| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | bje  | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 05:33 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | Would it be possible to show the names of the address fields?
With international addresses it sometimes is not clear what is the city, what
is the region, what is the streetname, etc.
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Use the UPU tool, then it is easy to see:
https://www.upu.int/en/Postal-Solutions/Programmes-Services/Addressing-Solutions#scroll-nav__5
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And even with national addresses it is not clear. I just had somebody with two
streetnames and numbers. This is probably the address 1 streetname, number and
the optional address 2 streetname, number. But when shipping I can only use one
address. When would I as a seller use the optional address, how would i know
to use it?
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The buyer should tell you, surely?
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And it would also be useful if the address is filled out in 'english'
(i.e. no chinese, russian, israelian characters that are not always available
in shipping label apps)
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For international orders there are countries which require addresses to be written
in national alphabet. It would be better if the information is actually available
in BL as it is required by the buyer's postal system as it is a pain to get
the required information after the fact from buyers.
https://www.upu.int/UPU/media/upu/documents/PostCode/Universal-POSTCODE%C2%AE-DataBase-specific-FAQs.pdf
It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 2, 2020 00:38 | | Subject: | Re: In sales posts disclose all fees | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
| | In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
| | In Suggestions, firestar246 writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | When sales and promotions posts are made on the forum, please have sellers disclose
all of the fees and additional charges as part of the forum post.
It is presumably also an unfair business practice in other economies to not include
important information in a promotion. Negating a discount through fees is sort
of important information.
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I'm not sure I understand... if all fees are disclosed on the store terms
page, why does a quick 5% off post need to have the fees included in it?
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See below
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Are you included shipping charges in that statement?
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@Jean: Good relevant request even though personally I structurally ignore all
those sales posts.
@Firestar:
Because in at least one of the world's countries it is illegal not to explicitly
disclose this essential information in the advertisement itself. https://www.reclamecode.nl/nrc_taxonomy/algemeen/
#8.4 Disclosure of full address and all costs are deemed essential for distant
selling advertisements.
And indeed, if you advertise 5% off on everything, that must include the same
discount on shipping unless specified otherwise. If the discount is on the products
only, the sale post is in fact misleading,
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| | which is illegal as well. That means that the majority of sales posts here on Bricklink are in fact breaking the ToS to comply with the applicable laws.
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No offense, but...
The global stage of commerce is not mandated by the EU nor by any other specific
region in the world!
How can any rational thought expect all of the world's economic laws and
regs concatenated, be adhered to in a single transaction? If such a thing were
actually attempted, it would cripple commerce with conflation and disaccord 
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None of what was said is any way determined to take away rational thinking. If
sale terms specifically wish to exploit a certain loophole, then just say so.
There is nothing in any law which prevents a seller from advertising goods to
the exclusion of another region or a specific person.
My original post was for the site to stop a certain mercenary practice, which
you would think should be good sense anyway. Which is to give the customer all
of the required information upfront as part of the promotion.
Alternatively put, imagine if your local supermarket advertises with a mail shot
that all soap is 20% off terms only in store. Climb in your car, get to the store,
put the items in a cart when there are no specific terms mentioned on the item
shelf, walk to the till and then get hit a 25% surcharge for packaging on soap.
When you say, no this is not what was advertised, the till operator points to
a small sign next to the till which says this. And then refuse to cancel your
purchase and force you to pay before you can leave. And throws a hissy fit. And
bars you from ever coming back.
If this sort of practice makes sense, it would be understandable that one would
balk at the notion of actually giving customers all of the required information
needed to make a binding decision.
Many sellers absolutely cannot stand the thought of cancelling an order if a
buyer asks them to. I should like to think that sellers be allowed to set the
hook once a customer nibbles, provided the lure they hang out is not coated with
poison.
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Who wouldn't want to hand their personal business decisions over to unelected
bureaucrats of other nations  Let's not go down that rabbit hole of which
nation's law/regs are to be adopted and to what extent, not yet anyway!
Laws, regulations and taxes on this side of the pond, are created by those we
elect or have chosen to represent our interest. Hopefully it's the
same for you and others.
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Politics - willingly giving some people permission to tell you what to think
and make you pay for the privilege.
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My point is simple, be more reserved with such terms as "illegal" when applying
it to the actions other members, as some are wont to do here.
It's moot anyway, as the global path that BL/TLG takes and expresses in their
ToS contract, is what we've agreed to. It's the site that is threading
the needle, in other words.
-popsicle
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Yes the ToS says a lot of things many sellers do not care for and actually do
not do or know about. So does PayPal's terms, so does every other commercial
entity. We can expect to self-police and be good at it as adults, but self-policing
(which is what I think you mean here, but I could be wrong) does not really work
- actually I've not known of any organisation which has tried to self-police
and be successful at it. If self policing was in any way successful, then feedback
would have been the most trustworthy aspect of this site.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 1, 2020 02:44 | | Subject: | In sales posts disclose all fees | | Viewed: | 261 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| When sales and promotions posts are made on the forum, please have sellers disclose
all of the fees and additional charges as part of the forum post.
It is presumably also an unfair business practice in other economies to not include
important information in a promotion. Negating a discount through fees is sort
of important information.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2020 00:31 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41413-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Gear flyerfriends02 (Not Applicable) Flyer 2020 Friends Summer Cube Mia
Comments from Submitter:
Already included in sets as inventoried
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2020 00:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41411-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Gear flyerfriends03 (Not Applicable) Flyer 2020 Friends Summer Cube Stephanie
Comments from Submitter:
Already included in sets as inventoried
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