Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | yorbrick  | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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It would be nice if the catalog had the sophistication to have a metapart that
would collect listings of all three in a search if someone really didn't
care which.
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I guess it does in a way as you can search for "arch 1 x 6 x 2 -curved -pattern"
if you don't care which one you get, but it only really works for searches
and not wants lists. So yes having a metadata tag to link them would be good.
Same for a number of other parts with minor variations that may be inconsequential
for some people but important for others.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:42 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).
I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.
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but I finally was able to read this mold number 
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Cheater
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:36 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).
I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.
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but I finally was able to read this mold number
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:28 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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It would be nice if the catalog had the sophistication to have a metapart that
would collect listings of all three in a search if someone really didn't
care which.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:27 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).
I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 08:38 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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There is a reason for the multiple entries, and that reason is because LEGO made
three variations of that part with different purposes in mind for each one. Some
of the builds that use one variation of the arch cannot be built using either
of the other two.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 08:08 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
|
To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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| Author: | dearlydeparted | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 08:02 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 07:48 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
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Three variants. Don’t exaggerate, you’re showing them
* | | 3307 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thick Top with Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch |
* | | 15254 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Medium Thick Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch |
* | | 12939 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thin Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch |
| | | | I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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The thin / thick thing is described in the notes, and mm dimensions given. Personally,
the difference between the old and new style (with/without the reinforcement)
is enough, but I I can understand why the different variants are there.
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Yes, the variants are important:
1. You can fit some parts under the thin and medium thick parts that you can’t
fit under the thick one. E.g.
2. Collectors find it very important to get the right variant.
The odd part here would be the thin one: it was short lived (a year). Too fragile?
Too thin (it leaves a noticeable gap)?
Anyway, it’s here and came before the medium thick and was already in the catalogue
(2013) when the medium thick version was spotted / included in the catalogue
(2016).
There was no reason to merge thin and medium thick then and there’s no much reason
to do it now as we would still need to keep the old one.
Wouldn’t it be as confusing to have a “thick” version and “more or less thin”
one?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 06:34 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
|
The thin / thick thing is described in the notes, and mm dimensions given. Personally,
the difference between the old and new style (with/without the reinforcement)
is enough, but I I can understand why the different variants are there.
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| Author: | brikomania | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 06:29 | | Subject: | Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 331 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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| Author: | palenjo | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2019 16:27 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 341-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 445a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 4 Part 446a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
I only want to add 445a and 446a as alternative part. If you look at the instructions and the box it could very well be the door with thin handle. Since you don't have 445a and 446a as a part in any inventory list, I cannot find the item id. This would affect all sets with doors 3188, 3189, 3195, 3194, 445 and 446, to have the door with thin handle as alternative. Regards, Johan
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2019 01:14 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 20017-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 4085d Black Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 4 (thick open O clip) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black 4085b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip) {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set contents. I got one each of 4085b and 4085d.
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| Author: | weporter | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 18:44 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6842-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3040 White Slope 45 2 x 1 (Alternate) (match ID 3)
Comments from Submitter:
As per my recent submission re: 3943b, I also note that in my two sets the 45 2x1 slopes have bottom tubes (3040). Again, with the last known use of 3040a being 1981, and the earliest use of 3040 being 1977, it makes sense that later production runs of 6842 which had low attachment modified plates and axle hole cones would also have 3040.
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| Author: | OLarsen | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 16:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 5875-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4150pb071 White Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Tomato, Cheese and Cucumber Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 5875 / 5876 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
This set is the same as 5876, and this part is a counterpart in both.
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| Author: | weporter | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 15:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6842-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3943b Black Cone 4 x 4 x 2 with Axle Hole (Alternate) (match ID 2)
Comments from Submitter:
I had a pair of these since childhood and recently disassembled and bagged them for storage. Both had the axle hole version of the large cones, which is corroborated in terms of timeline by the already confirmed existence in 6890 and 6929. Both sets also contained 3839b, which implies they were from a later production run.
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| Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 13:10 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure, Utensil Tool Screwdriver - Narrow | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, stecre writes:
| | Why is this part so expensive in DBG??
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The long answer:
It only came out in 2005, and for all intents and purposes, the only fully-distributed
set it was in was 7251 Darth Vader Transformation. Until Lego released an updated
version of that in 2017, it was a fairly high-demand set because that scene in
Revenge of the Sith is iconic. But sets released in 2004-2005 typically had short
shelf lives because of Lego's color transformation and changes in the company.
So higher demand + lower supply = a fairly expensive set -- it still averages
$28 for 53 pieces, or $0.53/piece, and I remember seeing it go for $35-$40
a few years back. Since there are very few exclusive parts in the set besides
the figs, the few exclusive/rare parts get priced up extremely high, likely because
of people trying to Bricklink the set.
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| Author: | Killermike | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure, Utensil Tool Screwdriver - Narrow | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| Only available in 3 sets, of which one is an exclusive.
Basic Supply and Demand, I should think
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| Author: | stecre | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 12:41 | | Subject: | Minifigure, Utensil Tool Screwdriver - Narrow | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Why is this part so expensive in DBG??
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| Author: | OLarsen | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 04:40 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 5895-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | There is a black haired one on eBay right now.
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You do know you can post the auction number, right?
(Hint, hint...poke, poke...nudge, nudge)
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You can't post the link, just the item number. (202504481665)
Your post is going to be canceled.
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Thanks.I am new at this. I have now instead tried to add the minifig with brown
hair as a new item (belvmale21). I hope I will have better luck with that. If
there is one with black hair on ebay, you must be right that both versions
exist. 
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