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 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 15:21
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8313-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests
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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  Do you prefer to wait until the minifig is approved before filing the removals?

I think it would be best to wait until you've had some time to calm down
so that we can have a more rational discussion on this topic.

You asked for me to be constructive rather than destructive criticism, so I have
started adding missing figures to the catalogue using these published Figure
guidelines: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170

Figure classification can sometimes be difficult. Therefore, this section
further clarifies how BrickLink decides if an item is a figure or not.

Figures: Characters, fantasy creatures, humans, mechanical objects, and statues.
Additional clarifications listed below.
Characters - These typically have a face and a name, but always display sentient
behavior beyond that of a similar animal or object.


Nick Bluetooth and so on all come under character, don't they? Even Shimmel.

There is also this rule from the Adding Catalog Items Help Page:

Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into
figures, vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of
a set and should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the
past for some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other
large assemblies with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.


If the entire set (or half the set) is used to build a figure / character, we
would be going against precedent to add it to the catalog. Adding it as a minifigure
is even a further stretch.

And exactly here is the problem when you and your catalogue team do not speak
with one voice or even have a comparative understanding of what is happening.
The page you refer to:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
was updated on 18 November 2020 by you, but you apparently did not check that
that the catalogue item minifig does not exist any longer. The information relating
to large part assemblies of figures and the thing previously known as a minifig
have been replaced by the new definition of a "figure"

The new definition of figures are on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
which has been in existence and confirmed as being active since 1 June 2020 and
which are the definitions used to add the figure items to the catalogue.

On that definition, there is no such thing as a minifig. There are only figures.
A figure can be any size part assembly, says so right there. There is no specific
limitation as to number of parts. There is no specific limitation as to what
percentage of the set must be made up to the figure. For an item to be a catalogue
item as a figure, the only standard that has to be met is that it must be an
autonomous entity. You and your catalogue team should perhaps get together and
actually fix the cross references and actually speak with one voice as to what
exactly is meant when catalogue items are discussed.

It has been pointed out ad nauseum that we still do not have a definition for
a complete minifigure (whatever that is, see above) either - so perhaps it would
be best to complete the definitions such that users are not confused.

And if these figures (note: figures) are in fact figures by definition, there
should be absolutely no reason not to add them as catalogue items.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Jan 22, 2021 03:27
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 60180-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests (Entry)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 60180  Name: Monster Truck
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60180-1 (Inv) Monster Truck
187 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2018
Sets: Town: City: Race

* Delete 4 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 4 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole

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 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Jan 22, 2021 03:25
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 30571-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 30571  Name: Pelican polybag
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30571-1 (Inv) Pelican polybag
62 Parts, 2019
Sets: Creator: Basic Model: Creature

* Delete 2 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 2 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole

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 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Jan 22, 2021 03:21
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7994-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7994  Name: City Harbor
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7994-1 (Inv) City Harbor
641 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2007
Sets: Town: City: Harbor

* Delete 1 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 1 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole

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 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Jan 22, 2021 03:21
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7632-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7632  Name: Crawler Crane
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7632-1 (Inv) Crawler Crane
473 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: Town: City: Construction

* Delete 1 Part 6628 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball (Undetermined Hole Type)
* Add 1 Part 6628a Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise and Tow Ball with Round Pin Hole

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