Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | BarbaraH  | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 09:20 | | Subject: | Re: Excel | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, BarbaraH writes:
| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file?
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The two file options in the download tab are not Excel
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| Author: | BarbaraH | | Posted: | Aug 24, 2019 05:50 | | Subject: | Excel | | Viewed: | 154 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| | Is there a way of downloading an inventory of a specific set as an Excel file? |
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| Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Aug 23, 2019 17:34 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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Folks, if anything is going to improve in the catalog, we need to give some freedom
and grace to our admins so they can try things out. I can understand if people
get frustrated when they find something has changed and it no longer works for
them, but please understand that we have the long-term interests of the site
in mind, and also that we can adjust and/or reverse any decision that is made.
Regarding these sleeves, we have needed to add them to the catalog for quite
a while now, because of the need to search by the number printed on the sleeve.
Strictly speaking, this is not a PCC, but it's still a number people can
use for reference. Specifically, we want to give the ability to sellers to sell
the parts in the sleeves without having to open the sleeves. The only way they
can do this is to have a reference database showing the contents of every sleeve.
Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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+1
I think this is a long time coming and a darn good add to the catalog. I hate
having to open the cardboard packages to know what is inside them.
Thank you for adding them and the hard work you guys are doing in regards to
things like this! Whenever changes are made there will always be a good number
of people who will hate the changes which I can respect to a degree for there
has been changes that took me a while to get used to but as mentioned, we need
to give some latitude to the people in charge of making these changes to see
what works and what does not and give constructive criticism and not just criticism.
Jim
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 23:53 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | The journey is the destination?
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I finished one of yours, Majesty.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 13:51 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | The journey is the destination?
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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Yes. You can go ahead.
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Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?
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I don't think we will know when it is done or really care if it ever is.
We just want to get as much information into the database as possible and have
a resource for all those people who want to know what comes in those little cardboard
sleeves without having to open them to sell.
Cheers,
Randy
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The journey is the destination?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 12:41 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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Yes. You can go ahead.
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Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?
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I don't think we will know when it is done or really care if it ever is.
We just want to get as much information into the database as possible and have
a resource for all those people who want to know what comes in those little cardboard
sleeves without having to open them to sell.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 10:20 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | If I was king around here
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Hmmmm
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 10:17 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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Yes. You can go ahead.
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Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 08:25 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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Yes. You can go ahead.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 08:21 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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Added for you
added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.
As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.
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So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 07:35 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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Added for you
added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.
As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.
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So if I understand this correctly we should use the inventory change request
for things that come in 'cardboard sleeves' 'little white boxes'
to include the printed number?
We have always keyed that straight into Google and found what was in the box
????
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 07:18 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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Added for you
added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.
As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 06:45 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.
I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.
From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 22, 2019 05:01 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | | | It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
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It is most definitely *not* a stupid question. If I was king around here, there
would be a place we could test this stuff without affecting the live data and
have sellers/buyers give feedback. Unfortunately, we don't have that. Maybe
we will someday...
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I said stupid question mainly because if you were needing to work on the live
site (hence affecting any users that have any interaction with the sets / parts
you are changing) then the answer is very likely to be that there isn't such
a test server.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 18:48 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
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It is most definitely *not* a stupid question. If I was king around here, there
would be a place we could test this stuff without affecting the live data and
have sellers/buyers give feedback. Unfortunately, we don't have that. Maybe
we will someday...
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 16:56 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
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It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
It seems crazy that any ideas that get tried out (that do affect regular users)
need to be made on the client facing server.
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(Snide: BL doesn’t even have _one_ working website. )
There was a second website where users (mainly sellers) were encouraged to go
when BL2 was to come (the new skin, the new main page, the new WLs, etc.). It
had an older version of the database, with no impact on the actual database.
Some people went there, made bug reports and remarks, and then the update was
put in production as it was and the people who didn’t go to the second site were
angry because they hadn’t known and those who went were angry too because they
weren’t heard.
And then everybody was adverse to any change. Go figure.
Anyway, the “sleeves” changes are on the catalogue, the database, not the website,
its skin and features. So that would mean the catmins would have changed a copy
of the database, then told us “eh, go see what we did,” and then we would have
had a discussion, and maybe a few back and forth, and in the end, they would
have to do all the final changes again on the real database because they don’t
have a direct access to the database and can’t write scripts or do partial saves
and partial updates and the actual database would have changed in the meanwhile
too.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 16:13 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | A user found out while the idea was being tested in the first two days. An announcement
was planned for today or tomorrow once the initial work was done. So, a total
of maybe four days from initial work to completion of testing work to communicating
with the user base for feedback. A pretty short timetable that was interrupted
by a user that was "snooping" around.
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| | For this, it would have all been explained in our announcement message that did
not get a chance to materialize due to someone interrupting the process.
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| | Yeah, we heard that. That is why things have already been rolled back due to
the feedback. I took almost three hours of my personal time last night doing
this by myself ASAP. See, us volunteer admins can get stuff done quickly, unlike
the corporate employees. We also take the feedback we get seriously and try to
work with everyone as best we can as we try to add new things to the catalog.
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| | The volunteer admins have no choice but to move forward with ideas that are needed
for the catalog. We have the time and energy to try and make positive changes
for the user base. The corporate side does not. Eventually, the corporate side
will catch up (from things I have started to hear), but us volunteers have no
say and no way to do what is necessary to the code. We work in the systems we
have.
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It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?
It seems crazy that any ideas that get tried out (that do affect regular users)
need to be made on the client facing server.
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 14:24 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | Best reply ever! Thank you so much for this! |
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, BasKrie writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy,
The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
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Actually, yes it was. We were trying it out for an entire total of two days.
| | It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
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We were implementing changes so that the user base would have something to comment
on when the idea was communicated to the user base in a couple of days. That
got sidetracked because someone noticed they were being added to the catalog
after one day. As I said, not a big deal, because we got the feedback we were
looking for earlier than planned and have made significant changes already. Also,
it had yet to cause any problems for anyone. The people that were testing the
idea came up with great constructive feedback on what was happening behind the
scenes, and that feedback was very welcomed (especially from member yorbrick).
| | A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
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A user found out while the idea was being tested in the first two days. An announcement
was planned for today or tomorrow once the initial work was done. So, a total
of maybe four days from initial work to completion of testing work to communicating
with the user base for feedback. A pretty short timetable that was interrupted
by a user that was "snooping" around.
| | Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
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Did I mention the communication part was coming within a day or two? And am I
or Marek or Russell not communicating now?  Do not confuse the BrickLink corporate
lack of communication with the volunteer admins who communicate very regularly.
Just have a search through the forums and you will see that the volunteer admins
are very present and remain accountable to the users here.
| | Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
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For this, it would have all been explained in our announcement message that did
not get a chance to materialize due to someone interrupting the process.
| | And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
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Yeah, we heard that. That is why things have already been rolled back due to
the feedback. I took almost three hours of my personal time last night doing
this by myself ASAP. See, us volunteer admins can get stuff done quickly, unlike
the corporate employees. We also take the feedback we get seriously and try to
work with everyone as best we can as we try to add new things to the catalog.
| | Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
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The volunteer admins have no choice but to move forward with ideas that are needed
for the catalog. We have the time and energy to try and make positive changes
for the user base. The corporate side does not. Eventually, the corporate side
will catch up (from things I have started to hear), but us volunteers have no
say and no way to do what is necessary to the code. We work in the systems we
have.
| | And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
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I am sorry to hear you say that. I am also annoyed at the lack of support that
I and the other volunteer admins get from corporate.
| | Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.
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I agree, but once again, the volunteer admins have the time and energy to try
to do things that help the user base even if the corporate side does not keep
up. We will keep trying new ideas, also, as the Catalog Roadmap lays out:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476
Remember, this isn't a developer roadmap. It is a roadmap for things that
the volunteer admins can do and solve.
Thanks for your comments.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | uvt203 | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 07:12 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, BasKrie writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy,
The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.
Regards,
Bas
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+1
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| Author: | Vosblokjes | | Posted: | Aug 21, 2019 05:18 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy,
The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.
Regards,
Bas
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| Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 23:41 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| I like the idea of adding and inventorying these boxes (especially the ones w/o
a peek hole), though I wish it could have been done years ago. Still, as they
say, better late than never.
| | Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | JulieK | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 20:25 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
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Why not treat the sleeves like the rubber band holders? List them as extra items.
No harm, no foul, imo.
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