"
piece) regardless of if they are used or not. Personally, I would consider
a set incomplete without those pieces, much like I would consider a set incomplete
without spare ammo; it's not a matter of what is used in the builds, it's
a matter of what is part of the set.
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Tat is fine for a new set. But for a used set, you only need the parts necessary
to build the set. No extras or even regular parts not used in the build(s) have
to be present to be used,complete.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 15:19 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
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Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.
On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
Now my question is: Why?
Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
and are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.
I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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This treatment is consistent with any modern such items where set inventories
from LEGO do exist, and those parts are included (typically, all as one "single"
piece) regardless of if they are used or not. Personally, I would consider
a set incomplete without those pieces, much like I would consider a set incomplete
without spare ammo; it's not a matter of what is used in the builds, it's
a matter of what is part of the set.
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| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 10:39 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
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I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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BrickLink inventories are currently intended to show the contents of a New set.
Used sets are at the mercy of both the buyer and seller understanding the terms
outlined here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
Obviously, a New and Used set can have distinct differences in the inventory.
Unfortunately, BL doesn't have the infrastructure to show inventories for
each set condition.
~Jen
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 09:53 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, zorbanj writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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This is exactly what I note for any used set. Most sets have extra items listed
in the inventory.
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Yes, this problem happens anywhere that multiple parts come in a pack or sprue
and that item needs to be damaged to remove a part for a minifigure. It happens
with the vintage plumes on sprues and also modern bags that contain Mandalorian
rangefinders and similar items.
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| Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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This is exactly what I note for any used set. Most sets have extra items listed
in the inventory.
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| Author: | EDOM | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 06:28 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories, EDOM writes:
| | | | It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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How would a buyer know that these parts do not belong to a complete used
set?
If I was a buyer, I would check the received parts of a used set that I bought
on BrickLink against the Regular Items list of that set at BrickLink. And then
the trouble begins...
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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I see your point. Though this is exactly what made me post about it in the first
place:
Why list them as Regular Items if they are not necesary for the build? Why not
listing them as Extra Items. Me as a seller should not "invent" a new
category "Parts Not Needed".
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 05:43 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
| | | | It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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How would a buyer know that these parts do not belong to a complete used
set?
If I was a buyer, I would check the received parts of a used set that I bought
on BrickLink against the Regular Items list of that set at BrickLink. And then
the trouble begins...
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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| Author: | EDOM | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 05:23 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| | | It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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How would a buyer know that these parts do not belong to a complete used
set?
If I was a buyer, I would check the received parts of a used set that I bought
on BrickLink against the Regular Items list of that set at BrickLink. And then
the trouble begins...
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 04:29 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
| |
Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.
On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
Now my question is: Why?
Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
and are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.
I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
|
It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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| Author: | EDOM | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 04:15 | | Subject: | Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.
On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
Now my question is: Why?
Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
and are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.
I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 12:20 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | "... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and
use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem."
Seriously?
Do you really say that this is what's required to maintain a correct inventory
on BL these days?
That's the equivalent of checking every aisle in a grocery store after closing
time.
Every day.
Again.
All day's.
....
If this is true, the database and the way it handles orders and other changes
is even more gone astray than I could imagine....
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Hello Starbrick and THANKS for your very useful reply!
I was as astonished when I read that a seller should spend his time checking
inventories EVERYDAY...! (honestly, I can't..! lool!)
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Absolutely not: I said DOWNLOAD everyday.
Leave the Tab opened, it's ONE click per day.
Or say week?
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?
If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?
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Do you have proofs the seller didn’t do that?
Do you have proofs the next possibility, BL, did that?
What Sylvain/1001bricks said earlier is exactly that:
— when someone blames BL, they don’t have proofs,
— those who have backups and traces always find it’s their fault / can never
pin it on BL.
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Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?
To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied.
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No: there probably are reasons for those lots, including you making a typo or
an error at one moment. But of course, nobody can't remember having made
this kind of mistake (otherwise you'd have corrected it).
| | So, you can very easily imagine I am not the kind of people to waste his time
posting if it's useless. AND NO, I didn't do this..
I noticed it randomly while working on my inventory.
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Chances are 99.99999% either normal BrickLink behaviour (instant check out, OCR,
OIR...) or your errors.
Take some time to set up adequate procedures to verify, if not, it simply didn't
happen.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 08:05 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | […]
Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?
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All the explanations are in my previous posts but maybe you didn’t have time
to read them thoroughly, so here’s an executive summary:
— That part only had its name and ID changed, there was no merge.
— Name and/or ID changes happen every week, they never created problems with
stores’ inventories. Certainly not changing colours AND prices.
— You’re the only one having a problem with this part¹.
— Memory isn’t a sufficient proof².
¹ In your first post, you asked if someone else had errors: no one has. The
only people who went your way are StarBrick and Randyf. In two very different
manners:
— StarBrick blamed a merge that didn’t happen. Nothing happened with their inventory.
— Randyf moaned the lack of changelogs on BL. Nothing happened with their inventory.
² See below.
| | To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied. […]
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I didn’t say you lied, I said you haven’t enough reasons to blame BL.
Regarding this kind of problems, the only fault BL has is that there’s no changelogs
and you need to keep them yourself if you want traces.
But then, if your first and only reaction is to blame BL, BL-generated changelogs
won’t be proof to you. So, as 1001bricks said, external proofs are a necessity.
And that’s all Sylvain and I are saying: ²you need proofs. If inventory changes
happen and hamper your business, you take the time to make changelogs by downloading
your inventory regularly and noting the changes you make. Then, you’ll be able
to back your memory with data and you’ll be able to blame BL. Otherwise, as
there’s no changelogs on BL, there’s nothing to work on, there’s nothing to investigate.
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 04:25 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?
If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?
|
Do you have proofs the seller didn’t do that?
Do you have proofs the next possibility, BL, did that?
What Sylvain/1001bricks said earlier is exactly that:
— when someone blames BL, they don’t have proofs,
— those who have backups and traces always find it’s their fault / can never
pin it on BL.
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Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?
To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied.
I have already specified once or twice on other messages I DON'T HAVE TIME
TO SPEND writing useless posts.. unfortunately, I have many things to do at home,
so I try to save time , and I can't waste my time posting ..
So, you can very easily imagine I am not the kind of people to waste his time
posting if it's useless. AND NO, I didn't do this..
I noticed it randomly while working on my inventory.
I am pretty sure you, too, don't have time to waste posting messages like
this
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hmm I wouldn't be so sure about that, in fact if you see any kind of absence
of his posts for any given number of days I'd be phoning the emergency services
to check he's okay!
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?overTP=Y&q=&qS=Y&qM=Y&msgID=&uName=SYLVAINls&ID=&status=&v=c&max=50
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| Author: | minifig_75 | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 03:46 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
|
... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem.
So until then, it's probably not a BrickLink problem.
|
The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.
| | Or you have some versions associated with an impossible color (like old
part with a new color), hence the color change.
That's one of the versions problems; many lots for sale are just either lies,
mistakes or typos 
|
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Randyf, I totally agree with you!
Thanks for the useful post
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| Author: | minifig_75 | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 03:44 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | I know MOST errors people report are their own fault due to changes they make.
(made some myself over the years for sure  )
I know only a VERY FEW errors people report are not their own fault and DO happen....
I know that downloading an inventory CAN be helpful to find errors made by people.
Because of the merge in operation (and that will take some months I understand!)
we are forced to increase the monitoring of the inventory to CHECK nothing strange
DOES happen to the parts in store.
That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.
And because the merging will be a process that's happening on a daily basis,
sellers are 'forced' to do these downloads and checks on a daily basis?
We are not paid to do these checks, every day. I think we pay the fees in order
NOT to be forced to do these checks on a daily basis.....
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Thanks again!!
wow, for once, there's someone who seems to fully understand the issues at
stake!
thanks a lot again, I appreciate it
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| Author: | minifig_75 | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 03:42 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | "... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and
use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem."
Seriously?
Do you really say that this is what's required to maintain a correct inventory
on BL these days?
That's the equivalent of checking every aisle in a grocery store after closing
time.
Every day.
Again.
All day's.
....
If this is true, the database and the way it handles orders and other changes
is even more gone astray than I could imagine....
|
Hello Starbrick and THANKS for your very useful reply!
I was as astonished when I read that a seller should spend his time checking
inventories EVERYDAY...! (honestly, I can't..! lool!)
I wish you a very nice day
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| Author: | minifig_75 | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 03:39 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?
If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?
|
Do you have proofs the seller didn’t do that?
Do you have proofs the next possibility, BL, did that?
What Sylvain/1001bricks said earlier is exactly that:
— when someone blames BL, they don’t have proofs,
— those who have backups and traces always find it’s their fault / can never
pin it on BL.
|
Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?
To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied.
I have already specified once or twice on other messages I DON'T HAVE TIME
TO SPEND writing useless posts.. unfortunately, I have many things to do at home,
so I try to save time , and I can't waste my time posting ..
So, you can very easily imagine I am not the kind of people to waste his time
posting if it's useless. AND NO, I didn't do this..
I noticed it randomly while working on my inventory.
I am pretty sure you, too, don't have time to waste posting messages like
this, so may be you should try to think before posting, next time, don't
you think so?
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2024 00:25 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| | | Same way sellers tell me "Keeping the old e-mails? Oh no, I delete them of
course"
|
Just for you I’ve started keeping purchase emails (tho not selling ones)
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| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 15:40 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.
|
Read about Science and Magic?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1456568
"I'm sure there's a problem, but I've no proof of anything"
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It's goblins! CAUTION: Do not feed after midnight!
👺☠
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
It's SO UNBELIEVABLE, I didn't get any mail from the BL team saying there
was a major issue since the variant merge...
Please, has anyone noticed this issue?
are there any other bugs??
Thanks!
Soon
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There hasn't been a major issue or there would be a mutiny here on the Forum.
I know it's frustrating to deal with errors in your inventory, but consider
the bigger picture. There are 4,800 Dark Brown 3062 for sale on the site, but
the only problem was with your shop? The number and name were updated on Feb
1. No items were merged.
Take a breath and check your info again. I do hope you find the issue!
~Jen
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc.
|
How could BrickLink verify BrickLink inventory?
I mean, apart normal database rules and tools (atomicity, transactions, backups
with checksums...)
And how could you be sure that BL verification tool is exact, if you already
suspect BL has an Inventory management problem?
|
And how can you be sure that the third-party verification tool is exact if it
is based on the exact same data that is stored on BrickLink everyday? Your bias
is showing.
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Because you've got 2 different data that should show the same state at a
given moment.
Like "This lot exists on BL today", but I can check on my files I never
had it in stock, I never uploaded it, and it's not a renamed or merged lot,
neither an order or item cancellation.
OK, forget it, I give up.
Just say it's a BrickLink problem - which is possible and FAR easier.
http://v4ei.com/comics/strips/zero-controversy.jpg
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 13:50 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc.
|
How could BrickLink verify BrickLink inventory?
I mean, apart normal database rules and tools (atomicity, transactions, backups
with checksums...)
And how could you be sure that BL verification tool is exact, if you already
suspect BL has an Inventory management problem?
|
And how can you be sure that the third-party verification tool is exact if it
is based on the exact same data that is stored on BrickLink everyday? Your bias
is showing.
| | | | instead of needing third-party
tools. Simply stated, third party tools should not be a requirement for proper
inventory management and proper checks and balances in the BrickLink software.
|
If your bank seem to make an error, you don't ask your bank an auto checkup.
|
Sure, I do. I just did it the other day.
| | FIRST you take a freaking pen, paper, calculator and you check by yourself, on
some duration so you've have enough data to be sure.
|
You think I keep all my financial records by pen and paper? What is this, the
1980s?
| | Yes, external tools, no other proper way.
And it requires some work.
Same way sellers tell me "Keeping the old e-mails? Oh no, I delete them of
course"
|
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc.
|
How could BrickLink verify BrickLink inventory?
I mean, apart normal database rules and tools (atomicity, transactions, backups
with checksums...)
And how could you be sure that BL verification tool is exact, if you already
suspect BL has an Inventory management problem?
| | instead of needing third-party
tools. Simply stated, third party tools should not be a requirement for proper
inventory management and proper checks and balances in the BrickLink software.
|
If your bank seem to make an error, you don't ask your bank an auto checkup.
FIRST you take a freaking pen, paper, calculator and you check by yourself, on
some duration so you've have enough data to be sure.
Yes, external tools, no other proper way.
And it requires some work.
Same way sellers tell me "Keeping the old e-mails? Oh no, I delete them of
course"
|
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 13:25 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.
|
The fact you rely on your memory to affirm BrickLink made an error is definitely
an human bias.
|
I said nothing about what people think or do.
Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc., instead of needing third-party
tools. Simply stated, third party tools should not be a requirement for proper
inventory management and proper checks and balances in the BrickLink software.
I did hear there were some seller tools coming, though...
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 13:08 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.
|
Read about Science and Magic?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1456568
"I'm sure there's a problem, but I've no proof of anything"
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 13:03 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
| | […]
And because the merging will be a process that's happening on a daily basis, […]
|
Once again, this part was not merged:
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 13:02 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.
|
The fact you rely on your memory to affirm BrickLink made an error is definitely
an human bias.
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 12:59 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| |
The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.
|
Thank you
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| I know MOST errors people report are their own fault due to changes they make.
(made some myself over the years for sure )
I know only a VERY FEW errors people report are not their own fault and DO happen....
I know that downloading an inventory CAN be helpful to find errors made by people.
Because of the merge in operation (and that will take some months I understand!)
we are forced to increase the monitoring of the inventory to CHECK nothing strange
DOES happen to the parts in store.
That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.
And because the merging will be a process that's happening on a daily basis,
sellers are 'forced' to do these downloads and checks on a daily basis?
We are not paid to do these checks, every day. I think we pay the fees in order
NOT to be forced to do these checks on a daily basis.....
|
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 12:54 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
| | Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
|
... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem.
So until then, it's probably not a BrickLink problem.
|
The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.
| | Or you have some versions associated with an impossible color (like old
part with a new color), hence the color change.
That's one of the versions problems; many lots for sale are just either lies,
mistakes or typos
|
|
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: PROBLEM WITH DARK BROWN 3062 ITEM | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | That’s not what Sylvain said.
He said that if you don’t have proofs it’s BL, then your complaints are moot.
|
Absolutely, thank you.
| | It’s like realizing one aisle of your grocery store is totally empty and blaming
it on magical gremlins coming to eat things at night.
Come to think of it, it’s how the theory of spontaneous generation came about.
Look it out and how it was debunked. Spoiler: it’s about proofs and science,
not magic.
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