| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | calsbricks  | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2022 10:09 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76088-1 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 24 Part 34816 Light Bluish Gray Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Handle on End - Bar Flush with Edge (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
2 Sets parted out today both with alternate part
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2022 02:56 | | Subject: | Re: Just a thoought | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | On the other hand eliminating a large part of the market based purely on payment
method does not make good business sense. You can collect the sales tax in a
more conventional method - like bill us for it., or is that too difficult .
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That's not possible.
As soon as a company (here: the marketplace) will declare a 1000€ VAT paid, they
DO owe it, and they will pay it.
Meaning that if the seller makes an indirect sale (like using IBAN or such) and
BL cannot collect this VAT amount (for any reason), they'll simply loose
this amount.
This isn't acceptable - especially if you multiply this risk by 30000+ shops.
On the other side; on site payments are 5 years old at least.
There's no reason not to set up those payment methods, especially if you
wish to be able to sell to this market (USA, etc.)
In short, the ball is in your camp; they won't change this IMHO.
Sylvain
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unfortunately you have misread rhe thread it is not to do with vat only usa and
sales tax.
the ball, as you call it, is not in our court. it is firmly in Bricklink's.
they agreed in the beginning to investigate other payment options and have let
that fade away. as a business we would never give away control of our funds
nd that is what the terms of ppm state
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Actually the ball is in your court. BrickLink has set up the rules in how you
can sell to customers in the US so it is now up to you to decide if you want
to abide by there rules or not. I know you have brought up many many arguments
against implementing onsite payments thru many many threads here but I think
you just need either bite the bullet and implement onsite payments or if not
then I think it is time to let it go and accept that BrickLink is not going to
change their policies concerning onsite payments in anyway that will be pleasing
to you. You just need to let it go and move on.
Jim.
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Well , if everyone did that the world would never change., This will be the last
post on this matter from us. Sometimes people make uninformed decisions which
impact many without looking at all the consequences. Whilst the compliance issue
had to be solved Bricklink took the 'easy option' and didn't get
it right. Our setup will remain the same so those states that do not have a sales
tax policy can still order from us if they choose and those that do cannot. Still
doesn't seem right now does it ?
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2022 21:38 | | Subject: | Re: Just a thoought | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | ppm terms and conditions. there is no way we will hand over control of our funds
to bricklink or anyone else for that matter
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Just to be clear - BL does NOT gain control over your Paypal account.
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they gain control over all/any bricklink transactions and have the right to determine
when and if you receive those funds according to the ppm terms and conditions.
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Well, Paypal has absolute control over ALL your PP transactions, as well as your
balance. They can freeze your account for whatever reason, yet you still offer
that. Why? Because you trust they will do the correct thing. Why not extend that
same trust to BL, an entity where you demonstrably have more influence over?
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you are, of course, correct. we have been with them for 14 years without a problem
and believe it will stay that way. trust them - possibly but that has been built
up over our time with them and we never, repeat never leave funds with them.
as for Bricklink we have built up a degree of trust since tlg have more or less
taken over. Tanya has helped with that as well as her team. long may it continue,
but tlg have to back her, and ensure she has the resources she needs to get the
job (s) done.
| | | | one of the longest and most complicated threads this forum has seen in my 14
year they had to publish a statement in the end to mitigate the concrns stores
had. that statement was that they would not get involved with that side of the
terms, and until this compliance issue came along they kept to their word.
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I don't see a compliance issue. I see a requirement forced upon BL to comply
with how market places can and cannot operate. This led to an implementation
that tries to make sure the tax monies are indeed collected. How would you have
tackled this problem?
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I have called it compliance because that is what they call it. my approach would
have been somewhat different however with more time spent up front in design.
sales exemptions for example should have been included as well as margin schemes
and of course I would have looked far more deeply into payment methods, but that
is just me and how we approach issues like this.
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| | | | But then again, the more shops refuse to do onsite payments, the better it can
be for my bottom line. So now I will have to explain to the CFO why I am typing
this reply which potentially costs our shop some sales.
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I double up as ceo/CFO so my arguments are with myself. the good news is I win
all arguments.
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| | I doubt that.people go where the product is. that is what drives sales not what
payment methods you accept. you know that old marketing expression the right
product at the right place at the right time is what drives business
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People need to buy product. You have it, I have it, and many other shops have
it. You bow out of the US market. That means the odds they place an order in
my store just went up. By a tiny tiny bit, but it went up. If you start selling
to the US again because of this discussion, my odds go down again by a tiny tiny
bit. Simple logic.
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agree with the logic. we would not really make a significant dent on your sales
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Circling back to your initial suggestion - splitting up the US in tax / no-tax
is a non-issue for your shop. By your own words, you hardly received any orders
from the US before, and that was from all states. Why would you want this split-up
if there would not be any orders from that small part of the US? Is it maybe
to raise your odds by a tiny tiny bit? Are you actually in my boat?
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the only thing it might do is make it possible to only have those states to contend
with rather than lots of messages
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| | hope you will be joining us soon
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I will wave in your general direction when the airplane with the CFO and me starts
its descent to Schiphol airport early March. That's about as good as I can
do. 
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I didn't mean that but you should enjoy the Netherlands at that time of year
many of us are hoping you will join us in Feb
stay safe and well
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2022 19:46 | | Subject: | Re: Just a thoought | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, qwertyboy writes:
| | In General, calsbricks writes:
| | ppm terms and conditions. there is no way we will hand over control of our funds
to bricklink or anyone else for that matter
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Just to be clear - BL does NOT gain control over your Paypal account.
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they gain control over all/any bricklink transactions and have the right to determine
when and if you receive those funds according to the ppm terms and conditions.
one of the longest and most complicated threads this forum has seen in my 14
year they had to publish a statement in the end to mitigate the concrns stores
had. that statement was that they would not get involved with that side of the
terms, and until this compliance issue came along they kept to their word.
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When an onsite payment is done, BL gets authorized to be an intermediate for
that specific transaction (nothing else). That way, BL can redirect parts of
that payment when needed. For instance, when taxes are involved for a US sale,
the customer pays the full amount including taxes, and BL siphons off the tax
part, so the seller gets the payment minus the tax part.
I understand that this power can make you hesitant, but if BL wants to screw
you over, they can do that without onsite payments. There has to be a level of
trust when you join a market place as a seller.
Besides, refusing to implement onsite payments will cut you off from the largest
international market. I for one could not explain that if I had to build my business
and maximize profits.
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all of that is true, however less than 9% of our sales over our 11 years has
come from overseas (postage costs are simply too high), we lost the usa when
they first implemented sales taxes and now the eu with vat. sales levels are
still acceptable and we still get the odd order from Canada as well as switzerland
and Australia.
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But then again, the more shops refuse to do onsite payments, the better it can
be for my bottom line. So now I will have to explain to the CFO why I am typing
this reply which potentially costs our shop some sales.
My CAD 0.03.
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I doubt that.people go where the product is. that is what drives sales not what
payment methods you accept. you know that old marketing expression the right
product at the right place at the right time is what drives business
hope you will be joining us soon
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2022 19:32 | | Subject: | Re: Just a thoought | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | ppm terms and conditions. there is no way we will hand over control of our funds
to bricklink or anyone else for that matter
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Good luck with this Bill!
IRS and your Bank, controls your fluxes, and now control how BrickLink manages
taxes to be paid.
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just to be pedantic is (hmrc) have absolutely no control over my funds. they
have the right to charge me taxes on earned income, which they do once a year.
as for the banks, the situation is different, but again they have no control
over my funds
in both situations these organisations are set up with the management of funds
as their main focus. bricklink is not and possibly never will be.
as you are well aware there are often difficulties with them keeping up with
their main focus (that is not meant as a criticism rather a statement of fact).
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There's every day less and less solutions this not to be controlled.
Apart if you're one of the 1% VIPs of the World (shame on you then).
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