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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 30, 2019 10:22
 Subject: Re: Appoint a new administrator
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In General, tpr writes:
  Hi

I know a lot of work goes on behind the scenes with volunteer administrators
who do a damn good job with the catalogue and inventories.

Is it about time Bricklink appointed an (or more) administrator (s) to oversee
the selling side of Bricklink.

Bricklink would not exists without its revenue from sellers putting in time and
effort to sell and pay fees to Bricklink.

Surely it is only fair to sellers and buyers that items for sale conform to the
rules. If items are being mis-represented they should be removed or sellers given
the opportunity to amend their listing.

It would be nice if Bricklink appointed people to oversee the selling side of
the business. Sellers may then start conforming with their listings

tpr

I think also there should be sanctions where this appears to be deliberate. If
you make a mistake (such as listing new when it has been used) and it is reported
and BL agrees, then it's fine and you should learn from it. If you make that
same mistake again (say within six months or a year), then you get a week's
ban from selling. If you do it again after that, it's a month ban.

Maybe with different limits for bigger stores / higher turnover stores.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 30, 2019 10:16
 Subject: Re: Hair pulling - item for sale .........
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In Catalog, tpr writes:
  Hi


Ever bought a new set, SEALED, but with No Minifig

check out the cheapest new set for sale

 
Set No: 75224  Name: Sith Infiltrator Microfighter
* 
75224-1 (Inv) Sith Infiltrator Microfighter
88 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2019
Sets: Star Wars: Microfighters Series 6: Star Wars Episode 1

Surely this has to stop


tpr

Try this search:

https://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?viewFrom=sa&itemBrand=1000&invNew=N&itemType=S&q=%22Built+once%22&searchComments=Y&searchSort=B&sz=500

There are quite a few "new" sets that have been "built once" on here. It seems
admins are busy doing other things instead of removing these when they are reported.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 15, 2019 07:15
 Subject: Re: collectable minifigures leaflets
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  That is not true for series 1 up to 15 where all leaflets had a unique numbering,
also most series at least up to series 13 (if not all) had a unique code on them
to unlock the characters on the website https://www.playminifigures.com/ (is
no longer active, was closed at the end of 2016).

What do you mean by unique numbering?

Do you mean the 122091-1, 2, 3 codes?

I've just looked at 27 Series 8 leaflets, all have 122091-1 or 122091-2,
and I have not seen any other numbers after the dash. The exact same number is
on other series leaflets too. For Series 10 I have a 122091-3. I don't think
these numbers were unique to individual sets within a series.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2019 09:26
 Subject: Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02
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   You just said it has two arms, but it doesn't unless you are counting the
unattached robot arm and claw.

 
Part No: 981  Name: Arm, Left
* 
981 Arm, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

 
Part No: 62691  Name: Arm Mechanical
* 
62691 Arm Mechanical
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

I make that two arms.

  The catalog picture for a minifigure shows the
minifigure assembled. Most catalog pictures for sets show the set assembled.
But your customers are not expecting you to take what Lego supplied and assemble
it for them like the picture.

I agree. Most customers buying new parts expect me to take the new parts as supplied
by LEGO and send those. They do not expect me to assemble them. But I cannot
sell the parts that LEGO supplied here, I have to sell either a combination of
them or pull them apart. There is no option to sell it as it was originally supplied.

It is the inconsistency that is a problem. Going back to the sprues, LEGO did
not intend them to be used according to the pictures of the sets. But BL catalogues
these parts as coming on a sprue. They are listed as coming that way in the set,
whether or not all the parts are needed. There is an option to sell the parts
connected to a sprue (or in a bag) as supplied or sell the parts individually.
Whereas here, they are not listed as they come in the set. There is no option
to sell the parts as supplied.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2019 09:03
 Subject: Re: What sets could I build from my inventory
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In Inventories, szellandor writes:
  Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets

https://rebrickable.com/
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2019 08:44
 Subject: Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.

Do you really want to sell a torso with 1 arm? Is there is a market for that?


It is what lego supplied. It has two arms, just no robot arm / claw extension.
I don't know if there is a market for it, as it cannot be sold that way.

And there are plenty of listings for torsos without arms, whether there is a
market for them or not. They all get catalogued even though this is not how lego
supply them. Yet these pieces don't get listed as they are supplied - but
do get catalogued if you either add another part or remove some parts.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2019 06:56
 Subject: Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  Precedence.

All of the other torsos that use
 
Part No: 62691  Name: Arm Mechanical
* 
62691 Arm Mechanical
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
are handled the same way.


OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?

If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.

Please don't assemble ANY of the minifig parts if you are selling it to me.
Why would this imply that anyone wanted you to do that?

Because at Bricklink you cannot sell the torso assembly as it is supplied by
LEGO. There is not a catalogue entry for the torso, arm and hand and robot arm
without the claw, as supplied by LEGO. To match the catalogue entry, you need
to add the robot arm.

It implies you have to either add the arm to the torso, or bag them separately
to keep them together, or store them unattached but need to remember to add the
robot arm, and hope the buyer finds the robot arm before complaining that it
is missing the arm.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2019 05:28
 Subject: Re: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02
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  Precedence.

All of the other torsos that use
 
Part No: 62691  Name: Arm Mechanical
* 
62691 Arm Mechanical
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
are handled the same way.


OK, so it's historical. Will this ever be changed to reflect what is actually
received in a set rather than what is needed for a set, like the debate about
the sprued parts now being the whole sprue rather than the required parts only?

If parting these out it is necessary to assemble them, and I don't want to
assemble them if they later become the individual parts.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2019 04:48
 Subject: Benny's torso 973pb1652c02
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This part is listed as

 
Part No: 973pb1652c02  Name: Torso Space Classic Moon with Simulated Wear Pattern / Blue Arm Left / Blue Hand Left / Pearl Dark Gray Mechanical Arm Right / Black Claw Right
* 
973pb1652c02 (Inv) Torso Space Classic Moon with Simulated Wear Pattern / Blue Arm Left / Blue Hand Left / Pearl Dark Gray Mechanical Arm Right / Black Claw Right
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

I have opened seven of the CMF versions and they do not come like this in the
set. The torso comes without the robot arm attached. Is there are reason having
only the assembly in the inventory, and not having it how it actually comes in
the CMF set?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 4, 2019 07:04
 Subject: Brand filters (again!)
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The AFOL sets are not real LEGO sets, right?

Have they been catalogued incorrectly or are the filters not working correctly?
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 30, 2019 08:43
 Subject: Re: Connecting to Royal Mail
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In Suggestions, NorthJ90 writes:
  It would be so much easier if BrickLink could connect to Royal Mail and download
orders like you can on eBay. I’d be happy to pay a little more on fees to accommodate
it.


I wouldn't pay higher fees for this, so voted no.

Also, there are not that many active UK stores. For BL to implement this for
such a small number of sellers is unlikely.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 27, 2019 14:38
 Subject: Re: Toy Story Duplo 10894 parts not in inventory
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In Inventories, BEEKUZZ writes:
  We need the Toy Story Train 10894 inventoried so we can part out. How is this
done? Can I do it myself?

Yes so long as it is not already reserved. Use the links here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=38
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 21, 2019 04:58
 Subject: Re: col08-14 ACTOR
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
 
Set No: col08  Name: Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 
col08-14 (Inv) Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
2 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 8 Minifigures

Is there a reason this keeps getting changed?

I have no idea. last name change was done by Robert
(Nov 7, 2018 by StormChaser) and this change isn't in the log
So ask him ...if you have contact with him.
I really have no knowledge about it.

  
This set was originally listed as Actor, it was then changed to Thespian. I asked
for the Actor name to be reinstated, which it was, and then it was removed again.

for other to see it history
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?itemID=111573


  
The minifigure version has both names:
 
Minifig No: col126  Name: Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 
col126 (Inv) Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 8 Minifigures

Why can the set not keep both names?

Have no idea.

  
And on their webpages, LEGO refer to it as ACTOR. If it can have only one name,
then surely it should be the LEGO one.

https://www.lego.com/en-gb/themes/minifigures/products/lego-minifigures-8833

I'd suggest it again, but seeing as I have done it once and it got done and
then changed back again later I don't see the point of going round in circles.

It should really drop the "The" as well - we don't have The Butcher, The
Plumber, etc.

So I've change it to be the same as minifig entry, but you know in the future
a new admin can change it back again


Thanks, hopefully the dual name will stay. I know people use both.

Thanks also for correcting the spelling of ANTON'S tile.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 20, 2019 15:25
 Subject: Re: col08-14 ACTOR
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
 
Set No: col08  Name: Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 
col08-14 (Inv) Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
2 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 8 Minifigures

Is there a reason this keeps getting changed?

I have no idea. last name change was done by Robert
(Nov 7, 2018 by StormChaser) and this change isn't in the log
So ask him ...if you have contact with him.
I really have no knowledge about it.

  
This set was originally listed as Actor, it was then changed to Thespian. I asked
for the Actor name to be reinstated, which it was, and then it was removed again.

for other to see it history
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?itemID=111573


  
The minifigure version has both names:
 
Minifig No: col126  Name: Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 
col126 (Inv) Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 8 Minifigures

Why can the set not keep both names?

Have no idea.

  
And on their webpages, LEGO refer to it as ACTOR. If it can have only one name,
then surely it should be the LEGO one.

https://www.lego.com/en-gb/themes/minifigures/products/lego-minifigures-8833

I'd suggest it again, but seeing as I have done it once and it got done and
then changed back again later I don't see the point of going round in circles.

It should really drop the "The" as well - we don't have The Butcher, The
Plumber, etc.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 20, 2019 14:52
 Subject: col08-14 ACTOR
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Set No: col08  Name: Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 
col08-14 (Inv) Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
2 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 8 Minifigures

Is there a reason this keeps getting changed?

This set was originally listed as Actor, it was then changed to Thespian. I asked
for the Actor name to be reinstated, which it was, and then it was removed again.

The minifigure version has both names:
 
Minifig No: col126  Name: Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 
col126 (Inv) Thespian / Actor, Series 8 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 8 Minifigures

Why can the set not keep both names?

And on their webpages, LEGO refer to it as ACTOR. If it can have only one name,
then surely it should be the LEGO one.

https://www.lego.com/en-gb/themes/minifigures/products/lego-minifigures-8833
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 18, 2019 04:19
 Subject: Re: New part that doesn't exist without printing
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  There's a new part I want to add to the catalog, and so far it only exists
with a printing on it. Is the proper procedure to add a sort of "placeholder"
entry for the actual new mold/part that has no printing, and then add the new
printed part that I have? I will upload a photo of the printed version I have,
but of course, cannot for the base part.

Thanks,
David

I believe you can only submit the printed part, as that is what exists.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 12, 2019 04:06
 Subject: Re: Have all members pay BL $1 to buy and/or sell
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   "Let's trap all buyers inside of this mall so they don't go out without buying our products"

That's a good idea. How about membership fees of $1000 per year. But that
allows you to get $1000 of credit towards any BL orders you place in that year.
For large buyers it will make no difference. For small buyers, it will encourage
them to spend more.*



* Or not join at all.

 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 1, 2019 12:33
 Subject: Re: Option to Donate to reach min. buy
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In Suggestions, Brickochet writes:
  In Suggestions, nectara writes:
  In Suggestions, Brickochet writes:
  This is a fairly bad marketing idea for shops that probably don't work out
in the shops favour. I know a majority of my browsing has ended up in me taking
my business and money to another shop. Where I am either buying from someone
without a min buy, or selecting other items I actually want to hit that minimum
purchase amount. So my suggestion is to add a donation field/possibility to finish
passing the required purchase line.

I have only made 3 purchases since I joined but these 3 people are profiting
by shop deterrence over the min buy. One of which was a difference of 3 cents
to the min buy vs. paying 1 cent more for the same thing because it didn't
have one.



If a few cents deter you to buy then maybe Lego hobby it's too expensive
for you.
Regards
Nectara

spending a few extra cents doesn't deter me; being a few extra cents away
from min purchase amount and not being able to find something else I desire to
reach that min buy amount however does.

For example:

if I am after certain minifigs

shop a) has fig 1 for 1.99, and fig 2 for 2.99 that I am after - with a min buy
of 5.00 I am at 4.98. 2 cents away

shop b) will have the same one for 2.00 but no min buy - so I purchase that one
(shop a misses out)

shop c) will have fig. 2 for 6.00 and a min buy of 5.00 - and I'll pay the
extra $3 for that one - because it passes the min buy margin.

It's not that I'm paying more that's the issue - it's more so
that shop a, is missing out on business because of literally 2 cents (or even
$2) that I would be more than willing to donate just so save a 5 or 10 minutes.

so now shop a misses out on a possible profit due to selectivity and lack of
a difference feature

So you will overpay by $3 and also pay two lots of shipping, which is probably
another $2 minimum. In this example, was there really nothing else under $5 that
you could have added, getting you a cheaper overall price plus a free item?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jun 1, 2019 04:06
 Subject: Re: Option to Donate to reach min. buy
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In Suggestions, Brickochet writes:
  This is a fairly bad marketing idea for shops that probably don't work out
in the shops favour. I know a majority of my browsing has ended up in me taking
my business and money to another shop. Where I am either buying from someone
without a min buy, or selecting other items I actually want to hit that minimum
purchase amount. So my suggestion is to add a donation field/possibility to finish
passing the required purchase line.

I have only made 3 purchases since I joined but these 3 people are profiting
by shop deterrence over the min buy. One of which was a difference of 3 cents
to the min buy vs. paying 1 cent more for the same thing because it didn't
have one.

Can't you just buy some extra parts you are likely to need in future?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 22, 2019 06:12
 Subject: Re: which is the correct listing?
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   Which is why my part didn't show up properly, most
people are listed as
 
Set No: 630  Name: Brick Separator, Orange
* 
630-3 (Inv) Brick Separator, Orange
1 Part, 2012
Sets: Service Packs

whereas really they should be

 
Part No: 96874  Name: Brick and Axle Separator
* 
96874 Brick and Axle Separator
Parts: Human Tool


There are 87 of the "set", whereas there are 4294 listings for the part. So most
people have listed them as the single part. The sealed ones listed as sets are
likely to be correct, as are the used ones listed as sets as they do not need
to contain the packaging (although the listing should say that).

If you have plenty of a single part set (or single minifigure set), it is often
a good idea to list some as the part (or minifigure) and some as the set, as
different buys will search for different things.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 21, 2019 04:50
 Subject: Re: Brittle Blue
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened a brand new
 
Set No: 5955  Name: All Terrain Trapper
* 
5955-1 (Inv) All Terrain Trapper
176 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2000
Sets: Adventurers: Dino Island
and when I started to build it, the first few
[p=3062b]
in blue that I put on the build cracked almost immediately with an audible sound.
I had never seen or heard anything like this before in any LEGO that I owned,
so I stopped building right away.

When I looked at the parts, I noticed right away that the color of them looked
off. I then remembered that people here in the forums had talked about a "Brittle
Blue". Sure enough, these parts seem to match the typical color that I have found
in the forums for this "Brittle Blue".

After that, I looked through all of the blue parts in the set and noticed almost
all of them have this same off color of blue. I am afraid to try building with
any of the other parts so as not to crack them. It looks like the only blue parts
in the set that are not "Brittle Blue" are the cup, steering wheel stand and
the modified bricks.

Since some people seem to collect pieces in this "color", I was wondering if
anyone in the forums would be interested in some absolutely brand new "Brittle
Blue" pieces that have never been used in any way. If you are interested, let
me know.

Cheers,
Randy

That is really bad, it must be disappointing for that to happen when opening
a new set.

Can you guarantee they will break on first use?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 20, 2019 06:22
 Subject: Re: Protest of 3830c01 marked for deletion
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In Catalog, Cob writes:
  In protest of 3830c01 being marked for deletion I am not going to sell either
3830 or 3831 on BrickLink.

I sell used bricks, nearly all of these come to me as a complete hinge, in order
to sell them I must either sell them as a pair or manually separate them and
then list them separately.

 
Part No: 3830c01  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
* 
3830c01 Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
Parts: Hinge
Marked for Deletion

I still don't understand why they were marked for deletion. There only single
colors in the catalog, no crossed colors, no decorated items. Nothing but plain
single colors.

I will sell them on other well known sites.

Cob

While this piece is being discussed, I have always found the name odd. It only
looks like a 1x4 hinge brick when it is paired together. Therefore if it is not
paired, then the parts are not a 1x4 brick. They look like 1x2 bricks with a
bit of modification.

LEGO refers to the individual pieces as a "hinge 1x2 upper part" or "lower part".
Which makes more sense when you are searching for it.

And in terms of setting a precedent:

 
Part No: 3937c01  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with (Same Color) Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c01 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with (Same Color) Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3937c02  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Black Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c02 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Black Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3937c03  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Blue Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c03 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Blue Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3937c04  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Brown Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c04 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Brown Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3937c05  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Dark Bluish Gray Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c05 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Dark Bluish Gray Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3937c06  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Dark Pink Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c06 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Dark Pink Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3937c07  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Green Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c07 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Green Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 14, 2019 05:17
 Subject: Re: Fair, safe and legal trading = BL principles
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  Well, yes, you are right. The seller has to cancel when requested but is entitled
to taking any measures they like. Especially since this Bricklink world is slightly
different from regular online retail as a lot of labour goes into getting an
order together.
Maybe the "without penalty" part wasn't phrased to well. At least I would
like the language to change. Because right now some sellers write things in their
terms like "I don't accept cancellation requests" or "orders are legally
binding contracts" or stuff like that. I think there's an important distinction
between discouraging it / considering it rude or something like that on the one
hand, and making buyers believe they have no actual choice but to pay up on the
other hand. The latter is basically misinformation about the rights that consumers
have. I think vulnerable/naive consumers should be protected by at least being
offered store terms that don't obscure their rights.


Yeah, I totally agree. This is sort of covered already in the terms, as sellers
must abide by their local laws, and writing contract terms that go against those
just mean the buyer is likely to win if they ever took the case to small claims
court or equivalent.

That said, the BL terms mention that orders are "legally binding contracts",
which probably needs cleaning up.

  
  
  - Being responsible for lost shipments - meaning full refund or resend if anything
goes missing

And no problem there, and this holds if the buyer pays with paypal anyway. Although
if BL start asking for proof of delivery routinely, this may change smaller orders
as sellers start charging for this.

I think Bricklink could do two things in all this: 1. Enforcing by being involved
with the actual transactions, which might be complicated and costly (although
that is not an excuse it is not needed - perhaps it is) and/or 2. Simply moderate
store terms ahead of any transactions a store may be involved in. That's
not too much manual work, and we live in an age where computers can recognize
actual people in photographs, so I'm pretty sure some algorithms can be put
together to spot illegal store term claims. Even with a simple search operation
it's easy to spot them.
I think the main problem has to do with stores having illegal terms more than
store having legal terms but not keeping to them. Once the store terms are sound,
buyers will be able to call out and spot bad sellers pretty easily whenever they
cause trouble that's not in line with their own terms.

Yeah, although there are probably ways around the machine learning checks for
terms. It might be better that BL has one set of terms that sellers must agree
to, standardised across all stores. Where necessary there could be country based
amendments (across all sellers in that country) due to local laws.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 13, 2019 06:03
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- Full acceptance of cancellation without penalty and without reason required


This issue has been around for years (as has the thread!). There is no legal
right to cancellation without penalty. The buyer has a right to cancel,
but that does not mean that they can order, then cancel. Order, then cancel.
And so on without penalty. If a buyer becomes a problem for a store (whether
on BL or elsewhere), the store is legally entitled to stop selling to them. It
is the same with feedback - feedback does not affect the right to cancellation.
Just because a buyer has a right to cancel, it does not take away the right a
seller has to leave feedback or file a NPB. Of course, if a buyer is responsive
and asks for a cancellation, then many decent sellers will allow cancellations
and they may be more lenient than if the buyer just doesn't pay. But if a
buyer orders then cancels, orders then cancels, orders then cancels, it wouldn't
surprise me if the buyer gets blocked from buying from that store.

  - Accepting returns and refunding the buyer including the postage cost and the
postage cost of sending it back

Again, legally they have this right (although may need to pay return postage
if this is detailed in the seller's terms). But that doesn't mean the
seller cannot block them to stop them doing it again in the future.

Large online retailers are starting to crack down on people buying items, especially
clothes, wearing them with the tags on, then returning them.

  
- Not charging more for transaction fees than the transactions actually cost


No problem there.

  And last but not least:

- Being responsible for lost shipments - meaning full refund or resend if anything
goes missing

And no problem there, and this holds if the buyer pays with paypal anyway. Although
if BL start asking for proof of delivery routinely, this may change smaller orders
as sellers start charging for this.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 10, 2019 13:54
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  This is great and all of that; as I don't support customs fraud, and so I
support this idea of yours! HOWEVER, the problem with buying internationally
(at least for a Canadian Buyer as myself) is that the sales taxes (GST, HST and/or
PST) *IN PARTICULAR* (it's much, MUCH more difficult to do it with customs
duty fees, but whatever...) aren't usually automatically levied and actually
shown/itemized on invoices for Bricklink orders from Sellers in foreign countries
like the U.S. when the net amount [price of LEGO goods, excluding shipping, handling
and insurance fees (if insurance is requested by the Buyer or is made mandatory
by the Seller)] is over $40, which is the *new* minimum amount in which GST,
HST, PST, etc. can be levied for importing goods via e-commerce. Therefore, this
creates an emotional headache for the Buyer when the mail person delivers the
parcel to the shipping address but asks for sales taxes plus the customs handling
fee payments *before* releasing the parcel to the Buyer (or to someone else on
the Buyer's behalf), as the buyer is often either in one of two situations
– one, he/she is not always home there when the parcel is attempted delivery;
or two, the buyer's own home address is different from the delivering-to
address (the latter one is the one that applies to me personally there), and
the person who is supposedly accepting the parcel on the Buyer's behalf refuses
to pay anything that is owning to various levels of government (sales taxes,
customs duties and/or customs handling fees) on the Buyer's behalf (to which
the Buyer will later pay back to whoever had to pay the various fees to the postal
worker UP FRONT on the Buyer's behalf) – which results the Buyer in needlessly
in having to go to the local post office to pick up the parcel and make "surprise"
payments for any sales taxes (as well as possible customs duty fees, in some
cases) plus the customs handling fee that are owning there.


I don't really see how any of this is different to other countries that charge
sales tax on imported goods over a threshold. If you buy over the threshold,
you get taxed. It is your job to know about this as an importer buyer, and there
should not be a surprise.

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