Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | yorbrick  | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 14:12 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
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Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.
Cheers,
Randy
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If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.
Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
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Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:35 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
In the future, yes.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.
In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| There are several catalog items created for one sticker sheet. For example
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6391stk02#T=S&C=0&O={%22color%22:0,%22iconly%22:0}
Is there any plan to improve this too?
In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories, Turez writes:
Folks, if anything is going to improve in the catalog, we need to give some freedom
and grace to our admins so they can try things out. I can understand if people
get frustrated when they find something has changed and it no longer works for
them, but please understand that we have the long-term interests of the site
in mind, and also that we can adjust and/or reverse any decision that is made.
Regarding these sleeves, we have needed to add them to the catalog for quite
a while now, because of the need to search by the number printed on the sleeve.
Strictly speaking, this is not a PCC, but it's still a number people can
use for reference. Specifically, we want to give the ability to sellers to sell
the parts in the sleeves without having to open the sleeves. The only way they
can do this is to have a reference database showing the contents of every sleeve.
Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
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Too late, you are already doing it!
| | Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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Why not get the partout system for sellers and buyers to handle it correctly,
then make the changes. As it is, anyone parting out a set with these sleeves
in needs to manually delete each sleeve from the part out, then go back and part
out any sleeves or similar.
Although from the comment above, I assume you don't know that these are already
being added as sleeves rather than as the component parts. If the sleeves are
added but not as regular parts, and the parts are still in the regular section,
then it is fine and easy to ignore. But that isn't the case.
Also parting out as a part doesn't work quite right. You have to select a
colour for the part to be able to part it out, even if you have already selected
Not Applicable as the colour on the part's page before parting out. So this
adds yet another click to the parting out a sleeve process.
Although shouldn't the colour of most of these sleeves be white rather than
not applicable? After all, they are white!
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 13:10 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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Location:  USA, California |
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| In Inventories, Proprietor writes:
| | In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
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| | Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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And yet, inventories are being changed, and the sleeve is being added as a regular
item and its component parts deleted:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=10220-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
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Yes, there were a number of them done this way yesterday, but we'll probably
need to make an adjustment.
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| Author: | Proprietor | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 12:53 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
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| | Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.
Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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And yet, inventories are being changed, and the sleeve is being added as a regular
item and its component parts deleted:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=10220-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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ID CardAdmin_Russell
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| Location: USA, California |
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| In Inventories, hpoort writes:
| | In Inventories, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
| | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
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I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.
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Understanding the wish for (1) having the sleeves in the catalog and thus the
need to include the in inventories somehow, and (2) leaving the functionality
of the inventories as is, brings me to a simple alternate solution:
Add the sleeves as ALTERNATE to the inventories only.
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This would fall under what is currently described as the counterpart section.
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Similar to
- a part with the sticker applied is alternate (as opposed to the stickersheet
and the plain part)
- a combination of parts that is hard to separate is alternate (as opposed
to the parts that make up the combination)
- the parts that are removed from a sprue (as opposed to the entire sprue)
and thus finally:
- a part still packed within the original sleeve (as opposed to the part without
packaging)
How about this alternative?
Hans-Peter
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| Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
| | Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
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I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.
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Understanding the wish for (1) having the sleeves in the catalog and thus the
need to include the in inventories somehow, and (2) leaving the functionality
of the inventories as is, brings me to a simple alternate solution:
Add the sleeves as ALTERNATE to the inventories only.
Similar to
- a part with the sticker applied is alternate (as opposed to the stickersheet
and the plain part)
- a combination of parts that is hard to separate is alternate (as opposed
to the parts that make up the combination)
- the parts that are removed from a sprue (as opposed to the entire sprue)
and thus finally:
- a part still packed within the original sleeve (as opposed to the part without
packaging)
How about this alternative?
Hans-Peter
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