Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | yorbrick  | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:39 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Also it seems parting out sets is now broken. Will there be an option added (like
break sets in set) to break parts in sleeves / multipacks? Selecting break sets
in set does not open up the multipacks or sleeves.
Try parting out a set, and the only option seems to be to list the sleeve, not
is what is actually in the sleeve. To list the parts you now need to do that
manually.
This is a really bad decision, Bricklink! BL should make things easier for sellers
to sell parts, not make it increasingly difficult.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:34 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Turez writes:
There is also an issue with the naming. For example:
is currently called "Cardboard Sleeve for Sets 60051, 60052". It has exactly
the same name as
But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?
already has five set numbers in the name, what will the limit be? If it appears
in 100 sets, will they all be named in the description?
And isn't a natural extension of this to catalogue, for example, bag 1 from
set XXXX, bag 2 from set XXXX, and so on (where these bags do not contain any
minifigure parts)? After all, that is how LEGO supplies them in a set. They are
not individual parts in a box, they are multiple parts in a defined bag in a
box. How big does a bag have to be before it is no longer a multipack? So when
a set contains a small bag of 1x1 parts in a larger bag, is that now considered
a multipack or is it the parts in a bag?
And what about instructions when they are supplied with a sticker sheet inside
a polythene bag and a piece of card? Is that a cardboard sleeve / multipack or
just the instructions and a sticker sheet?
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| Author: | Hurt | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2019 05:24 | | Subject: | Re: Cardboard sleeves in inventories | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Wow, who thought that this is a good idea and why?
By the way - many sets came with labeled plastic bags (like "1", "2", "3", etc.)
- let's add them as well and move all parts that are in it to the bag item
instead of the set. But don't forget that there are even smaller bags in
the big bags, those need to be listed as well (inside the big bag, containing
the correct parts of course)!
Sorry, this is just ...
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| Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2019 22:12 | | Subject: | Re: Weird order/inventory problem | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, C0lsanders_ writes:
| | I have 2 (particular) orders received, only 208 difference by order number. First
order, guy buys 60 of a part. I have "Quantity left" enabled, and it says 0 left.
The next order, another guy buys 10 of the that same part, which he of course
shouldn't be able to do. Also says 0 left. I find in filling these, I do
have only the 60. What might have gone wrong? Both sets of parts in carts at
the same time, maybe?
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You might know this, but just in case -
The "quantity left" will show what you have left right now, not what was left
when the order was placed. So looking at the current "quantity left" on both
orders won't tell you anything.
Niek.
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| Author: | C0lsanders_ | | Posted: | Aug 19, 2019 21:37 | | Subject: | Weird order/inventory problem | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have 2 (particular) orders received, only 208 difference by order number. First
order, guy buys 60 of a part. I have "Quantity left" enabled, and it says 0 left.
The next order, another guy buys 10 of the that same part, which he of course
shouldn't be able to do. Also says 0 left. I find in filling these, I do
have only the 60. What might have gone wrong? Both sets of parts in carts at
the same time, maybe?
Thanks,
Miles (C0lsanders_)
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Aug 18, 2019 10:39 | | Subject: | Re: Specific Lots -> Specific Countries | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
| | In Inventories, Cheshire_Bricks writes:
| | Hi,
Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?
I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)
Thank you in advance for any help!
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How about manually setting the dimensions of the sets to something huge, and
then allocating a postage method for that size that's UK only. And adding
something in the comments to that effect as well.
Matt
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The part will still show up in the listings however, together with a "seller
ships to me" message. It's clever but it also kind of breaks the Bricklink
interface.
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| Author: | WhiteHorseMatt | | Posted: | Aug 18, 2019 10:12 | | Subject: | Re: Specific Lots -> Specific Countries | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Cheshire_Bricks writes:
| | Hi,
Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?
I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)
Thank you in advance for any help!
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How about manually setting the dimensions of the sets to something huge, and
then allocating a postage method for that size that's UK only. And adding
something in the comments to that effect as well.
Matt
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| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Aug 18, 2019 09:06 | | Subject: | Re: Specific Lots -> Specific Countries | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Cheshire_Bricks writes:
| | Hi,
Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?
I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)
Thank you in advance for any help!
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It's not possible to differentiate.
In theory you could describe the item as for UK only and mark the item for manual
invoice and cancel orders with the item from other countries.
It would probably lead to issues, because many people don't read. You'll
get a discussion if it's a valid order.
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| Author: | Minifig_Central | | Posted: | Aug 18, 2019 04:49 | | Subject: | Specific Lots -> Specific Countries | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?
I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)
Thank you in advance for any help!
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| Author: | sircueball | | Posted: | Aug 14, 2019 20:21 | | Subject: | Inventory for set 3301-1 wrong color forpart? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I little while ago I parted out and just sold
* | | 41169c01 (Inv) Duplo Winch Drum Narrow with White String and Black Thin Hook Fixed with Stud Holder
Parts: DUPLO |
I just got a message from the buyer that they received Pearl Light Gray and not
Flat Silver.
I also happen to have this completed set currently listed so I checked that part
in that one. It looks like Pearl Light Gray also.
Is there someone that can verify it truly is Flat Silver in this set? I got these
in a big used lot so I can't say for sure.
At the very least just be sure to be check the colors before just parting out
a set. I unfortunately didn't.
Thanks
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| Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Aug 12, 2019 19:53 | | Subject: | Re: What set does this piece go to??? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Mistress_Lisa writes:
| | In Inventories, JayEll3 writes:
| | I have this piece and I don’t know what set it belongs to. I don’t even know
how to search for it. Any help would be appreciated!!
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It is this part:
According to the catalog, this part comes in 5 sets in that color. All are Jack
Stone, from the 4 Juniors collection.
Lisa
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I just saw the picture you have up. That is funny. Made me smile today.
John P
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| Author: | Mistress_Lisa | | Posted: | Aug 12, 2019 19:42 | | Subject: | Re: What set does this piece go to??? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, JayEll3 writes:
| | I have this piece and I don’t know what set it belongs to. I don’t even know
how to search for it. Any help would be appreciated!!
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It is this part:
According to the catalog, this part comes in 5 sets in that color. All are Jack
Stone, from the 4 Juniors collection.
Lisa
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| Author: | JayEll3 | | Posted: | Aug 12, 2019 19:37 | | Subject: | What set does this piece go to??? | | Viewed: | 104 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I have this piece and I don’t know what set it belongs to. I don’t even know
how to search for it. Any help would be appreciated!!
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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These have now been added to the set inventory.
Now awaiting approval of minifig and set inventories and job should be done.
Approx. 6 hours of unpaid work leaving me with a used set. I think that'll
be my first and last inventory. But thanks for letting me try it out.
/Jan
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 10:37 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
| | In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
Inventory work should be complete now except for two stickered parts that are
still pending.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 10:32 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
Inventory work should be complete now except for two stickered parts that are
still pending.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 18:12 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Should the statue in this set be considered a minifig?
/Jan
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 12:31 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | BTW, I found the hat. It's part 17349 (previously only been released with
print, e.g. ).
/Jan
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When you have system plain part you can just add LEGO render from LEGO replacment
parts service.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 09:28 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
| | I do think I'm capable of creating the parts/minifigs/inventory correctly,
but as previously stated, I don't know what names I should use for the parts
and minifigs, and I can't supply correct weight of all of them, neither can
I supply professional photos. I need help with that.
BTW, I found the hat. It's part 17349 (previously only been released with
print, e.g. ).
/Jan
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As complete minfigs check how other in Harry Potter are named then name it similar.
Names of minfigs should be also how LEGO names them on the box or in the offcial
description of set. (It is on LEGO S&H page)
https://shop.lego.com/en-PL/product/the-rise-of-voldemort-75965
"Includes 4 minifigures: Harry Potter™ with wand and Triwizard Challenge outfit,
Lord Voldemort™ with wand, Peter Pettigrew with wand and a Death Eater™."
So there you have minfig names 
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&catString=227&itemBrand=1000&catType=M&v=1
as for weight it is not needed when submitting item to the catalog. Those things
are only needed to get things approved
number
name
image
and that is it.
Weight can be later added by users who can weight it.
Images also don;t need to be super professional
some examples
till we can see what item looks like it is ok.
there are many users who can later correct images to better one.
As for parts names just this advise just look how other similar parts are named
and adjust it to your part
Example one of your torso, look how other are named, there are some things which
are in all torsos names.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=973pb%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1
last one as an example
and template for naming torsos
Torso [here you enter describtion what pattern is on torso] Pattern / [color]
Arms / [color] Hands
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 09:10 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| I do think I'm capable of creating the parts/minifigs/inventory correctly,
but as previously stated, I don't know what names I should use for the parts
and minifigs, and I can't supply correct weight of all of them, neither can
I supply professional photos. I need help with that.
BTW, I found the hat. It's part 17349 (previously only been released with
print, e.g. ).
/Jan
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 09:02 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
| | Hello
After having been on BL for a couple of years, both as a buyer and seller and
submitter to the catalog, I wanted to take up the challenge of making an inventory
for a set, and I chose set because I just bought it. At this point,
I have only submitted the sticker sheet to the catalog, and I'm stuck with
10 parts that seem to be new (their PCCs don't exist on BrickLink and I can't
find them through search). I have a few questions for the upcoming work.
1) Should I leave it to a professional to do all this work? I'm thinking
that I can't provide professional pictures of the new parts and I can't
name the remaining parts or supply weight for them.
2) If the answer to 1) is "no", could someone please help me identify the remaining
10 parts or provide me with good names for the parts so I can add them to the
catalog? What do I do with the weight of the parts? I don't have a weight
with the precision needed.
Attached are pictures of the 10 new parts.
/Jan
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They are mostly minifigs parts, legs, torsos etc. For inventory you should add
comelete minifigures assemblies as showed in the instruction.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?itemYear=2019&catString=227&itemBrand=1000&catType=M
This baby infant should be also added as minfig
Here you have similar ones
* | | frnd279 Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Large Eyes Pattern (Baby Ola) (6193930)
Minifigures: Friends |
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After you add those as minifigs to the set than you can do their inventories
legs:
another new printed legs for the catalog
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=970c00%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1
another new printed torsos
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=973pb%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1
another new printed heads
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=3626c%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1
You can add them as separate parts also (by checking how they are listed in the
catalog at above links) but inv admins will require complete minifigs for this
inventory
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=199
"Minifigures - Include whole minifigures as seen in the instructions without
any hand-held accessories. Parts included in minifigures should not be included
in the Regular Items section. Sometimes a set may contain more of the same parts
found on a minifigure in the set (for example: a set includes three helmets with
castle chin guard, but only one of them is on the minifigure). In these cases
include the whole minifigure and then include any additional parts in the Regular
Items section."
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 08:57 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
| | Hello
After having been on BL for a couple of years, both as a buyer and seller and
submitter to the catalog, I wanted to take up the challenge of making an inventory
for a set, and I chose set because I just bought it. At this point,
I have only submitted the sticker sheet to the catalog, and I'm stuck with
10 parts that seem to be new (their PCCs don't exist on BrickLink and I can't
find them through search). I have a few questions for the upcoming work.
1) Should I leave it to a professional to do all this work? I'm thinking
that I can't provide professional pictures of the new parts and I can't
name the remaining parts or supply weight for them.
2) If the answer to 1) is "no", could someone please help me identify the remaining
10 parts or provide me with good names for the parts so I can add them to the
catalog? What do I do with the weight of the parts? I don't have a weight
with the precision needed.
Attached are pictures of the 10 new parts.
/Jan
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They are mostly minifigs parts, legs, torsos etc. For inventory you should add
comelete minifigures assemblies as showed in the instruction.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?itemYear=2019&catString=227&itemBrand=1000&catType=M
This baby infant should be also added as minfig
Here you have similar ones
* | | frnd279 Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Large Eyes Pattern (Baby Ola) (6193930)
Minifigures: Friends |
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 08:45 | | Subject: | Re: Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Here's the right other side of Peter Pettigrew's head (the first two
images show the same side).
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2019 08:43 | | Subject: | Help with inventory | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello
After having been on BL for a couple of years, both as a buyer and seller and
submitter to the catalog, I wanted to take up the challenge of making an inventory
for a set, and I chose set because I just bought it. At this point,
I have only submitted the sticker sheet to the catalog, and I'm stuck with
10 parts that seem to be new (their PCCs don't exist on BrickLink and I can't
find them through search). I have a few questions for the upcoming work.
1) Should I leave it to a professional to do all this work? I'm thinking
that I can't provide professional pictures of the new parts and I can't
name the remaining parts or supply weight for them.
2) If the answer to 1) is "no", could someone please help me identify the remaining
10 parts or provide me with good names for the parts so I can add them to the
catalog? What do I do with the weight of the parts? I don't have a weight
with the precision needed.
Attached are pictures of the 10 new parts.
/Jan
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| Author: | Jacerish | | Posted: | Aug 3, 2019 08:56 | | Subject: | Pending inventory for set 75936 T.rex rampage | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Pending inventory for set 75936 T.rex rampage
This set been out for a while now . Is there time scale how long it might take
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Thank you for take in time to read this
Mark
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| Author: | brickbox83 | | Posted: | Aug 1, 2019 03:41 | | Subject: | Re: How to compare parts lists with my inventory | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| Thanks for those replies.
I have done that but it is totally manual and long winded. That will show you
what is available but you have to search through and compare to find out what
is missing as far as I can see.
As a seller it would be good to have a report that shows what stock you have
already sold from a kit that has been parted out into your inventory.
In Inventories, brickbox83 writes:
| | Hey,
Anyone know how to compare a parts list of a set (that I have previously parted
out) with my current inventory of parts in that set to see what parts have already
sold.
Thanks.
Brickbox83
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 16:38 | | Subject: | Re: 76130 Stark Jet and the Dr... No Inventory | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, InqMikhailovich writes:
Oh, no need. It was no trouble.
I see it can be had for 20% off now. I will be at the store this evening and
I'll evaluate again.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 16:03 | | Subject: | Re: 76130 Stark Jet and the Dr... No Inventory | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, InqMikhailovich writes:
| | The Spider-Man: Far From Home set 76130 Stark Jet and the Drone Attack currently
has "N/A" listed as its inventory, while all three other Spider-Man: Far From
Home sets have inventories available. Is there a reason for this?
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When someone who owns the set decides to submit the inventory to BrickLink, it
will become available. Until that time, it will remain as not completed.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | InqMikhailovich | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 15:59 | | Subject: | Re: 76130 Stark Jet and the Dr... No Inventory | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | ...Thanks...? |
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 14:05 | | Subject: | Re: 76130 Stark Jet and the Dr... No Inventory | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, InqMikhailovich writes:
| | The Spider-Man: Far From Home set 76130 Stark Jet and the Drone Attack currently
has "N/A" listed as its inventory, while all three other Spider-Man: Far From
Home sets have inventories available. Is there a reason for this?
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It is because I didn't think the plane was very cool and I didn't buy
it.
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| Author: | InqMikhailovich | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 13:46 | | Subject: | 76130 Stark Jet and the Dr... No Inventory | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| The Spider-Man: Far From Home set 76130 Stark Jet and the Drone Attack currently
has "N/A" listed as its inventory, while all three other Spider-Man: Far From
Home sets have inventories available. Is there a reason for this?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 13:16 | | Subject: | Re: How to compare parts lists with my inventory | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, VOTB writes:
| | If you put all the items you want into a "want list" you can visit your own store
and see what parts you have that are on that want list.
At the top of the page under your "Shop," "Terms," and "Feedback" tabs you will
see "Wanted List." If you click on that you can cycle through your want lists
and see what you have.
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And you can part out a set in a WL here: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/wanted/partout.page
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| Author: | VOTB | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 12:44 | | Subject: | Re: How to compare parts lists with my inventory | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| If you put all the items you want into a "want list" you can visit your own store
and see what parts you have that are on that want list.
At the top of the page under your "Shop," "Terms," and "Feedback" tabs you will
see "Wanted List." If you click on that you can cycle through your want lists
and see what you have.
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| Author: | brickbox83 | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2019 07:50 | | Subject: | How to compare parts lists with my inventory | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hey,
Anyone know how to compare a parts list of a set (that I have previously parted
out) with my current inventory of parts in that set to see what parts have already
sold.
Thanks.
Brickbox83
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| Author: | hockeyweasel | | Posted: | Jul 29, 2019 15:35 | | Subject: | Pending Inventory for 75948-1 back to N/A | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| The inventory for the Hogwarts Clock Tower 75948-1 was 'In Progress'
and then 'Pending Approval' about a week later, and within a couple of
days it went back to N/A. What happened?
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| Author: | DrFrag | | Posted: | Jul 25, 2019 07:22 | | Subject: | Re: Anomalous extra part in 31056-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
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Please submit the change request, and it will be approved. I will also add a
note to the inventory once that happens.
Cheers,
Randy
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No problem, change request submitted. Thread is here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1150365
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2019 11:10 | | Subject: | Re: Anomalous extra part in 31056-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, DrFrag writes:
| | I just parted out a single sealed retail box of 31056-1 and all the parts were
correct, except it came with an extra Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Brick 1 x 12
with Holes. This is the largest part in the entire set and mine had 3 instead
of 2. The instructions indicate only 2 are needed. All 3 were loose in the
cardboard box and not in the sealed plastic bags.
I'm hesitant to submit an inventory change request because this set came
out a couple of years ago so I expect its database entry is settled, and I've
never seen an extra part this large before.
Should I just chalk this up as a one-off oddity?
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Please submit the change request, and it will be approved. I will also add a
note to the inventory once that happens.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | SurplusParts | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2019 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: Anomalous extra part in 31056-1 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| I remember parting out 8 or so last year and i think 6 of them had the extra
technic brick. Don't know why. It's like some of the earlier brickheadz
had an extra 6*8 black plate in them.
In smaller sets if there is one large part in it they are usually loose in the
box.
Inventories, DrFrag writes:
| | I just parted out a single sealed retail box of 31056-1 and all the parts were
correct, except it came with an extra Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Brick 1 x 12
with Holes. This is the largest part in the entire set and mine had 3 instead
of 2. The instructions indicate only 2 are needed. All 3 were loose in the
cardboard box and not in the sealed plastic bags.
I'm hesitant to submit an inventory change request because this set came
out a couple of years ago so I expect its database entry is settled, and I've
never seen an extra part this large before.
Should I just chalk this up as a one-off oddity?
|
|
|
| Author: | DrFrag | | Posted: | Jul 24, 2019 08:08 | | Subject: | Anomalous extra part in 31056-1 | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| I just parted out a single sealed retail box of 31056-1 and all the parts were
correct, except it came with an extra Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Brick 1 x 12
with Holes. This is the largest part in the entire set and mine had 3 instead
of 2. The instructions indicate only 2 are needed. All 3 were loose in the
cardboard box and not in the sealed plastic bags.
I'm hesitant to submit an inventory change request because this set came
out a couple of years ago so I expect its database entry is settled, and I've
never seen an extra part this large before.
Should I just chalk this up as a one-off oddity?
|
|
| Author: | GIT_Some_Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: New snake 38801 incorrect color | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| I did just get it in an order. I didn't realized that there was also the
olive green printed version. Thanks!
|
|
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: New snake 38801 incorrect color | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Catalog Requests, GIT_Some_Bricks writes:
| | I believe the new snake part 38801 from set 71043 has been incorrectly logged
as Sand Green when it is actually Olive Green. At least the one I have (in the
pic) is clearly olive green. Can anyone else verify?
|
The set was originally inventories with the olive green snake with black eyes.
It was later changed to the sand green snake with no printing. If you got the
snake from that set, the inventory needs to be updated with the variant. But
if you just got a snake in an order or in a bulk lot, you probably just got the
one that came in CMF.
|
|
| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: New snake 38801 incorrect color | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Catalog Requests, GIT_Some_Bricks writes:
| | I believe the new snake part 38801 from set 71043 has been incorrectly logged
as Sand Green when it is actually Olive Green. At least the one I have (in the
pic) is clearly olive green. Can anyone else verify?
|
The olive green snake is this part:
Did you find this snake in set 71043?
Regards,
Jonas
|
|
| Author: | GIT_Some_Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2019 12:07 | | Subject: | New snake 38801 incorrect color | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| I believe the new snake part 38801 from set 71043 has been incorrectly logged
as Sand Green when it is actually Olive Green. At least the one I have (in the
pic) is clearly olive green. Can anyone else verify?
|
|
| Author: | building4ever | | Posted: | Jul 22, 2019 05:32 | | Subject: | Re: 10244: 4x 3023 vs. 6 x 3023 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, building4ever writes:
The step on page 11 that uses 1x must be repeated 3x to build all three arms
of the ride. Those are the two that you are missing.
Cheers,
Randy
|
You are right! Thx
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 21, 2019 14:47 | | Subject: | Re: 10244: 4x 3023 vs. 6 x 3023 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, building4ever writes:
The step on page 11 that uses 1x must be repeated 3x to build all three arms
of the ride. Those are the two that you are missing.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2019 14:31 | | Subject: | Re: 6021 Wrong inventory | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Ossdorp writes:
| | Hi,
There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.
Ciao!
Tim
|
All of the plumes are in this set and follow the inventory guidelines laid out
here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2019 10:42 | | Subject: | Re: 6021 Wrong inventory | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories, Ossdorp writes:
| | Hi,
There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.
Ciao!
Tim
|
Are you sure they didn't come with [p=4502c01]?
|
There were plumes on the round spew in this set.
John P
|
| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2019 07:50 | | Subject: | Re: 6021 Wrong inventory | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Ossdorp writes:
| | Hi,
There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.
Ciao!
Tim
|
Are you sure they didn't come with [p=4502c01]?
|
| Author: | Ossdorp | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2019 07:48 | | Subject: | 6021 Wrong inventory | | Viewed: | 107 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hi,
There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.
Ciao!
Tim
|
|
| Author: | Andrsv | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 13:06 | | Subject: | Re: What sets could I build from my inventory | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, szellandor writes:
| | Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets
|
Don't get your hopes up. I've bought a lot of bulk lego (from Norwegian
site finn.no). Many claims that "all parts are probably there, but I can't
guarantee". Out of 100sets, there could be maybe 3-5complete sets. Most sets
have unique or rare parts, so it didn't help me much to have 5000 unique
spare parts. Rebrickable.com is great for finding what you can build, but you
will probably need some spare parts from bricklink 😉
2years ago I was doing what you probably are doing now. Then I got this idea
that it would be fun to have as many unique bricks as possible so that I could
build whatever I want whenever I want. Doesn't seem like it is going to happen,
I'm at about 10.000 unique now.
Have fun
|
|
| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 09:03 | | Subject: | Re: What sets could I build from my inventory | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, szellandor writes:
| | Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets
|
https://rebrickable.com/
|
|
| Author: | BRICKcycling | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2019 09:02 | | Subject: | What sets could I build from my inventory | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets
|
|
| Author: | bb598 | | Posted: | Jul 7, 2019 23:45 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
OK, thanks for the explanation, and sorry for the "troubles"... I just wanted
to notice a possible issue, which is not an issue anyway.
Julien
|
The My Own Train locomotive sets 3740 and 3741 were designed to build TWO different
models with full instructions to do so. When building one or the other, there
will be pieces left over.
Here is the page from the instructions showing the alternate build that does
use each of the pieces you show in your original post.
http://lego.brickinstructions.com/03000/3741/013.jpg
These set inventories have stood unchanged for many years because they are accurate
and correct. They were produced and sold by LEGO back before there used to be
intentional Extra Pieces, so every piece in the inventory is needed to build
either the primary or the secondary model.
Also, the packs of colored bricks for these sets --
contain the correct parts to build either the
short locomotive or the long locomotive. When done building one or the other,
there will be different pieces left over, but all of the pieces are needed for
one or the other with no extra pieces at all.
____
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 19:14 | | Subject: | Re: inventory question | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In General, mattallica writes:
| | recently i have been buying some Duplo figures for my son and have noted that
figures like Batman that have a cape are inventoried without them meaning to
get a complete figure you must buy the cape separately.
why is this? minifigs come with their capes?
|
Duplo figures have historically not been inventoried with their capes, and I
honestly don't know why. It is something that should probably be added to
the Catalog Roadmap for consideration of being changed.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | mattallica | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 18:22 | | Subject: | inventory question | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| recently i have been buying some Duplo figures for my son and have noted that
figures like Batman that have a cape are inventoried without them meaning to
get a complete figure you must buy the cape separately.
why is this? minifigs come with their capes?
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
No, this example does not invalidate what I am saying. It demonstrates how the
rule applied here, if applied consistently, could lead to inconsistencies in
the inventories. It gives you "accurate" results in this case, but this is only
one case. Had this set only been produced in Europe and had no part count on
the box, it would lead to a different inventory - IF the rule was consistently
applied.
On the other hand, if the extra part designation were eliminated completely,
and the foolish reliance on the imaginary "official" part count was also eliminated,
then it would have the same inventory whether or not there was a part count printed
on the box.
I'm just extending what we are being told is the sole intent of the inventories
on Bricklink - to document the contents of the box so that sellers can more efficiently
part them out. I don't agree this should be the sole intent, but it is what
it is. That being the case, why is there a need to build up ever-more complicated
policies which introduce apparent inconsistencies and rely on the whim of Lego
continuing a practice it has already shown it is willing to change?
|
You sure do like to flog a life-challenged equine. The set inventory will stand
as is. That is the final decision of the entire admin team.
|
It is telling that you think I'm calling for the inventory to be changed.
I'm not. The only change I've called for is the elimination of the extra
parts designation, since the admins have to dance around with sets like this
to explain why it is an apparent exception.
If that change were made, this set would stand exactly as it is. So really, I'm
calling for all other set inventories to follow what this one does - put everything
known to be in the box in the regular section.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 13:10 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The foolish policy to which I refer is the one that uses the "official parts
count" as the primary guide for what goes in the regular section when there is
no part list.
|
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models
plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official
parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the
packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section.
Where does it say anything about the official parts count being the primary guide?
It is listed first because it is the easiest and most useful thing to check.
There are cases where the instructions have the final say, e.g. in a situation
where the instructions call for a greater number of parts than the official parts
count.
|
It doesn't say it. This is my point. In this set, since there is no part
list, we are told that the regular items may be determined by the part count,
the instructions, etc.
In this set, using the instructions would give you one set of results that includes
extra parts, but using the part count gives you a different set of results that
does not include extra parts. There is a conflict. A choice has to be made on
which method to use. According to Randy, the part count trumps the instructions,
so that is the method that was used: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1147636
| |
| | That policy does not serve sellers who want to part out sets, because
there is no consistent way Lego has counted parts in the past, and part counts
are not included on all sets now.
|
LEGO part counts are exceptionally reliable. There are a few cases where things
don't line up, but for 99.9% of the cases they are spot on. We know that
some sets don't have them, but that is nothing new. Sets produced for the
European market in the 1970's never had them.
|
You are not accounting for the fact that Lego has changed what it calls a "part."
When trying to reconcile the "official" count with the number of individual items
in the box, you sometimes have to consider a minifig torso and head as one piece,
as Lego sometimes did. Or you have to leave out the flowers, because they are
not "interlocking" pieces and therefore not included in the total. Or you may
have to count individual stickers (which is the only way I can even get close
to 779 parts in the Yellow Castle).
So we ignore the part count in some instances, but use it to define the complete
set in others. Any rule that relies on exceptions for it to work is not a good
rule. It would be simpler to get rid of the extra parts section and obviate the
need for any such rule at all.
| |
| | That policy is not spelled out anywhere in the help pages. It is listed among
the possible sources in the absence of a part list, but it is not explained that
it is considered more important than the instructions.
|
It is spelled out as much as it needs to be. Any further details about how part
lists were counted slightly differently over the years or limitations of their
usefulness are matters of discussion among collectors. Please read these as examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1027168
https://www.bricklink.com/aboutMe.asp?u=viejos&pageID=16500
We're not going to put that level of detail in the Help Pages. Our Inv Admins
have access to this kind of information to help them make informed decisions,
but it's too much for the general BrickLink public.
|
It is noted that the official stance is that we just don't need to know how
these decisions are made.
| |
| | This case illustrates the foolishness of this policy. The criterion for including
these leftover parts in the regular section - and thereby including them in any
part-out and in requiring them to be present to sell the set as "complete" -
is a number printed on the package. If this set had been released just in Europe
with no part count on the box, those parts would be extras, could be excluded
from a part-out, and would not be required in a "complete" set.
|
Maybe, but probably not. We have other ways to determine what parts should be
considered regular, and one of them is related sets.
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
The parts count is just one tool out of many that we use. It is not used to remove
actual contents from a set, or to add things that were never there. BrickLink's
standard is a sealed set, and that's where we start from when building an
inventory.
|
I put "inside" in quotes, because I mean the theoretical set made up of regular
parts. This is what a "complete" used set is made up of. Parts are indeed moved
in and out of this "complete" set based on the arcane rules we are not to be
made aware of.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 12:53 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
No, this example does not invalidate what I am saying. It demonstrates how the
rule applied here, if applied consistently, could lead to inconsistencies in
the inventories. It gives you "accurate" results in this case, but this is only
one case. Had this set only been produced in Europe and had no part count on
the box, it would lead to a different inventory - IF the rule was consistently
applied.
On the other hand, if the extra part designation were eliminated completely,
and the foolish reliance on the imaginary "official" part count was also eliminated,
then it would have the same inventory whether or not there was a part count printed
on the box.
I'm just extending what we are being told is the sole intent of the inventories
on Bricklink - to document the contents of the box so that sellers can more efficiently
part them out. I don't agree this should be the sole intent, but it is what
it is. That being the case, why is there a need to build up ever-more complicated
policies which introduce apparent inconsistencies and rely on the whim of Lego
continuing a practice it has already shown it is willing to change?
|
You sure do like to flog a life-challenged equine. The set inventory will stand
as is. That is the final decision of the entire admin team.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
No, this example does not invalidate what I am saying. It demonstrates how the
rule applied here, if applied consistently, could lead to inconsistencies in
the inventories. It gives you "accurate" results in this case, but this is only
one case. Had this set only been produced in Europe and had no part count on
the box, it would lead to a different inventory - IF the rule was consistently
applied.
On the other hand, if the extra part designation were eliminated completely,
and the foolish reliance on the imaginary "official" part count was also eliminated,
then it would have the same inventory whether or not there was a part count printed
on the box.
I'm just extending what we are being told is the sole intent of the inventories
on Bricklink - to document the contents of the box so that sellers can more efficiently
part them out. I don't agree this should be the sole intent, but it is what
it is. That being the case, why is there a need to build up ever-more complicated
policies which introduce apparent inconsistencies and rely on the whim of Lego
continuing a practice it has already shown it is willing to change?
|
|
| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 12:25 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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|
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| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The foolish policy to which I refer is the one that uses the "official parts
count" as the primary guide for what goes in the regular section when there is
no part list.
|
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models
plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official
parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the
packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section.
Where does it say anything about the official parts count being the primary guide?
It is listed first because it is the easiest and most useful thing to check.
There are cases where the instructions have the final say, e.g. in a situation
where the instructions call for a greater number of parts than the official parts
count.
| | That policy does not serve sellers who want to part out sets, because
there is no consistent way Lego has counted parts in the past, and part counts
are not included on all sets now.
|
LEGO part counts are exceptionally reliable. There are a few cases where things
don't line up, but for 99.9% of the cases they are spot on. We know that
some sets don't have them, but that is nothing new. Sets produced for the
European market in the 1970's never had them.
| | That policy is not spelled out anywhere in the help pages. It is listed among
the possible sources in the absence of a part list, but it is not explained that
it is considered more important than the instructions.
|
It is spelled out as much as it needs to be. Any further details about how part
lists were counted slightly differently over the years or limitations of their
usefulness are matters of discussion among collectors. Please read these as examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1027168
https://www.bricklink.com/aboutMe.asp?u=viejos&pageID=16500
We're not going to put that level of detail in the Help Pages. Our Inv Admins
have access to this kind of information to help them make informed decisions,
but it's too much for the general BrickLink public.
| | This case illustrates the foolishness of this policy. The criterion for including
these leftover parts in the regular section - and thereby including them in any
part-out and in requiring them to be present to sell the set as "complete" -
is a number printed on the package. If this set had been released just in Europe
with no part count on the box, those parts would be extras, could be excluded
from a part-out, and would not be required in a "complete" set.
|
Maybe, but probably not. We have other ways to determine what parts should be
considered regular, and one of them is related sets.
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
The parts count is just one tool out of many that we use. It is not used to remove
actual contents from a set, or to add things that were never there. BrickLink's
standard is a sealed set, and that's where we start from when building an
inventory.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
This set consistently had 234 parts that were included inside the box regardless
of where the set was produced and what was printed on the outside of the box
since it was just an amalgam of three other sets that had been repackaged. Therefore,
your argument is moot, and the inventory will stand as is.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 10:01 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | | | If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
As this set demonstrates, the designation of "extra" items is essentially meaningless,
since the policy now is to document the contents of the box and not the parts
needed to build the models. The simplest thing to do to avoid confusion and the
appearance of inconsistency is to eliminate the extra parts designation entirely.
Of course that might mean apparent conflicts with what you are calling "official"
part counts, but you can't have it both ways. It appears that items are just
being moved from extra to regular or vice versa simply to make the BL inventory
count match the number that sometimes appears on some boxes in some parts of
the world.
|
| | That is a foolish policy because history has shown us that Lego has changed how
they count parts in the past. If they do it again in the future, we will be faced
with a dilemma.
The previous method of designating extra parts was unique to BL and would still
work no matter what Lego did. That method has been abandoned, and it was a shortsighted
mistake.
|
These policies are grounded in a thorough and correct understanding of LEGO history
in addition to the practical considerations of running a site that sells parts.
When you examine the change log of this inventory, you will see that as far as
extra parts goes, it has remained exactly the same as it was on the day it was
approved in July 2005. That was 14 years ago. Meaning that the extras policy
the admins are defending today is the same one used to create this inventory
all those years ago.
There was no “previous method”. There were some people who (after Dan passed
away) tried to change the way things were done, and for a short while it may
have seemed like there was some sort of new policy. But there was simply no easy
way to change everything the site had done up until that point to accommodate
a new way of defining extra pieces, so this idea of a new extras policy was confined
to a small subset of parts and an even smaller subset of sets that happened to
get inventoried at that time.
BrickLink has always preferred to document the contents of the box vs the parts
necessary to build the set. This is because BrickLink was from the a beginning
a site primarily designed to sell parts, and the inventory system was designed
primarily to part out sets. Sellers parting out sets don’t necessarily care whether
or not parts are used in the instructions. They want a list of parts that they
can upload efficiently to their store inventory and sell.
Initially there was no Extras section, and everything was placed in the regular
section. There is reams of evidence in the change logs to prove this. The Extras
section was designed to handle parts with variable presence so that sellers could
either exclude them categorically or treat them with special care during the
partout process. Parts that invariably came in a set were deemed regular parts.
Those that may or may not have been included were called extras.
Fast forward to several years ago when I was grappling with the task of more
firmly defining the rules for inventories (mainly so that conversations like
this wouldn’t have to take place). The site needed a standard to align itself
with, and it needed to be one that both sellers and collectors could live with.
A very small adjustment consisting of some rubber band holders and a few stacking
pins was all that was necessary to align the traditional partout-focused policy
with the historical practices of the LEGO Group.
So that’s where we are today, and it doesn’t seem shortsighted at all, at least
to me. I actually tried to envision what an instructions-based policy would look
like and where it would lead us. But we’ve got so many sets where there are no
instructions or the instructions only use a certain percentage of the pieces.
And when something is listed in a published parts list, it’s really not in the
site’s best interests to encourage sellers to leave those parts out of what is
considered a “complete” set. It’s just asking for problems.
|
The foolish policy to which I refer is the one that uses the "official parts
count" as the primary guide for what goes in the regular section when there is
no part list. That policy does not serve sellers who want to part out sets, because
there is no consistent way Lego has counted parts in the past, and part counts
are not included on all sets now.
That policy is not spelled out anywhere in the help pages. It is listed among
the possible sources in the absence of a part list, but it is not explained that
it is considered more important than the instructions.
This case illustrates the foolishness of this policy. The criterion for including
these leftover parts in the regular section - and thereby including them in any
part-out and in requiring them to be present to sell the set as "complete" -
is a number printed on the package. If this set had been released just in Europe
with no part count on the box, those parts would be extras, could be excluded
from a part-out, and would not be required in a "complete" set.
If you want to base the inventories on the consistent contents of the box, that
makes sense from a part-out viewpoint. But this policy does not guarantee that
will happen. It is determining what goes "inside" the box based on what's
printed on the outside of the box, and not what is actually included.
|
|
| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jul 4, 2019 03:00 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | | | If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
As this set demonstrates, the designation of "extra" items is essentially meaningless,
since the policy now is to document the contents of the box and not the parts
needed to build the models. The simplest thing to do to avoid confusion and the
appearance of inconsistency is to eliminate the extra parts designation entirely.
Of course that might mean apparent conflicts with what you are calling "official"
part counts, but you can't have it both ways. It appears that items are just
being moved from extra to regular or vice versa simply to make the BL inventory
count match the number that sometimes appears on some boxes in some parts of
the world.
|
| | That is a foolish policy because history has shown us that Lego has changed how
they count parts in the past. If they do it again in the future, we will be faced
with a dilemma.
The previous method of designating extra parts was unique to BL and would still
work no matter what Lego did. That method has been abandoned, and it was a shortsighted
mistake.
|
These policies are grounded in a thorough and correct understanding of LEGO history
in addition to the practical considerations of running a site that sells parts.
When you examine the change log of this inventory, you will see that as far as
extra parts goes, it has remained exactly the same as it was on the day it was
approved in July 2005. That was 14 years ago. Meaning that the extras policy
the admins are defending today is the same one used to create this inventory
all those years ago.
There was no “previous method”. There were some people who (after Dan passed
away) tried to change the way things were done, and for a short while it may
have seemed like there was some sort of new policy. But there was simply no easy
way to change everything the site had done up until that point to accommodate
a new way of defining extra pieces, so this idea of a new extras policy was confined
to a small subset of parts and an even smaller subset of sets that happened to
get inventoried at that time.
BrickLink has always preferred to document the contents of the box vs the parts
necessary to build the set. This is because BrickLink was from the a beginning
a site primarily designed to sell parts, and the inventory system was designed
primarily to part out sets. Sellers parting out sets don’t necessarily care whether
or not parts are used in the instructions. They want a list of parts that they
can upload efficiently to their store inventory and sell.
Initially there was no Extras section, and everything was placed in the regular
section. There is reams of evidence in the change logs to prove this. The Extras
section was designed to handle parts with variable presence so that sellers could
either exclude them categorically or treat them with special care during the
partout process. Parts that invariably came in a set were deemed regular parts.
Those that may or may not have been included were called extras.
Fast forward to several years ago when I was grappling with the task of more
firmly defining the rules for inventories (mainly so that conversations like
this wouldn’t have to take place). The site needed a standard to align itself
with, and it needed to be one that both sellers and collectors could live with.
A very small adjustment consisting of some rubber band holders and a few stacking
pins was all that was necessary to align the traditional partout-focused policy
with the historical practices of the LEGO Group.
So that’s where we are today, and it doesn’t seem shortsighted at all, at least
to me. I actually tried to envision what an instructions-based policy would look
like and where it would lead us. But we’ve got so many sets where there are no
instructions or the instructions only use a certain percentage of the pieces.
And when something is listed in a published parts list, it’s really not in the
site’s best interests to encourage sellers to leave those parts out of what is
considered a “complete” set. It’s just asking for problems.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 22:18 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
It is explained right there in the text above. This policy has also been applied
consistently since it was rewritten and agreed upon by the admin team. All inventories
are being adjusted towards it as change requests for inventories come in. The
admins have also taken it upon themselves to adjust inventories as we have time.
Lastly, we have quite a few people that are helping to adjust inventories and
we thank them very much for their contributions. You know who you are.
|
I disagree that it is spelled out. In this instance there is no parts list, but
there are instructions and there is a part count. Those two sources of information
conflict. It is not spelled out in the policy that in this instance the part
count is what prevails. It may be written down in your own procedures but it
is not at all clear in the public information.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 22:13 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
As this set demonstrates, the designation of "extra" items is essentially meaningless,
since the policy now is to document the contents of the box and not the parts
needed to build the models. The simplest thing to do to avoid confusion and the
appearance of inconsistency is to eliminate the extra parts designation entirely.
Of course that might mean apparent conflicts with what you are calling "official"
part counts, but you can't have it both ways. It appears that items are just
being moved from extra to regular or vice versa simply to make the BL inventory
count match the number that sometimes appears on some boxes in some parts of
the world.
That is a foolish policy because history has shown us that Lego has changed how
they count parts in the past. If they do it again in the future, we will be faced
with a dilemma.
The previous method of designating extra parts was unique to BL and would still
work no matter what Lego did. That method has been abandoned, and it was a shortsighted
mistake.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 22:01 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
It is explained right there in the text above. This policy has also been applied
consistently since it was rewritten and agreed upon by the admin team. All inventories
are being adjusted towards it as change requests for inventories come in. The
admins have also taken it upon themselves to adjust inventories as we have time.
Lastly, we have quite a few people that are helping to adjust inventories and
we thank them very much for their contributions. You know who you are.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:37 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
If there is nothing that can be done to stop this misguided inventory policy,
it would at least be useful to have it explained in the help pages. I hear a
lot of lip service being paid to consistency, but these policies are still opaque
and arcane to anyone trying to understand them from what is written, and as such
their application appears very inconsistent.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:25 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
Yes.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:23 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
OK, so the parts count trumps the instructions in determining a regular part?
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:18 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Regular Items - Parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models plus any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of
an official parts list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images
on the packaging are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of
this section.
|
|
| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 21:11 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
The rules that define regular and extra parts do not mention the "official" part
count in the criteria. Why is an exception made for this set? Those leftover
parts should be extra parts. They are not in the build and there is no parts
list for this set in the instructions or box.
Parts counts primarily only appear on North American sets. They are not determined
in a consistent way by Lego.
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2019 20:09 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
Hey Paul -
I am now back and have access to writing on an actual keyboard instead of my
phone! Fortunately for me, Fred already laid out exactly why the inventory is
the way it is.
As he stated, this set was a repackaging of three earlier kits and some of the
parts were not used in the build for the repackaged set. However, the official
part count on this set included all of the parts from the original three kits
and were included in every set. Because of this, they are treated as Regular
Items. I will go ahead and add an inventory note to this set.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2019 16:18 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | […]
I am still on holiday, but please do not change this inventory until we discuss
it. There is a simple reason the inventory is the way it is.
|
“… but there’s not enough room in the margins.”
|
Even in that case, finally Wiles found a notebook having enough room in its margins
to provide a complete proof that fascinated people. for this case, don't
worry
|
But it took almost 200 years between Galois and Wiles!
| | | | Argh, what a killing suspense!
|
|
|
|
| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2019 15:57 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | […]
I am still on holiday, but please do not change this inventory until we discuss
it. There is a simple reason the inventory is the way it is.
|
“… but there’s not enough room in the margins.”
|
Even in that case, finally Wiles found a notebook having enough room in its margins
to provide a complete proof that fascinated people. for this case, don't
worry
| |
Argh, what a killing suspense!
|
|
|
| Author: | Sango85 | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2019 10:16 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
OK, thanks for the explanation, and sorry for the "troubles"... I just wanted
to notice a possible issue, which is not an issue anyway.
Julien
|
|
| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 23:47 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
Thanks for the explanation. This could probably use an inventory note to explain
the reason for these extra parts. But I'll leave that until Randy is back
from holiday because he seems to be a bit more familiar with this set than I
am.
|
|
| Author: | FreeStorm | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 17:54 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
To confirm the inventory, you can find an unboxing there:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=168313
If I remember correctly, the reason for "extra" parts is because the set
is the same as which is composed of
Some black parts are sort of 'extra' (from 3745-1) because this set is
used to build other locomotives
For example:
-Fred
|
|
| Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 16:01 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | […]
I am still on holiday, but please do not change this inventory until we discuss
it. There is a simple reason the inventory is the way it is.
|
“… but there’s not enough room in the margins.”
Argh, what a killing suspense!
|
OK, I'll laugh at a Fermat joke, especially one coming from one of his own
countrymen
|
|
| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 15:18 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | […]
I am still on holiday, but please do not change this inventory until we discuss
it. There is a simple reason the inventory is the way it is.
|
“… but there’s not enough room in the margins.”
Argh, what a killing suspense!
|
|
| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 14:53 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, tEoS writes:
| | Unless there was some change to this model via a supplement instruction sheet,
some of the parts in the inventory don't even belong there:
Panel 1x2x3
Slope inv. 75 2x1x3
I also don't see the black tile 1x4 in the build
|
I did a quick look through the instructions and you are correct that those parts
don't appear anywhere in the instructions that I found on Brickset. So either
the current inventory is wrong or there are multiple versions of the instructions
for this set.
|
I am still on holiday, but please do not change this inventory until we discuss
it. There is a simple reason the inventory is the way it is.
Cheers,
Randy
|
|
| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, tEoS writes:
| | Unless there was some change to this model via a supplement instruction sheet,
some of the parts in the inventory don't even belong there:
Panel 1x2x3
Slope inv. 75 2x1x3
I also don't see the black tile 1x4 in the build
|
I did a quick look through the instructions and you are correct that those parts
don't appear anywhere in the instructions that I found on Brickset. So either
the current inventory is wrong or there are multiple versions of the instructions
for this set.
|
|
| Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| Unless there was some change to this model via a supplement instruction sheet,
some of the parts in the inventory don't even belong there:
Panel 1x2x3
Slope inv. 75 2x1x3
I also don't see the black tile 1x4 in the build
|
|
| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Sango85 writes:
| | Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
You might want to try explaining exactly what the 'differences' are.
Your list is not descriptive enough. If you are confident of your corrections,
you should file a change request for the inventory here:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogAdd.asp?utm_content=subnav
Good luck,
Jen
|
|
| Author: | Sango85 | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2019 04:53 | | Subject: | 10205 : Parts to be removed from Inventory | | Viewed: | 122 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hello,
I check my locomotive 10205 with Bricklink Inventory and I found differences...
I bought a new loco, and found the same differences...
I think there are errors into the Bricklink Inventory.
Please find the list of the issues.
Best regards,
Julien
|
|
| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2019 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: Toy Story Duplo 10894 parts not in inventory | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, BEEKUZZ writes:
| | We need the Toy Story Train 10894 inventoried so we can part out. How is this
done? Can I do it myself?
|
Yes so long as it is not already reserved. Use the links here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=38
|
| Author: | BEEKUZZ | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2019 14:31 | | Subject: | Toy Story Duplo 10894 parts not in inventory | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| We need the Toy Story Train 10894 inventoried so we can part out. How is this
done? Can I do it myself?
|
| Author: | estaswick | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2019 15:22 | | Subject: | Rebrickable for minifigs | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| A while back (a year or two) someone posted a link to software that would look
at your inventory of figure parts and tell you what official minifigs you could
make. I didn't save the link and am wishing I had it now. Any help?
|
| Author: | The_Brick_Freak | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2019 02:24 | | Subject: | Re: Tutorial | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| Thank You So much RecycledBrick, sent me a PM and gave me a quick run down and
some confidence to give it a go
Thank You Again
|
|
| Author: | The_Brick_Freak | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2019 07:54 | | Subject: | Re: Tutorial | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Inventories, The_Brick_Freak writes:
| | Hey peoples! i would really like to be able to contribute by adding New set inventories
into bricklink but i am worried i will make a mistake.
Is their a tutorial on how to do it correctly with a run down on how everything
works? If so, please point me to the video or link. If not is this something
a more experienced person might be interested in doing to teach us?
Cheers
James
|
As start here are the Helppages:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=38
|
Yea i have read that article and it is somewhat helpful however i cant see where
it covers what to do if the part or minifig is new and not in the system. I have
seen some people put minifig parts and not whole minifigs into the inventory
and it doesnt really go into details about these sorts of things.
|
|
| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2019 07:43 | | Subject: | Re: Tutorial | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, The_Brick_Freak writes:
| | Hey peoples! i would really like to be able to contribute by adding New set inventories
into bricklink but i am worried i will make a mistake.
Is their a tutorial on how to do it correctly with a run down on how everything
works? If so, please point me to the video or link. If not is this something
a more experienced person might be interested in doing to teach us?
Cheers
James
|
As start here are the Helppages:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=38
|
|
| Author: | The_Brick_Freak | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2019 06:30 | | Subject: | Tutorial | | Viewed: | 115 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| Hey peoples! i would really like to be able to contribute by adding New set inventories
into bricklink but i am worried i will make a mistake.
Is their a tutorial on how to do it correctly with a run down on how everything
works? If so, please point me to the video or link. If not is this something
a more experienced person might be interested in doing to teach us?
Cheers
James
|
|
| Author: | Pippysblocks | | Posted: | Jun 22, 2019 09:37 | | Subject: | Re: Added 10,000 Parts using my iPHONE YIKES! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| I saw your vid adding all those parts on an iPhone, I thought your brave, I'm
a bit fiddly on the phone and would worry about pressing the wrong thing lol.
Great addition of parts.
In Inventories, POPS_BLOCK_SHOP writes:
| | This is by far the biggest addition to our bricklink store and I made a Video
Diary about it! If you have 5 minutes I hope you find it helpful and entertaining!
https://youtu.be/oKEMbC75KWA
|
|
|
| Author: | POPS_BLOCK_SHOP | | Posted: | Jun 22, 2019 08:00 | | Subject: | Added 10,000 Parts using my iPHONE YIKES! | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| This is by far the biggest addition to our bricklink store and I made a Video
Diary about it! If you have 5 minutes I hope you find it helpful and entertaining!
https://youtu.be/oKEMbC75KWA
|
| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2019 13:22 | | Subject: | Re: search my inventory | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
|
| In Inventories, Rickaroo72 writes:
| | I don't have a public store. But, is there a way that I can upload parts
into my store and then use that in order to search my inventory for my want list
items?
|
You can search using the checkbox 'items on Wantlist' in the search options
on the right by of the My inventory page.
|
| Author: | Rickaroo72 | | Posted: | Jun 21, 2019 12:58 | | Subject: | search my inventory | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
|
| I don't have a public store. But, is there a way that I can upload parts
into my store and then use that in order to search my inventory for my want list
items?
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