Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Hygrotus  | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2019 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: 41167-1 Arendelle Castle | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | I don't see any inventory for this set. Anyone know anything?
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2019 16:31 | | Subject: | 41167-1 Arendelle Castle | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| | I don't see any inventory for this set. Anyone know anything? |
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2019 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: 75976 Overwatch Wrecking Ball | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, corbindallas writes:
| | This set is not inventoried.
Now what ?
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BrickLink inventories are provided by volunteers. So the next step for you is
inventory it or wait until someone else does. 
Cheers,
Randy
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Isn't this a quickest asked question about inventory of new set which just
added. This set was just added to the catalog yesterday So I presume from
the question that inventory should be already approved simultaneously with set
addition to the catalog
(Winner of this competition will be when will ask about set's inventory just
after it will be added to the catalog )
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2019 14:31 | | Subject: | Re: 70422 Hidden Side Shrimp Shack Attack | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, corbindallas writes:
| | This set is not inventoried.
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It is currently in the process of being inventoried.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2019 14:30 | | Subject: | Re: 75976 Overwatch Wrecking Ball | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, corbindallas writes:
| | This set is not inventoried.
Now what ?
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BrickLink inventories are provided by volunteers. So the next step for you is
inventory it or wait until someone else does.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Brick_Basher | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2019 14:28 | | Subject: | 70422 Hidden Side Shrimp Shack Attack | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| | This set is not inventoried. |
| Author: | Brick_Basher | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2019 14:28 | | Subject: | 75976 Overwatch Wrecking Ball | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| This set is not inventoried.
Now what ?
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| Author: | Ossdorp | | Posted: | Oct 1, 2019 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: 6021 Wrong inventory | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, Ossdorp writes:
| | Hi,
There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.
Ciao!
Tim
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All of the plumes are in this set and follow the inventory guidelines laid out
here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi all,
Thanks for the reply.
I didn't know that there was such a thing with those plumes.
I still is strange that those extra plumes aren't categorised under Extra
parts, because you don't need them for building the set.
Greetings,
Tim
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| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 21:00 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | This inventory has been pending, unchanged, for at least a week. A review of
the pending inventory shows some printed parts still missing (but in the catalog).
There is no image for the "Central Perk" glass panel and the 1x4 "Service" tile
has already been added to the catalog. The only parts I can see that are still
missing (and still not awaiting approval) are the black 1x4x3 menu tile and the
sticker sheet.
Additionally the inventory still contains most of the minifigures parts which
obviously need to be removed. The Pearl gold cone listed is also the wrong variety.
It almost feels like the member doing the inventory for this set doesn't
have the set in hand: this should be a requirement, especially for an exclusive
set like this.
If an admin will release this inventory to me I will double-check it, remove
the extraneous parts, add the missing parts to the catalog, and have it ready
for approval today. I parted out five of these more than a week ago and have
been waiting far too long for the inventory to be completed!
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The admin team discussed this situation behind the scenes and came to the decision
to release this inventory to you for completion. After some further research,
it was decided that this was the best course of action for this inventory. Good
luck!
Cheers,
Randy
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Thank you for taking the time to review the situation. I'm working on it
right now. It will be ready for review no later than tomorrow evening.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 20:42 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | This inventory has been pending, unchanged, for at least a week. A review of
the pending inventory shows some printed parts still missing (but in the catalog).
There is no image for the "Central Perk" glass panel and the 1x4 "Service" tile
has already been added to the catalog. The only parts I can see that are still
missing (and still not awaiting approval) are the black 1x4x3 menu tile and the
sticker sheet.
Additionally the inventory still contains most of the minifigures parts which
obviously need to be removed. The Pearl gold cone listed is also the wrong variety.
It almost feels like the member doing the inventory for this set doesn't
have the set in hand: this should be a requirement, especially for an exclusive
set like this.
If an admin will release this inventory to me I will double-check it, remove
the extraneous parts, add the missing parts to the catalog, and have it ready
for approval today. I parted out five of these more than a week ago and have
been waiting far too long for the inventory to be completed!
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The admin team discussed this situation behind the scenes and came to the decision
to release this inventory to you for completion. After some further research,
it was decided that this was the best course of action for this inventory. Good
luck!
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 17:54 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | | | There is also no set-in-stone amount of time for completion of an inventory.
Therefore, this new contributor will be given a chance to correct things. As
I said before, if they are unwilling to complete the inventory or fail to do
it in an appropriate amount of time after having been notified, then the inventory
will be discarded.
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I hope "appropriate" means "short". Also, discarding it seems like a waste,
if the current user cannot finish it, just leave it as is for someone else--if
the new person wants to start from scratch it is easy enough to so.
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The biggest bottleneck when doing inventories is adding new items to the catalog.
If there are items not in the catalog yet, you could speed up the approval process
by adding them.
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Done. Took 10 minutes, tops. With my phone. Not sure why there has been such
a delay.
I didn't see anything else missing but if there is let me know, and I'll
take care of it. I wish I could help clean up the rest of the inventory...
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 15:02 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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ID CardAdmin_Russell
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Location:  USA, California |
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| In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | | | There is also no set-in-stone amount of time for completion of an inventory.
Therefore, this new contributor will be given a chance to correct things. As
I said before, if they are unwilling to complete the inventory or fail to do
it in an appropriate amount of time after having been notified, then the inventory
will be discarded.
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I hope "appropriate" means "short". Also, discarding it seems like a waste,
if the current user cannot finish it, just leave it as is for someone else--if
the new person wants to start from scratch it is easy enough to so.
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The biggest bottleneck when doing inventories is adding new items to the catalog.
If there are items not in the catalog yet, you could speed up the approval process
by adding them.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 13:53 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | Agreed, but perhaps new people should not start with brand new, high-demand sets.
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We do not dictate what people should or should not inventory. If someone wants
to contribute to BrickLink, we are not going to discourage them.
| | I wonder how this new user is going to recall his first inventory--it seems
like it may have been a little overwhelming.
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After looking through the credits log, this user is not a new inventory submitter
after all, so I believe that the inventory will eventually be completed to everyone's
satisfaction.
| | I'm usually pretty patient with this stuff, but if I had known this inventory
was going to languish for so long I would have just reserved it myself--despite
my reservations about working for BL for free in its current state.
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The inventory was first submitted on September 13 and last updated 2 days ago.
In my time as an Inventories Admin (almost a year), the amount of time this set
has been worked on is right on par with the amount of time the majority of new
sets are in the process of being inventoried. There is nothing at all that stands
out to me in this case as far as time is concerned.
| | I hope "appropriate" means "short".
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"Appropriate" means two weeks without any additions or changes to the inventory
once notified.
I believe your impatience is getting the best of you. You are free to use the
other tools that BrickLink provides to part out the set manually if you cannot
wait.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 13:43 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | It is in BrickLink's best interest (as well as the job of the volunteer admins)
to let new people have a chance to gain knowledge in how to contribute to BrickLink.
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Agreed, but perhaps new people should not start with brand new, high-demand sets.
I wonder how this new user is going to recall his first inventory--it seems
like it may have been a little overwhelming.
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It is not the first inventory from this user.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=S&itemInvUserID=570886
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| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | Do we really need to give this person more time after there has been little-to-no
progress for a week? Surely I'm not the only seller waiting to part out
this set. I could have had it ready by now but unfortunately the rest of my
week looks busy so hopefully someone else can take over it.
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It is in BrickLink's best interest (as well as the job of the volunteer admins)
to let new people have a chance to gain knowledge in how to contribute to BrickLink.
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Agreed, but perhaps new people should not start with brand new, high-demand sets.
I wonder how this new user is going to recall his first inventory--it seems
like it may have been a little overwhelming. The first few inventories I did
were for small sets and figures that had been sitting for a while, so I didn't
feel any pressure while I was learning the process. After I was comfortable,
I had no problem turning around some larger sets (with new parts) in just a couple
of days.
I'm usually pretty patient with this stuff, but if I had known this inventory
was going to languish for so long I would have just reserved it myself--despite
my reservations about working for BL for free in its current state.
| | There is also no set-in-stone amount of time for completion of an inventory.
Therefore, this new contributor will be given a chance to correct things. As
I said before, if they are unwilling to complete the inventory or fail to do
it in an appropriate amount of time after having been notified, then the inventory
will be discarded.
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I hope "appropriate" means "short". Also, discarding it seems like a waste,
if the current user cannot finish it, just leave it as is for someone else--if
the new person wants to start from scratch it is easy enough to so.
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| | I thought inventories for new, in-production sets were supposed to be completed
using a new, sealed set (not instructions like is indicated for this set). Maybe
my recall is fuzzy but I thought I read that here.
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They are. However, many new contributors do not understand the process and do
not realize that using the instruction manual along with a sealed set constitutes
selecting "Sealed Set Contents" as the source. This is not the first time or
last time that someone has done or will do this.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | Do we really need to give this person more time after there has been little-to-no
progress for a week? Surely I'm not the only seller waiting to part out
this set. I could have had it ready by now but unfortunately the rest of my
week looks busy so hopefully someone else can take over it.
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It is in BrickLink's best interest (as well as the job of the volunteer admins)
to let new people have a chance to gain knowledge in how to contribute to BrickLink.
There is also no set-in-stone amount of time for completion of an inventory.
Therefore, this new contributor will be given a chance to correct things. As
I said before, if they are unwilling to complete the inventory or fail to do
it in an appropriate amount of time after having been notified, then the inventory
will be discarded.
| | I thought inventories for new, in-production sets were supposed to be completed
using a new, sealed set (not instructions like is indicated for this set). Maybe
my recall is fuzzy but I thought I read that here.
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They are. However, many new contributors do not understand the process and do
not realize that using the instruction manual along with a sealed set constitutes
selecting "Sealed Set Contents" as the source. This is not the first time or
last time that someone has done or will do this.
Cheers,
Randy
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Maybe Bricklink should have a bounty system where anyone who wants something
inventoried can donate a dollar or two that will be paid to the person who does
the set. When there are dozens of people waiting to part it out, it wouldn't
be long before someone would want to snatch that money.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 12:10 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for 76122? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | I have no problem doing it but i won't do it for free.
Second- I never saw any document on how to create new numbers for minifig and
parts.
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The minifigs are already in the catalog. I have a little too much on my plate
in other areas of life at the moment. I might inventory it a few weeks from
now if it isn't done. But you don't have to inventory the minifigs to
inventory the set. I often inventory minifigs in sets that have already been
inventoried.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for 76122? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | I have no problem doing it but i won't do it for free.
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Unfortunately, you will need to wait for someone else to do it then. Inventories
are contributed by volunteers.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | Do we really need to give this person more time after there has been little-to-no
progress for a week? Surely I'm not the only seller waiting to part out
this set. I could have had it ready by now but unfortunately the rest of my
week looks busy so hopefully someone else can take over it.
|
It is in BrickLink's best interest (as well as the job of the volunteer admins)
to let new people have a chance to gain knowledge in how to contribute to BrickLink.
There is also no set-in-stone amount of time for completion of an inventory.
Therefore, this new contributor will be given a chance to correct things. As
I said before, if they are unwilling to complete the inventory or fail to do
it in an appropriate amount of time after having been notified, then the inventory
will be discarded.
| | I thought inventories for new, in-production sets were supposed to be completed
using a new, sealed set (not instructions like is indicated for this set). Maybe
my recall is fuzzy but I thought I read that here.
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They are. However, many new contributors do not understand the process and do
not realize that using the instruction manual along with a sealed set constitutes
selecting "Sealed Set Contents" as the source. This is not the first time or
last time that someone has done or will do this.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | StoreToys4Boys | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for 76122? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| I have no problem doing it but i won't do it for free.
Second- I never saw any document on how to create new numbers for minifig and
parts.
Let me known.
Thank you
In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | Anybody is working on that set?
Thank you
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Nope. Nobody is working on that set.
Cheers,
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Look like i will have to wait before part out.
Thank you
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Why wait for someone else? 
You could try your hand at doing the inventory yourself since you have the set
on hand and allow everyone to benefit from your benevolence.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 21:53 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | This inventory has been pending, unchanged, for at least a week. A review of
the pending inventory shows some printed parts still missing (but in the catalog).
There is no image for the "Central Perk" glass panel and the 1x4 "Service" tile
has already been added to the catalog. The only parts I can see that are still
missing (and still not awaiting approval) are the black 1x4x3 menu tile and the
sticker sheet.
Additionally the inventory still contains most of the minifigures parts which
obviously need to be removed. The Pearl gold cone listed is also the wrong variety.
It almost feels like the member doing the inventory for this set doesn't
have the set in hand: this should be a requirement, especially for an exclusive
set like this.
If an admin will release this inventory to me I will double-check it, remove
the extraneous parts, add the missing parts to the catalog, and have it ready
for approval today. I parted out five of these more than a week ago and have
been waiting far too long for the inventory to be completed!
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We will contact the member doing the inventory and see what is going on. If we
do not hear back from them or they are unwilling to finish the inventory in a
certain amount of time after being contacted by us, the inventory will be released
for you or someone else to do it.
Cheers,
Randy
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OK. Thanks for the reply.
Do we really need to give this person more time after there has been little-to-no
progress for a week? Surely I'm not the only seller waiting to part out
this set. I could have had it ready by now but unfortunately the rest of my
week looks busy so hopefully someone else can take over it.
I thought inventories for new, in-production sets were supposed to be completed
using a new, sealed set (not instructions like is indicated for this set). Maybe
my recall is fuzzy but I thought I read that here.
Also, after reviewing the inventory again, in addition to the problems I already
noted there are some problems with the extras section too: there is no way that
this set includes any pieces in violet or light orange. I fear this inventory
will need some extensive review.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 20:36 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for 76122? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | Anybody is working on that set?
Thank you
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Nope. Nobody is working on that set.
Cheers,
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Look like i will have to wait before part out.
Thank you
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Why wait for someone else?
You could try your hand at doing the inventory yourself since you have the set
on hand and allow everyone to benefit from your benevolence.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 20:33 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | This inventory has been pending, unchanged, for at least a week. A review of
the pending inventory shows some printed parts still missing (but in the catalog).
There is no image for the "Central Perk" glass panel and the 1x4 "Service" tile
has already been added to the catalog. The only parts I can see that are still
missing (and still not awaiting approval) are the black 1x4x3 menu tile and the
sticker sheet.
Additionally the inventory still contains most of the minifigures parts which
obviously need to be removed. The Pearl gold cone listed is also the wrong variety.
It almost feels like the member doing the inventory for this set doesn't
have the set in hand: this should be a requirement, especially for an exclusive
set like this.
If an admin will release this inventory to me I will double-check it, remove
the extraneous parts, add the missing parts to the catalog, and have it ready
for approval today. I parted out five of these more than a week ago and have
been waiting far too long for the inventory to be completed!
|
We will contact the member doing the inventory and see what is going on. If we
do not hear back from them or they are unwilling to finish the inventory in a
certain amount of time after being contacted by us, the inventory will be released
for you or someone else to do it.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | StoreToys4Boys | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 20:08 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for 76122? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | Anybody is working on that set?
Thank you
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Nope. Nobody is working on that set.
Cheers,
|
Look like i will have to wait before part out.
Thank you
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| Author: | michaelhunt | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 14:42 | | Subject: | Re: Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, chetzler writes:
| | This inventory has been pending, unchanged, for at least a week. A review of
the pending inventory shows some printed parts still missing (but in the catalog).
There is no image for the "Central Perk" glass panel and the 1x4 "Service" tile
has already been added to the catalog. The only parts I can see that are still
missing (and still not awaiting approval) are the black 1x4x3 menu tile and the
sticker sheet.
Additionally the inventory still contains most of the minifigures parts which
obviously need to be removed. The Pearl gold cone listed is also the wrong variety.
It almost feels like the member doing the inventory for this set doesn't
have the set in hand: this should be a requirement, especially for an exclusive
set like this.
If an admin will release this inventory to me I will double-check it, remove
the extraneous parts, add the missing parts to the catalog, and have it ready
for approval today. I parted out five of these more than a week ago and have
been waiting far too long for the inventory to be completed!
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I would also like to know the status, thank you.
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| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 11:25 | | Subject: | Status of Friends Central Perk 21319 | | Viewed: | 158 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| This inventory has been pending, unchanged, for at least a week. A review of
the pending inventory shows some printed parts still missing (but in the catalog).
There is no image for the "Central Perk" glass panel and the 1x4 "Service" tile
has already been added to the catalog. The only parts I can see that are still
missing (and still not awaiting approval) are the black 1x4x3 menu tile and the
sticker sheet.
Additionally the inventory still contains most of the minifigures parts which
obviously need to be removed. The Pearl gold cone listed is also the wrong variety.
It almost feels like the member doing the inventory for this set doesn't
have the set in hand: this should be a requirement, especially for an exclusive
set like this.
If an admin will release this inventory to me I will double-check it, remove
the extraneous parts, add the missing parts to the catalog, and have it ready
for approval today. I parted out five of these more than a week ago and have
been waiting far too long for the inventory to be completed!
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Sep 28, 2019 22:43 | | Subject: | Re: Negative Quantity / Stockroom | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, BrickFlo writes:
| | Good morning and Greetings from Germany
Tonight I got that order as shown. Every ordered part is physically in my shop
and I can do the order without problems.
But of course, I'm kind of scared about the negative quantity left?!?
With kind regards,
Florian
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Nobody to comment on this?
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| Author: | BrickFlo | | Posted: | Sep 28, 2019 02:52 | | Subject: | Negative Quantity / Stockroom | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Good morning and Greetings from Germany
Tonight I got that order as shown. Every ordered part is physically in my shop
and I can do the order without problems.
But of course, I'm kind of scared about the negative quantity left?!?
With kind regards,
Florian
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2019 01:15 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory for 76122? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StoreToys4Boys writes:
| | Anybody is working on that set?
Thank you
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Nope. Nobody is working on that set.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | StoreToys4Boys | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2019 22:28 | | Subject: | Inventory for 76122? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Anybody is working on that set?
Thank you
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| Author: | Andrsv | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 17:00 | | Subject: | Re: complete minifigures | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Andrsv writes:
| | In Inventories, brickablocks writes:
| | The best I can do using the bricklink site itself is an advanced search (https://www.bricklink.com/searchAdvanced.asp)
with these initial parameters.
Item Type - Minifigs
Min Quantity - however much you are trying to get
Sort by - lowest price
Keyword = -custom -statuette -microfigure -duplo -bionicle -"minifig stand"
Once you get to your results page, you can use the negative search indicator
to filter items. Unfortunately though - that one only appears to allow use of
one more negative search term, as far as I can tell...
I can't figure out how to exclude those stupid custom minifigure stands from
the search results, unfortunately.
In Inventories, brickmom2011 writes:
| | How can I search for complete mini-figures by price. I do not care what type
of mini figure it is, I want to purchase in bulk for a good price.
|
|
I'll sell cheap used minifigures if you want to buy hundreds of them
|
You can find cheap minifigures here https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=Minifigure&brand=1000&st=1&tab=M#T=M
|
|
| Author: | Andrsv | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: complete minifigures | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, brickablocks writes:
| | The best I can do using the bricklink site itself is an advanced search (https://www.bricklink.com/searchAdvanced.asp)
with these initial parameters.
Item Type - Minifigs
Min Quantity - however much you are trying to get
Sort by - lowest price
Keyword = -custom -statuette -microfigure -duplo -bionicle -"minifig stand"
Once you get to your results page, you can use the negative search indicator
to filter items. Unfortunately though - that one only appears to allow use of
one more negative search term, as far as I can tell...
I can't figure out how to exclude those stupid custom minifigure stands from
the search results, unfortunately.
In Inventories, brickmom2011 writes:
| | How can I search for complete mini-figures by price. I do not care what type
of mini figure it is, I want to purchase in bulk for a good price.
|
|
I'll sell cheap used minifigures if you want to buy hundreds of them
|
|
| Author: | brickablocks | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: complete minifigures | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| The best I can do using the bricklink site itself is an advanced search (https://www.bricklink.com/searchAdvanced.asp)
with these initial parameters.
Item Type - Minifigs
Min Quantity - however much you are trying to get
Sort by - lowest price
Keyword = -custom -statuette -microfigure -duplo -bionicle -"minifig stand"
Once you get to your results page, you can use the negative search indicator
to filter items. Unfortunately though - that one only appears to allow use of
one more negative search term, as far as I can tell...
I can't figure out how to exclude those stupid custom minifigure stands from
the search results, unfortunately.
In Inventories, brickmom2011 writes:
| | How can I search for complete mini-figures by price. I do not care what type
of mini figure it is, I want to purchase in bulk for a good price.
|
|
|
| Author: | bb300511 | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 14:11 | | Subject: | complete minifigures | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| How can I search for complete mini-figures by price. I do not care what type
of mini figure it is, I want to purchase in bulk for a good price.
|
| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 03:51 | | Subject: | Re: 6547 - Stickered Parts and Assembly | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, WilliamH writes:
| | I've added the missing stickered parts (4461pb03 and 4461pb04) and assembly
(BA13pb03) to the catalog for this set. I've no interest in learning the
complexities of adding these as alternates/counterparts, so if someone else wants
to update the inventory, please feel free to do so.
|
Done
|
|
| Author: | WilliamH | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 03:45 | | Subject: | 6547 - Stickered Parts and Assembly | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| I've added the missing stickered parts (4461pb03 and 4461pb04) and assembly
(BA13pb03) to the catalog for this set. I've no interest in learning the
complexities of adding these as alternates/counterparts, so if someone else wants
to update the inventory, please feel free to do so.
|
|
| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 3, 2019 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: download as XML actually saves as a TXT file | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Jallington59 writes:
| | In Inventories, Teup writes:
| | In Inventories, Jallington59 writes:
| | Hi,
Trying to export my inventory into an xML file.
The download option offers XML as a format, but when the file saves, it is a
.txt file.
I cannot use TXT files with other sites so I need to know if there is a way to
truly pull my inventory as XML.
thanks
|
XML is not a file type, it just refers to a way to structure data in plain text.
It only means that item data is placed in between tags with pointy brackets.
A file in XML formatting can have any kind of extension: txt, xls, html, ...
If you need another extension, you can just rename the file. If that doesn't
work, then probably you need something else than an XML formatted file. What
do you need it for?
|
Thank you.
I am trying to copy my inventory over to Brickowl. They ask for XML files.
I get "Lot ID" errors from every format I've used
|
Ah yes. I've written my own converter for this. But you can use Brickstock:
Brickstock can read Bricklink xml formatted files, and save them as bsx. That
bsx file should be fit for upload on BrickOwl.
|
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| Author: | Jallington59 | | Posted: | Sep 3, 2019 13:25 | | Subject: | Re: download as XML actually saves as a TXT file | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Teup writes:
| | In Inventories, Jallington59 writes:
| | Hi,
Trying to export my inventory into an xML file.
The download option offers XML as a format, but when the file saves, it is a
.txt file.
I cannot use TXT files with other sites so I need to know if there is a way to
truly pull my inventory as XML.
thanks
|
XML is not a file type, it just refers to a way to structure data in plain text.
It only means that item data is placed in between tags with pointy brackets.
A file in XML formatting can have any kind of extension: txt, xls, html, ...
If you need another extension, you can just rename the file. If that doesn't
work, then probably you need something else than an XML formatted file. What
do you need it for?
|
Thank you.
I am trying to copy my inventory over to Brickowl. They ask for XML files.
I get "Lot ID" errors from every format I've used
|
|
| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2019 18:27 | | Subject: | Re: download as XML actually saves as a TXT file | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Jallington59 writes:
| | Hi,
Trying to export my inventory into an xML file.
The download option offers XML as a format, but when the file saves, it is a
.txt file.
I cannot use TXT files with other sites so I need to know if there is a way to
truly pull my inventory as XML.
thanks
|
XML is not a file type, it just refers to a way to structure data in plain text.
It only means that item data is placed in between tags with pointy brackets.
A file in XML formatting can have any kind of extension: txt, xls, html, ...
If you need another extension, you can just rename the file. If that doesn't
work, then probably you need something else than an XML formatted file. What
do you need it for?
|
|
| Author: | Jallington59 | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2019 17:34 | | Subject: | download as XML actually saves as a TXT file | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hi,
Trying to export my inventory into an xML file.
The download option offers XML as a format, but when the file saves, it is a
.txt file.
I cannot use TXT files with other sites so I need to know if there is a way to
truly pull my inventory as XML.
thanks
|
|
| Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Aug 27, 2019 03:22 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, tEoS writes:
| | I like the idea of adding and inventorying these boxes (especially the ones w/o
a peek hole), though I wish it could have been done years ago. Still, as they
say, better late than never.
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
I've glad that they not have catalog entries of their own.
The only way it will work in actually set inventories, is if there is a way to
part down parts in sets easily. If so, I think it would be good.
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Aug 25, 2019 12:29 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | […]
| | It worked fine until point 7
Then I just got error messages.
|
=VLOOKUP(E3;"$Page2.$A$3.$B$217";2)that's my formula
|
Ah, okay, my fault: no quotes around the region.
And to get the correct values for the region, try this:
— start editing the cell by deleting the region,
— do not validate, just let the text cursor where the region will be,
— go to the page with the colour and select the area (the two columns with colours
IDs and names), the formula should now have the correct region,
— validate.
If that cell now has the correct value, then you can edit the formula again to
add the $ so you can use it in the other cells.
|
|
| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Aug 25, 2019 12:28 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | […]
| | Colours are only numbers though. So you’ll need to import the colour table (same
form) to cross the tables.
|
Okay, this is obviously beyond my skill set. Anyone like to show me, preferably
via screen shots, exactly how to do this. Please.
|
For the first part:
1. Download the set inventory as Tab-delimited (should give you a “S-NNN-1.txt”
file).
2. Open Excel, open the file from Excel (or drag and drop it), it should give
you an import dialog where you can tweek things (delimiters, how numbers are
read, locale…) but you shouldn’t have to change anything because the tab-delimited
file is pretty simple/default.
You should now have the inventory in a table.
If you want to get colour names instead (or rather, besides) their code, well,
my Excel is a bit rusty (I use LibreOffice now) but this should do it:
1. Download the colour table as Tab-delimited (should give you a “colors.txt”
file).
2. Open it from Excel like above.
Note that it should be possible to cross/match from an external file but I’m
not sure how, so we’ll do it in one file, the one we have the inventory in.
3. Select and copy the first two columns (others are not needed).
4. Go back to the inventory file.
5. Create a new page (it’s cleaner) and paste the colours names and IDs.
6. Add a column in the inventory for the colour names.
7. Use the VLOOKUP function for the first item: “=VLOOKUP( E3 ; region ; 2 )”.
“E3” should be the cell with the colour code for the first item (line 3). “region”
is the whole region with the colours in the second page (e.g. “$Page2.A3.B217”).
“2” is because we want the value in the 2nd column, the colour name.
8. Add a $ before every value in the region (e.g. if it was “$Page2.A3.B217”,
make it “$Page2.$A$3.$B$217”). That will block the values (they won’t change
when the formula is moved or copy-pasted or dragged.
9. Apply the formula all the way down, for all the items by dragging the bottom-right
handle.
Now all the items have the colour code and names.
|
| | Hope that’s clear and helping
|
It worked fine until point 7
Then I just got error messages.
|
=VLOOKUP(E3;"$Page2.$A$3.$B$217";2)that's my formula
|
Not sure if this works different in other language versions of Excel, but based
on how I work with formulas in my Dutch version of Excel I think the correct
version of that formula should be =VLOOKUP(E3;Page2!$A$3:$B$217;2;false)
The false at the end of the formula makes sure that it will only look for the
exact value in the list of colors. Otherwise it will use the nearest value if
your cell E3 has a value that's not in the list of colors.
|
|
| Author: | BarbaraH | | Posted: | Aug 25, 2019 10:37 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | […]
| | Colours are only numbers though. So you’ll need to import the colour table (same
form) to cross the tables.
|
Okay, this is obviously beyond my skill set. Anyone like to show me, preferably
via screen shots, exactly how to do this. Please.
|
For the first part:
1. Download the set inventory as Tab-delimited (should give you a “S-NNN-1.txt”
file).
2. Open Excel, open the file from Excel (or drag and drop it), it should give
you an import dialog where you can tweek things (delimiters, how numbers are
read, locale…) but you shouldn’t have to change anything because the tab-delimited
file is pretty simple/default.
You should now have the inventory in a table.
If you want to get colour names instead (or rather, besides) their code, well,
my Excel is a bit rusty (I use LibreOffice now) but this should do it:
1. Download the colour table as Tab-delimited (should give you a “colors.txt”
file).
2. Open it from Excel like above.
Note that it should be possible to cross/match from an external file but I’m
not sure how, so we’ll do it in one file, the one we have the inventory in.
3. Select and copy the first two columns (others are not needed).
4. Go back to the inventory file.
5. Create a new page (it’s cleaner) and paste the colours names and IDs.
6. Add a column in the inventory for the colour names.
7. Use the VLOOKUP function for the first item: “=VLOOKUP( E3 ; region ; 2 )”.
“E3” should be the cell with the colour code for the first item (line 3). “region”
is the whole region with the colours in the second page (e.g. “$Page2.A3.B217”).
“2” is because we want the value in the 2nd column, the colour name.
8. Add a $ before every value in the region (e.g. if it was “$Page2.A3.B217”,
make it “$Page2.$A$3.$B$217”). That will block the values (they won’t change
when the formula is moved or copy-pasted or dragged.
9. Apply the formula all the way down, for all the items by dragging the bottom-right
handle.
Now all the items have the colour code and names.
|
| | Hope that’s clear and helping
|
It worked fine until point 7
Then I just got error messages.
|
=VLOOKUP(E3;"$Page2.$A$3.$B$217";2)that's my formula
|
|
| Author: | BarbaraH | | Posted: | Aug 25, 2019 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | […]
| | Colours are only numbers though. So you’ll need to import the colour table (same
form) to cross the tables.
|
Okay, this is obviously beyond my skill set. Anyone like to show me, preferably
via screen shots, exactly how to do this. Please.
|
For the first part:
1. Download the set inventory as Tab-delimited (should give you a “S-NNN-1.txt”
file).
2. Open Excel, open the file from Excel (or drag and drop it), it should give
you an import dialog where you can tweek things (delimiters, how numbers are
read, locale…) but you shouldn’t have to change anything because the tab-delimited
file is pretty simple/default.
You should now have the inventory in a table.
If you want to get colour names instead (or rather, besides) their code, well,
my Excel is a bit rusty (I use LibreOffice now) but this should do it:
1. Download the colour table as Tab-delimited (should give you a “colors.txt”
file).
2. Open it from Excel like above.
Note that it should be possible to cross/match from an external file but I’m
not sure how, so we’ll do it in one file, the one we have the inventory in.
3. Select and copy the first two columns (others are not needed).
4. Go back to the inventory file.
5. Create a new page (it’s cleaner) and paste the colours names and IDs.
6. Add a column in the inventory for the colour names.
7. Use the VLOOKUP function for the first item: “=VLOOKUP( E3 ; region ; 2 )”.
“E3” should be the cell with the colour code for the first item (line 3). “region”
is the whole region with the colours in the second page (e.g. “$Page2.A3.B217”).
“2” is because we want the value in the 2nd column, the colour name.
8. Add a $ before every value in the region (e.g. if it was “$Page2.A3.B217”,
make it “$Page2.$A$3.$B$217”). That will block the values (they won’t change
when the formula is moved or copy-pasted or dragged.
9. Apply the formula all the way down, for all the items by dragging the bottom-right
handle.
Now all the items have the colour code and names.
|
| | Hope that’s clear and helping
|
It worked fine until point 7
Then I just got error messages.
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | […]
| | Colours are only numbers though. So you’ll need to import the colour table (same
form) to cross the tables.
|
Okay, this is obviously beyond my skill set. Anyone like to show me, preferably
via screen shots, exactly how to do this. Please.
|
For the first part:
1. Download the set inventory as Tab-delimited (should give you a “S-NNN-1.txt”
file).
2. Open Excel, open the file from Excel (or drag and drop it), it should give
you an import dialog where you can tweek things (delimiters, how numbers are
read, locale…) but you shouldn’t have to change anything because the tab-delimited
file is pretty simple/default.
You should now have the inventory in a table.
If you want to get colour names instead (or rather, besides) their code, well,
my Excel is a bit rusty (I use LibreOffice now) but this should do it:
1. Download the colour table as Tab-delimited (should give you a “colors.txt”
file).
2. Open it from Excel like above.
Note that it should be possible to cross/match from an external file but I’m
not sure how, so we’ll do it in one file, the one we have the inventory in.
3. Select and copy the first two columns (others are not needed).
4. Go back to the inventory file.
5. Create a new page (it’s cleaner) and paste the colours names and IDs.
6. Add a column in the inventory for the colour names.
7. Use the VLOOKUP function for the first item: “=VLOOKUP( E3 ; region ; 2 )”.
“E3” should be the cell with the colour code for the first item (line 3). “region”
is the whole region with the colours in the second page (e.g. “$Page2.A3.B217”).
“2” is because we want the value in the 2nd column, the colour name.
8. Add a $ before every value in the region (e.g. if it was “$Page2.A3.B217”,
make it “$Page2.$A$3.$B$217”). That will block the values (they won’t change
when the formula is moved or copy-pasted or dragged.
9. Apply the formula all the way down, for all the items by dragging the bottom-right
handle.
Now all the items have the colour code and names.
Hope that’s clear and helping
|
|
| Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file?
|
Use BrickStock and save the file. Open the BrickStock in excel.
You will have to open as read only but can save as anything else.
|
|
| Author: | BarbaraH | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 10:30 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file?
|
The two file options in the download tab are not Excel
|
You can open the tab-delimited text file in Excel and save it as an Excel file.
|
Actually, you could also import the XML version but the tab-delimited file contains
the items current names
Colours are only numbers though. So you’ll need to import the colour table (same
form) to cross the tables.
|
Okay, this is obviously beyond my skill set. Anyone like to show me, preferably
via screen shots, exactly how to do this. Please.
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 10:18 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file?
|
The two file options in the download tab are not Excel
|
You can open the tab-delimited text file in Excel and save it as an Excel file.
|
Actually, you could also import the XML version but the tab-delimited file contains
the items current names
Colours are only numbers though. So you’ll need to import the colour table (same
form) to cross the tables.
|
|
| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 09:23 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file?
|
The two file options in the download tab are not Excel
|
You can open the tab-delimited text file in Excel and save it as an Excel file.
|
| Author: | BarbaraH | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 09:20 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file?
|
The two file options in the download tab are not Excel
|
| Author: | BarbaraH | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 05:50 | | Subject: | Excel | | Viewed: | 154 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file? |
|
| Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Aug 23, 2019 17:34 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| | |
Folks, if anything is going to improve in the catalog, we need to give some freedom
and grace to our admins so they can try things out. I can understand if people
get frustrated when they find something has changed and it no longer works for
them, but please understand that we have the long-term interests of the site
in mind, and also that we can adjust and/or reverse any decision that is made.
Regarding these sleeves, we have needed to add them to the catalog for quite
a while now, because of the need to search by the number printed on the sleeve.
Strictly speaking, this is not a PCC, but it's still a number people can
use for reference. Specifically, we want to give the ability to sellers to sell
the parts in the sleeves without having to open the sleeves. The only way they
can do this is to have a reference database showing the contents of every sleeve.
Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
|
+1
I think this is a long time coming and a darn good add to the catalog. I hate
having to open the cardboard packages to know what is inside them.
Thank you for adding them and the hard work you guys are doing in regards to
things like this! Whenever changes are made there will always be a good number
of people who will hate the changes which I can respect to a degree for there
has been changes that took me a while to get used to but as mentioned, we need
to give some latitude to the people in charge of making these changes to see
what works and what does not and give constructive criticism and not just criticism.
Jim
|
|
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 23:53 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | The journey is the destination?
|
|
I finished one of yours, Majesty.
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 13:51 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | The journey is the destination?
|
|
|
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
|
Yes. You can go ahead.
|
Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?
|
I don't think we will know when it is done or really care if it ever is.
We just want to get as much information into the database as possible and have
a resource for all those people who want to know what comes in those little cardboard
sleeves without having to open them to sell.
Cheers,
Randy
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The journey is the destination?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 12:41 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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Yes. You can go ahead.
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Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?
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I don't think we will know when it is done or really care if it ever is.
We just want to get as much information into the database as possible and have
a resource for all those people who want to know what comes in those little cardboard
sleeves without having to open them to sell.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 10:20 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | If I was king around here
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Hmmmm
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 10:17 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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Yes. You can go ahead.
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Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 08:25 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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Yes. You can go ahead.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 08:21 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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Added for you
added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.
As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.
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So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 07:35 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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Added for you
added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.
As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.
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So if I understand this correctly we should use the inventory change request
for things that come in 'cardboard sleeves' 'little white boxes'
to include the printed number?
We have always keyed that straight into Google and found what was in the box
????
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 07:18 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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Added for you
added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.
As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 06:45 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 05:01 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | | | It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
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It is most definitely *not* a stupid question. If I was king around here, there
would be a place we could test this stuff without affecting the live data and
have sellers/buyers give feedback. Unfortunately, we don't have that. Maybe
we will someday...
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I said stupid question mainly because if you were needing to work on the live
site (hence affecting any users that have any interaction with the sets / parts
you are changing) then the answer is very likely to be that there isn't such
a test server.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 18:48 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
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It is most definitely *not* a stupid question. If I was king around here, there
would be a place we could test this stuff without affecting the live data and
have sellers/buyers give feedback. Unfortunately, we don't have that. Maybe
we will someday...
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 16:56 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
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It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
It seems crazy that any ideas that get tried out (that do affect regular users)
need to be made on the client facing server.
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(Snide: BL doesn’t even have _one_ working website. )
There was a second website where users (mainly sellers) were encouraged to go
when BL2 was to come (the new skin, the new main page, the new WLs, etc.). It
had an older version of the database, with no impact on the actual database.
Some people went there, made bug reports and remarks, and then the update was
put in production as it was and the people who didn’t go to the second site were
angry because they hadn’t known and those who went were angry too because they
weren’t heard.
And then everybody was adverse to any change. Go figure.
Anyway, the “sleeves” changes are on the catalogue, the database, not the website,
its skin and features. So that would mean the catmins would have changed a copy
of the database, then told us “eh, go see what we did,” and then we would have
had a discussion, and maybe a few back and forth, and in the end, they would
have to do all the final changes again on the real database because they don’t
have a direct access to the database and can’t write scripts or do partial saves
and partial updates and the actual database would have changed in the meanwhile
too.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 16:13 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | A user found out while the idea was being tested in the first two days. An announcement
was planned for today or tomorrow once the initial work was done. So, a total
of maybe four days from initial work to completion of testing work to communicating
with the user base for feedback. A pretty short timetable that was interrupted
by a user that was "snooping" around.
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| | For this, it would have all been explained in our announcement message that did
not get a chance to materialize due to someone interrupting the process.
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| | Yeah, we heard that. That is why things have already been rolled back due to
the feedback. I took almost three hours of my personal time last night doing
this by myself ASAP. See, us volunteer admins can get stuff done quickly, unlike
the corporate employees. We also take the feedback we get seriously and try to
work with everyone as best we can as we try to add new things to the catalog.
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| | The volunteer admins have no choice but to move forward with ideas that are needed
for the catalog. We have the time and energy to try and make positive changes
for the user base. The corporate side does not. Eventually, the corporate side
will catch up (from things I have started to hear), but us volunteers have no
say and no way to do what is necessary to the code. We work in the systems we
have.
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It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
It seems crazy that any ideas that get tried out (that do affect regular users)
need to be made on the client facing server.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 14:24 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | Best reply ever! Thank you so much for this! |
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, BasKrie writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy,
The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
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Actually, yes it was. We were trying it out for an entire total of two days.
| | It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
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We were implementing changes so that the user base would have something to comment
on when the idea was communicated to the user base in a couple of days. That
got sidetracked because someone noticed they were being added to the catalog
after one day. As I said, not a big deal, because we got the feedback we were
looking for earlier than planned and have made significant changes already. Also,
it had yet to cause any problems for anyone. The people that were testing the
idea came up with great constructive feedback on what was happening behind the
scenes, and that feedback was very welcomed (especially from member yorbrick).
| | A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
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A user found out while the idea was being tested in the first two days. An announcement
was planned for today or tomorrow once the initial work was done. So, a total
of maybe four days from initial work to completion of testing work to communicating
with the user base for feedback. A pretty short timetable that was interrupted
by a user that was "snooping" around.
| | Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
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Did I mention the communication part was coming within a day or two? And am I
or Marek or Russell not communicating now?  Do not confuse the BrickLink corporate
lack of communication with the volunteer admins who communicate very regularly.
Just have a search through the forums and you will see that the volunteer admins
are very present and remain accountable to the users here.
| | Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
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For this, it would have all been explained in our announcement message that did
not get a chance to materialize due to someone interrupting the process.
| | And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
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Yeah, we heard that. That is why things have already been rolled back due to
the feedback. I took almost three hours of my personal time last night doing
this by myself ASAP. See, us volunteer admins can get stuff done quickly, unlike
the corporate employees. We also take the feedback we get seriously and try to
work with everyone as best we can as we try to add new things to the catalog.
| | Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
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The volunteer admins have no choice but to move forward with ideas that are needed
for the catalog. We have the time and energy to try and make positive changes
for the user base. The corporate side does not. Eventually, the corporate side
will catch up (from things I have started to hear), but us volunteers have no
say and no way to do what is necessary to the code. We work in the systems we
have.
| | And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
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I am sorry to hear you say that. I am also annoyed at the lack of support that
I and the other volunteer admins get from corporate.
| | Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.
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I agree, but once again, the volunteer admins have the time and energy to try
to do things that help the user base even if the corporate side does not keep
up. We will keep trying new ideas, also, as the Catalog Roadmap lays out:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476
Remember, this isn't a developer roadmap. It is a roadmap for things that
the volunteer admins can do and solve.
Thanks for your comments.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | uvt203 | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 07:12 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, BasKrie writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy,
The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.
Regards,
Bas
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+1
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| Author: | Vosblokjes | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 05:18 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy,
The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.
Regards,
Bas
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| Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 23:41 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| I like the idea of adding and inventorying these boxes (especially the ones w/o
a peek hole), though I wish it could have been done years ago. Still, as they
say, better late than never.
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | JulieK | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 20:25 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
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Why not treat the sleeves like the rubber band holders? List them as extra items.
No harm, no foul, imo.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 15:52 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
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It is truly bizarre. There is this sleeve, for example:
which contains two minifigure capes. However, this sleeve which is called "Cardboard
Sleeve for Set 70837" doesn't actually appear in set 70837 since it contains
minifigure parts, which are listed with the minifigures. So we now have an entry
for a part that is not included in any sets and so is unlikely to ever be listed
in that way.
Then we have the same where the sleeves contain a single cape, for example:
Again it doesn't belong to any sets despite the name, since it belongs to
a minifigure.
It seems to be a case of making a rule then insisting on sticking to it for all
parts and sets, no matter how stupid the application of the rule is.
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I've got a great idea! To follow suit, lets start cataloging and selling
the numbered plastic bags that the pieces come in in each box. Actually, why
stop there, lets catalog the empty collectible minifig poly bags too. After
all that's technically LEGO is it not? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!
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You do realize these catalog entries are for the sealed cardboard sleeves with
contents in them, right? Because I don't think you do...
- Randy
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 15:43 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, Turez writes:
Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy, hi everyone,
I'm sorry I preempted your planned announcement. But since you have chosen
some pretty recent or popular sets (like the VW Bus), I'm quite sure someone
else would have asked soon about these changes if I had not started the discussion.
To explain the situation from my point of view: I saw the new catalog entries
for the cardboard sleeves a few days ago. No announcement, but I didn't think
much of it. However yesterday, I was surprised to see that they started to appear
in many inventories very quickly. I checked the inventory guidelines and found
the new rule for cardboard sleeves. Again: No announcement, no explanation
or something like this. So I just wanted to share my opinion and explained why
I thought these changes are not a very good idea.
Of course I am not generally against new ideas and of course you can test and
try everything you want - but it would be very helpful to announce it before
major changes are visible in the catalog. Otherwise you have to accept that someone
will ask about them.
| | In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories.
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Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear.
Regards,
Jonas
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| Author: | mwright5 | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 15:39 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
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It is truly bizarre. There is this sleeve, for example:
which contains two minifigure capes. However, this sleeve which is called "Cardboard
Sleeve for Set 70837" doesn't actually appear in set 70837 since it contains
minifigure parts, which are listed with the minifigures. So we now have an entry
for a part that is not included in any sets and so is unlikely to ever be listed
in that way.
Then we have the same where the sleeves contain a single cape, for example:
Again it doesn't belong to any sets despite the name, since it belongs to
a minifigure.
It seems to be a case of making a rule then insisting on sticking to it for all
parts and sets, no matter how stupid the application of the rule is.
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I've got a great idea! To follow suit, lets start cataloging and selling
the numbered plastic bags that the pieces come in in each box. Actually, why
stop there, lets catalog the empty collectible minifig poly bags too. After
all that's technically LEGO is it not? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 15:26 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | If you look up those axles you get told they are in 24 sets (and also 3 parts).
If I wanted to know which sets that axle came from I would naturally look at
the 24 sets but probably not look at the parts they come from. I wouldn't
find that they come in set 60051 when in reality they do.
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That is actually not how the system works. If you look at the sets that these
axles come in it will still list 60051 among them even though the cardboard sleeve
is listed in the set inventory. See also other parts that are not listed individually
in set inventories but are on sprues or in multipacks. For example
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 15:06 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
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Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.
Cheers,
Randy
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If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.
Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?
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Yes, you have misunderstood alternates. Alternate parts are parts that are completely
substituted for other parts in a set. These sleeves come in every set they came
in.
As Russell said, we will need to wait for new functionality before we can ever
add these to inventories in a meaningful way that makes it easy for sellers to
part them.
Cheers,
Randy
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Sorry I got confused. I meant actually counterpart and not alternate.
So as an example could you have
as a counterpart to having four of these
[x1687]
???
Of course, this doesn't meet the current definition of what a counterpart
is either - although in a way it does, if you open the sleeve then you have permanently
changed it. But this would mean listing the filled sleeve as the regular unperturbed
item and the four rods as counterparts (and what to do with the empty sleeve,
throw it away like an unused sprue?).
Again I may well have it wrong, as I tend to focus on which parts LEGO gives
us rather than how LEGO packages them in the box.
I can see it is a mess, trying to fit something new(ish) around existing rules
that were not put in place to do what is needed.
If you look up those axles you get told they are in 24 sets (and also 3 parts).
If I wanted to know which sets that axle came from I would naturally look at
the 24 sets but probably not look at the parts they come from. I wouldn't
find that they come in set 60051 when in reality they do.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
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Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.
Cheers,
Randy
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If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.
Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?
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Yes, you have misunderstood alternates. Alternate parts are parts that are completely
substituted for other parts in a set. These sleeves come in every set they came
in.
As Russell said, we will need to wait for new functionality before we can ever
add these to inventories in a meaningful way that makes it easy for sellers to
part them.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 14:12 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
|
Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.
Cheers,
Randy
|
If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.
Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
|
Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:35 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
In the future, yes.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| There are several catalog items created for one sticker sheet. For example
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6391stk02#T=S&C=0&O={%22color%22:0,%22iconly%22:0}
Is there any plan to improve this too?
In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories, Turez writes:
Folks, if anything is going to improve in the catalog, we need to give some freedom
and grace to our admins so they can try things out. I can understand if people
get frustrated when they find something has changed and it no longer works for
them, but please understand that we have the long-term interests of the site
in mind, and also that we can adjust and/or reverse any decision that is made.
Regarding these sleeves, we have needed to add them to the catalog for quite
a while now, because of the need to search by the number printed on the sleeve.
Strictly speaking, this is not a PCC, but it's still a number people can
use for reference. Specifically, we want to give the ability to sellers to sell
the parts in the sleeves without having to open the sleeves. The only way they
can do this is to have a reference database showing the contents of every sleeve.
Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
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Too late, you are already doing it!
| | Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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Why not get the partout system for sellers and buyers to handle it correctly,
then make the changes. As it is, anyone parting out a set with these sleeves
in needs to manually delete each sleeve from the part out, then go back and part
out any sleeves or similar.
Although from the comment above, I assume you don't know that these are already
being added as sleeves rather than as the component parts. If the sleeves are
added but not as regular parts, and the parts are still in the regular section,
then it is fine and easy to ignore. But that isn't the case.
Also parting out as a part doesn't work quite right. You have to select a
colour for the part to be able to part it out, even if you have already selected
Not Applicable as the colour on the part's page before parting out. So this
adds yet another click to the parting out a sleeve process.
Although shouldn't the colour of most of these sleeves be white rather than
not applicable? After all, they are white!
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:10 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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| BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Inventories, Proprietor writes:
| | In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
snip
| | Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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And yet, inventories are being changed, and the sleeve is being added as a regular
item and its component parts deleted:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=10220-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
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Yes, there were a number of them done this way yesterday, but we'll probably
need to make an adjustment.
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| Author: | Proprietor | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 12:53 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
snip
| | Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
|
And yet, inventories are being changed, and the sleeve is being added as a regular
item and its component parts deleted:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=10220-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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| BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Inventories, hpoort writes:
| | In Inventories, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
| | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
|
I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.
|
Understanding the wish for (1) having the sleeves in the catalog and thus the
need to include the in inventories somehow, and (2) leaving the functionality
of the inventories as is, brings me to a simple alternate solution:
Add the sleeves as ALTERNATE to the inventories only.
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This would fall under what is currently described as the counterpart section.
| |
Similar to
- a part with the sticker applied is alternate (as opposed to the stickersheet
and the plain part)
- a combination of parts that is hard to separate is alternate (as opposed
to the parts that make up the combination)
- the parts that are removed from a sprue (as opposed to the entire sprue)
and thus finally:
- a part still packed within the original sleeve (as opposed to the part without
packaging)
How about this alternative?
Hans-Peter
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| Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
| | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
|
I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.
|
Understanding the wish for (1) having the sleeves in the catalog and thus the
need to include the in inventories somehow, and (2) leaving the functionality
of the inventories as is, brings me to a simple alternate solution:
Add the sleeves as ALTERNATE to the inventories only.
Similar to
- a part with the sticker applied is alternate (as opposed to the stickersheet
and the plain part)
- a combination of parts that is hard to separate is alternate (as opposed
to the parts that make up the combination)
- the parts that are removed from a sprue (as opposed to the entire sprue)
and thus finally:
- a part still packed within the original sleeve (as opposed to the part without
packaging)
How about this alternative?
Hans-Peter
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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| BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
Folks, if anything is going to improve in the catalog, we need to give some freedom
and grace to our admins so they can try things out. I can understand if people
get frustrated when they find something has changed and it no longer works for
them, but please understand that we have the long-term interests of the site
in mind, and also that we can adjust and/or reverse any decision that is made.
Regarding these sleeves, we have needed to add them to the catalog for quite
a while now, because of the need to search by the number printed on the sleeve.
Strictly speaking, this is not a PCC, but it's still a number people can
use for reference. Specifically, we want to give the ability to sellers to sell
the parts in the sleeves without having to open the sleeves. The only way they
can do this is to have a reference database showing the contents of every sleeve.
Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 09:21 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
| | I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them.
|
And that was the idea to add them. We will be the only site which keeps their
references and documenting them.
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 08:38 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
| | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
|
I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.
|
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 08:16 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
|
It is truly bizarre. There is this sleeve, for example:
which contains two minifigure capes. However, this sleeve which is called "Cardboard
Sleeve for Set 70837" doesn't actually appear in set 70837 since it contains
minifigure parts, which are listed with the minifigures. So we now have an entry
for a part that is not included in any sets and so is unlikely to ever be listed
in that way.
Then we have the same where the sleeves contain a single cape, for example:
Again it doesn't belong to any sets despite the name, since it belongs to
a minifigure.
It seems to be a case of making a rule then insisting on sticking to it for all
parts and sets, no matter how stupid the application of the rule is.
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| Author: | mwright5 | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 07:55 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 07:51 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | Is there any demand to purchase open, empty cardboard sleeves?
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I don't think you can buy the empty sleeve because as soon as you open it,
you have the parts inside but the sleeve itself is not in the inventory of the
sleeve. Just as a sprue contains parts on it but not the sprue itself, a sleeve
does not contain the sleeve once opened. There is no listing for the sleeve only,
only a full (unopened) sleeve.
However, I guess some sellers will open the sleeves to check the parts inside
and sell them as new with "opened" in the comments. Although I imagine the parts
will sell better than the parts in the sleeve*. It would also be possible to
list the sleeve with comments saying "no parts inside, just the sleeve" if someone
really wanted to sell just the sleeve.
* This is where there might be a problem for wants lists. I imagine most people
putting a set together want the parts, not the parts in the sleeves. However,
parting the set out to a wants list (or parting out when selling) defaults to
the user wanting the parts in a sleeve and so they may well miss sellers that
have the parts that they want as they don't have them in the sleeve. It is
the problem of having multiple entries for the same part (or parts) just differing
in whether they are in some sort of useless packaging.
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| Author: | TallyToyBricks | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 06:54 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Like other have stated, this is not a really good idea.
I ran into this issue last night while trying to lookup some unsorted parts.
It just adds more steps to find an item.
Is there any demand to purchase open, empty cardboard sleeves?
This gets to the whole issue of Bricklink as a commerce platform versus Bricklink
as the unofficial catalog of all things LEGO. Making the catalog side more complicated
(or less intuitive) does not help the commerce side. Perhaps the commerce side
should take precedence in these type of situations.
Joe
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:59 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| This will also screw about with the price guide and wants lists, with decisions
about how to sell the part in the sleeve.
Do you sell a single part in a cardboard sleeve or do you sell it as the part?
These are two different entries with two different price guides.
It is like sets that contain a single part or minifigure - just introducing more
difficulty for users to sell / find what they want.
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| Author: | Hurt | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:46 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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