Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | bje  | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 05:33 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | Would it be possible to show the names of the address fields?
With international addresses it sometimes is not clear what is the city, what
is the region, what is the streetname, etc.
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Use the UPU tool, then it is easy to see:
https://www.upu.int/en/Postal-Solutions/Programmes-Services/Addressing-Solutions#scroll-nav__5
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And even with national addresses it is not clear. I just had somebody with two
streetnames and numbers. This is probably the address 1 streetname, number and
the optional address 2 streetname, number. But when shipping I can only use one
address. When would I as a seller use the optional address, how would i know
to use it?
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The buyer should tell you, surely?
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And it would also be useful if the address is filled out in 'english'
(i.e. no chinese, russian, israelian characters that are not always available
in shipping label apps)
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For international orders there are countries which require addresses to be written
in national alphabet. It would be better if the information is actually available
in BL as it is required by the buyer's postal system as it is a pain to get
the required information after the fact from buyers.
https://www.upu.int/UPU/media/upu/documents/PostCode/Universal-POSTCODE%C2%AE-DataBase-specific-FAQs.pdf
It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 2, 2020 00:38 | | Subject: | Re: In sales posts disclose all fees | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
| | In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
| | In Suggestions, firestar246 writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | When sales and promotions posts are made on the forum, please have sellers disclose
all of the fees and additional charges as part of the forum post.
It is presumably also an unfair business practice in other economies to not include
important information in a promotion. Negating a discount through fees is sort
of important information.
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I'm not sure I understand... if all fees are disclosed on the store terms
page, why does a quick 5% off post need to have the fees included in it?
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See below
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Are you included shipping charges in that statement?
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@Jean: Good relevant request even though personally I structurally ignore all
those sales posts.
@Firestar:
Because in at least one of the world's countries it is illegal not to explicitly
disclose this essential information in the advertisement itself. https://www.reclamecode.nl/nrc_taxonomy/algemeen/
#8.4 Disclosure of full address and all costs are deemed essential for distant
selling advertisements.
And indeed, if you advertise 5% off on everything, that must include the same
discount on shipping unless specified otherwise. If the discount is on the products
only, the sale post is in fact misleading,
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| | which is illegal as well. That means that the majority of sales posts here on Bricklink are in fact breaking the ToS to comply with the applicable laws.
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No offense, but...
The global stage of commerce is not mandated by the EU nor by any other specific
region in the world!
How can any rational thought expect all of the world's economic laws and
regs concatenated, be adhered to in a single transaction? If such a thing were
actually attempted, it would cripple commerce with conflation and disaccord 
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None of what was said is any way determined to take away rational thinking. If
sale terms specifically wish to exploit a certain loophole, then just say so.
There is nothing in any law which prevents a seller from advertising goods to
the exclusion of another region or a specific person.
My original post was for the site to stop a certain mercenary practice, which
you would think should be good sense anyway. Which is to give the customer all
of the required information upfront as part of the promotion.
Alternatively put, imagine if your local supermarket advertises with a mail shot
that all soap is 20% off terms only in store. Climb in your car, get to the store,
put the items in a cart when there are no specific terms mentioned on the item
shelf, walk to the till and then get hit a 25% surcharge for packaging on soap.
When you say, no this is not what was advertised, the till operator points to
a small sign next to the till which says this. And then refuse to cancel your
purchase and force you to pay before you can leave. And throws a hissy fit. And
bars you from ever coming back.
If this sort of practice makes sense, it would be understandable that one would
balk at the notion of actually giving customers all of the required information
needed to make a binding decision.
Many sellers absolutely cannot stand the thought of cancelling an order if a
buyer asks them to. I should like to think that sellers be allowed to set the
hook once a customer nibbles, provided the lure they hang out is not coated with
poison.
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Who wouldn't want to hand their personal business decisions over to unelected
bureaucrats of other nations  Let's not go down that rabbit hole of which
nation's law/regs are to be adopted and to what extent, not yet anyway!
Laws, regulations and taxes on this side of the pond, are created by those we
elect or have chosen to represent our interest. Hopefully it's the
same for you and others.
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Politics - willingly giving some people permission to tell you what to think
and make you pay for the privilege.
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My point is simple, be more reserved with such terms as "illegal" when applying
it to the actions other members, as some are wont to do here.
It's moot anyway, as the global path that BL/TLG takes and expresses in their
ToS contract, is what we've agreed to. It's the site that is threading
the needle, in other words.
-popsicle
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Yes the ToS says a lot of things many sellers do not care for and actually do
not do or know about. So does PayPal's terms, so does every other commercial
entity. We can expect to self-police and be good at it as adults, but self-policing
(which is what I think you mean here, but I could be wrong) does not really work
- actually I've not known of any organisation which has tried to self-police
and be successful at it. If self policing was in any way successful, then feedback
would have been the most trustworthy aspect of this site.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 1, 2020 02:44 | | Subject: | In sales posts disclose all fees | | Viewed: | 261 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| When sales and promotions posts are made on the forum, please have sellers disclose
all of the fees and additional charges as part of the forum post.
It is presumably also an unfair business practice in other economies to not include
important information in a promotion. Negating a discount through fees is sort
of important information.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2020 00:31 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41413-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Gear flyerfriends02 (Not Applicable) Flyer 2020 Friends Summer Cube Mia
Comments from Submitter:
Already included in sets as inventoried
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2020 00:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41411-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Gear flyerfriends03 (Not Applicable) Flyer 2020 Friends Summer Cube Stephanie
Comments from Submitter:
Already included in sets as inventoried
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 28, 2020 00:28 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41410-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Gear flyerfriends01 (Not Applicable) Flyer 2020 Friends Summer Cube Andrea
Comments from Submitter:
Already included in sets as inventoried
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 26, 2020 13:07 | | Subject: | Re: Stockroom | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, Lulumika writes:
| | Hi there,
Is there are shortcut to where I can look at the Stockroom? I am confused (after
9 years of doing this) where the stockroom is.
Thanks,
M.
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https://www.bricklink.com/myActivity.asp
Under the heading "selling" you will see your lots for sale. Next to that are
the reserved lots and next to that all lots in stockrooms. Click on that for
details.
Alternatively, if you only sue Stockroom A, go to:
https://www.bricklink.com/inventory.asp
Under "Search My Inventory" Select stockroom A and click on Go
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2020 08:44 | | Subject: | Re: What is an animal what a figure? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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I see it as a minifigure consisting of one part in the figure inventory. That
both the part and the minifigure are the same is immaterial. This is why we need
the definitions and consistency. It should be able to be sold as a part as well
as a complete figure if it is defined as such. Does not change the part count
on the set, does not do anything other than assign a PCC from TLG to the part,
which would not be possible if it was only there as a minifigure.
It is not in principle any different to a baseplate set.
In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
| | this breaks all sorts of rules by being in the catalog twice. Lego considers
it the same thing.
In Catalog, novabrick writes:
| | In Catalog, bje writes:
I see
are both listed. which makes the whole thing a bit weirder. But requires
some assembly so therefore he is listed both as part and brick so he's a
rare exception. Guess I have to look through minifigs if I can't find a specific
animal or part. Since making a double listing for the bat and the character minifig
would probably make things even worse.
Christian
novabrick-team
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2020 05:40 | | Subject: | Re: What is an animal what a figure? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, novabrick writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Character based animals like these are a complete mess. None of them are minifigures
according to the LEGO descriptions.
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Maybe the Catmins could look into sorting this mess then? Maybe another re categorization?
Christian
novabrick-team
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Your catalogue experts had made some progress until the plug got pulled
See: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1192559
and a few other posts
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Even then, it needs to be clearer. For example, this sentence ...
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They were still busy getting those properly done, and had plans for moving items
as well to answer Chritian also. I think these things comes in fits and starts
and the long delays in between and just makes it more of a mess and ads to the
inconsistencies.
Personally, I would prefer the sets with named characters as figures consisting
of parts and an inventory, even if just one part. That way sets with Polly can
have characters and sets without can have parts and Polly can be a figure or
an animal air part or both. Then we can search for either the part or the figure.
But of no use until we know what a complete figure is and in fact what a figure
(minifigure or otherwise) is.
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Animals - Animals, including pets with names, are not figures unless they
are characters or otherwise display exceptional behavior.
What does that mean? What is a character if not an a lifeform that is named?
An animal like Scooby Doo, he is a pet with a name, but surely he is also a character.
What about Santa's Little Help or Snowball II. Are they high enough billing
to be characters?
is named and therefore is a character in the Elves storyline.
If you give an animal a name, do they not become a character in whatever storyline
they appear in.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2020 05:12 | | Subject: | Re: What is an animal what a figure? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, novabrick writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Character based animals like these are a complete mess. None of them are minifigures
according to the LEGO descriptions.
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Maybe the Catmins could look into sorting this mess then? Maybe another re categorization?
Christian
novabrick-team
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Your catalogue experts had made some progress until the plug got pulled
See: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1192559
and a few other posts
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 16, 2020 04:51 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigue Complete Build Inconsistencies? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories, bje writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Your request has been granted.
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What about one without the lid? He doesn't wear the lid as a hat when he
leaves the trash can, does he?
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Presumably you must still follow the headgear rule.
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If rules are there to be broken though, why not have yet another version?
We now have a listing for
the head
the head, body and trash can lid
the head, body, trash can lid and trash can.
So might as well go for a full house and have the head and body. It makes it
harder to list and buy/sell by spreading the listings like this. And there are
other characters that come with things that might be important/unimportant depending
on the buyer/seller. It just shows how much an incomplete minifigure feature
is needed. In this case, the complete figure could be the group of four items,
and anything else is incomplete.
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I fully agree, for what it is worth. I have no problem with BL defining what
a minifigure is, what it must consist of, how it must inventoried or indeed how
it must be listed. But then BL must have clear written rules and they must allow
catmins to actually apply those rules consistently. Only then can you actually
have rules for listing items, not before. Only then can you say I will remove
listings with no recourse or appeal. Only then can you say I do not want a thing
appearing in listings. Making up arbitrary decisions and rules to suit a specific
situation on a specific day does not help anything or anybody.
But it is their catalogue, they are going to do as they please and some buyers
will buy things expecting other things and so on and so forth.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 16, 2020 03:09 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigue Complete Build Inconsistencies? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Your request has been granted.
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What about one without the lid? He doesn't wear the lid as a hat when he
leaves the trash can, does he?
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Presumably you must still follow the headgear rule.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 16, 2020 00:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw0074 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, bje writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4073 Trans-Neon Orange Plate, Round 1 x 1
Comments from Submitter:
Part does not attach see also instructions page 3
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As others have said, it's an integral part of the minifig. I'm not so
sure there is a rule about things having to attach, but in this case, and in
the other case you raised with the jewel, we'll make an exception instead
of changing these inventories.
The skis are another issue. It used to be they were not added consistently, then
we started adding them as a rule, but now we are thinking of removing them. We
need to wait until there is a decision about this before moving forward.
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???
The rule not to have ski's is already in place and has been since 2018. See
the page I quoted when making the requests, it is the reason I quoted the rule
and made the changes. I was not aware that if something is a published rule it
is still something is being thought about or that needs to be decided on.
And just to be clear, and a general point for all who have left comments, I was
not making these requests to prove a point. The issue is that the site is removing
listings for incomplete minifigures from sellers stores. If we cannot know what
the site consistently defines as a minifigure and what consistently needs to
be included in minifigures and how set inventories are done, it makes a mockery
of the listing requirements. If we cannot trust the site to enforce catalogue
rules evenly and even-handedly across the board, the catalogue cannot be trusted
and then listings cannot be trusted.
While I am sure that reasonable sellers would not exclude these parts from minifigures
they sell, there is in fact nothing that precludes a seller from doing so. If
the rules are bad rules, change them. If the rules are good rules, apply them
consistently. That way management improves the catalogue and hence listings and
hence the site overall. That would be infinitely better than the current unwritten
substance over form rule which cannot be appealed.
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2020 03:19 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig mm006 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 30153 Trans-Neon Green Rock 1 x 1 Jewel 24 Facet
Comments from Submitter:
Part does not attach, see also instructions page 1 step 3
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2020 02:47 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw0412 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4073 Trans-Orange Plate, Round 1 x 1
Comments from Submitter:
Part does not attach, see also instructions booklet 1 page 4
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2020 02:39 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw0074 | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4073 Trans-Neon Orange Plate, Round 1 x 1
Comments from Submitter:
Part does not attach see also instructions page 3
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| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Nov 13, 2020 11:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 30260-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| | In Inventories Requests, bje writes: |
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