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 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 16:18
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MidwestBrick (1855)

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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

The other site that has various categories of Used was the #1 reason I will never
use it, unless BL goes away. I do not want to have to make my judgment call
and "hope" that the buyer has the same judgment call on what category of "used"
I selected.

Here is my advice when buying Used. Buy from various sources, when you find
a source that sells you crap compared to others... don't buy from the crap
store anymore and continue buying from the stores that treat you well. For example,
a large % of my Used pieces I am confident I could put down "like-new" and maybe
even sell them as "new" and no one would know the difference. I surely don't
do that but I'm trying to make a point. I don't make too many comments
on Used Items because it isn't necessary. Buyers that purchase from me multiple
times know what to expect, that a large percentage of Used items will be in good-great
condition unless I did make a notation about a specific dent, scratch, etc...
but didn't want to toss the piece as it has value to it, however, still have
the notation that it any piece is Used and could have been played with.

I don't think we need any Buyer Rating system either. This will only cause
uproar when our opinions are ever so slightly different.

Each Store can make their own process as they see fit. I have no issue with anyone
taking the time to do this. I certainly do not have the time to "judge" every
piece though. It would literally be sorting everything once which takes long
enough, and then sorting them all again and instead of having 2 main locations
for items stored (new and used) you would need 4 or 5 or who knows how many to
make sure you are pulling from the correct drawer, bag or akro-mill slot, etc...

There is Positive, Neutral and Negative Feedback available if, as a buyer, anyone
does not agree with what they received from what they purchased.

I understand your argument but I, and I assume many others here, do not have
another 4-8 hours per day to put into subjective scoring. Thanks
 Author: iprice View Messages Posted By iprice
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 14:53
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?


I had a shipment of Lego parts recently that were a batch of new and used allegedly
"clean" Lego parts that all stank to high heaven of tobacco smoke. Some sellers
really don't care about the product at all. The b@stard even gave me a negative
feedback for complaining that a product I had paid good money for smelled terrible.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

I dunno, I notice most sellers don't even bother to describe their used parts
at all. So I find any description, even an opinion that may be slightly off from
mine, useful to me.

I've skipped sellers in the past due to no description (esp on expensive
instructions). Every junk part I've received has been on the cheaper end
with no description.


Anyway, I don't see a way to police this, honestly. Its too subjective. You
could have a rating system like ebay where you can rate the item "as described"
with up to 5 stars. However this means tons of sellers would now have to actually
take the time to describe their parts.
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 11:00
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I think that many sellers know how to properly describe their lego and to ensure
that "used" lego is not junk. Bite marks, discolouration, deep scratches, and
damage are not part of what "used" means. All of those can only pass as filler
and should be clearly described as such.

I believe the best assurance a buyer has that used parts will be of good quality
is to choose a seller with a significant amount of positive feedback.

Buyers can also help themselves by regularly informing sellers if used parts
do not meet the standards for listing.
 Author: edk View Messages Posted By edk
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 10:21
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

Depends on how much more $ buyers want to pay for used parts tp compensate for
the added time involved with listing,sorting,storing multiple conditions of the
same part.
 Author: brikomania View Messages Posted By brikomania
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 08:45
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

In another site, there are different used ratings, Used (like new), used (good),
used (acceptable). i think this is a good idea.

Of course any seller can lie, and list a chewed part as like new, but then they
also could list a used set as new sealed if they wish, feedback should reflect
that.
 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
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Ya, nothing happen... I didn't even found similar suggestion, flooded among
other ignored suggestions.

In Suggestions, agulus writes:
[...]
  
I agree wit you 100%. Last year I decided to sort used parts and
label them in 3 categories: 1) Like new 2) lightly used 3) visibly used
I also had 4th category "filler" for a while but I decided to remove it
because as you say it lowers the 6 months average.

I have to say that I got feedback from a couple buyers that they found
labeling condition of the used parts very helpful. And there was people
who were buying "fillers" also.

Every once a while someone write a suggestion post like yours,
but nothing happen
 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
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Good question. The best I can think of right now is buyer feedback with a new
item:

part quality accuracy: 0 .. 5

if a seller got x ratings under the avg, someone (BL admins) WILL HAVE TO take
action quite like 3 NSS leading to close a store.

Of course, NO ONE can oversight the dishonest buyers, sometimes assumption has
to be made I guess. As human are flawed, everything made by humans for managing
humans will have to be flawed.

Maybe, constantly complaining buyers have to send proof, but even that is not
100% safe as the worst can gather trash parts, buy the same and put discredit
on a seller. As someone said: people sucks !

In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:

[...]

  
Who will control the scores.
 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

I agree wit you 100%. Last year I decided to sort used parts and
label them in 3 categories: 1) Like new 2) lightly used 3) visibly used
I also had 4th category "filler" for a while but I decided to remove it
because as you say it lowers the 6 months average.

I have to say that I got feedback from a couple buyers that they found
labeling condition of the used parts very helpful. And there was people
who were buying "fillers" also.

Every once a while someone write a suggestion post like yours,
but nothing happen
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

I agree there should be different qualities of used, although it would probably
cause more arguments than it will solve.

I tend to avoid buying any used parts unless absolutely necessary simply because
for some sellers used means any old junk. It is unfair on sellers that take pride
in their used parts and sell only the best quality. I am also probably missing
out on getting decent used parts and instead pay higher for new, but I was burned
on my first few transactions here and quickly learned not to buy used. If there
was a "like new" used condition, I'd probably buy more used.
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts?

Who will control the scores.
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Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
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Is it not used once Lego puts it on the backing? The sticker is then stuck to
the backing that needs to be peeled off to put it on the Lego element. So if
it has not been put on the original backing it is new. Once it is stuck on the
white backing it is used.

Nope, a new, blank sticker sheet already has the backing. The backing is like
a sprue. LEGO doesn’t put the sticker on the backing, they print on the sticker
while it’s on the backing.

So it’s the printing that makes the new, blank sticker sheet not new anymore.
A new sticker should be pristine white (or transparent), unprinted.


lol! the man knows his adhesive manufacturing techniques!
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
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No, No, No. Get a cat.

They said they wanted to HAVE a pet, not to BE one

Made me laugh first thing in the morning. That is really funny. Thanks
John P
 
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  […]
Is it not used once Lego puts it on the backing? The sticker is then stuck to
the backing that needs to be peeled off to put it on the Lego element. So if
it has not been put on the original backing it is new. Once it is stuck on the
white backing it is used.

Nope, a new, blank sticker sheet already has the backing. The backing is like
a sprue. LEGO doesn’t put the sticker on the backing, they print on the sticker
while it’s on the backing.

So it’s the printing that makes the new, blank sticker sheet not new anymore.
A new sticker should be pristine white (or transparent), unprinted.
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
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No, No, No. Get a cat.

They said they wanted to HAVE a pet, not to BE one
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

Lisa

Is it not used once Lego puts it on the backing? The sticker is then stuck to
the backing that needs to be peeled off to put it on the Lego element. So if
it has not been put on the original backing it is new. Once it is stuck on the
white backing it is used.
John P
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

"Pet Peeve d'jour"

I'm sure you're not peeved daily, Lisa

We're talking about adopting a dog, as my son has out grown his allergy.
If we do, what do you think about naming our new pet, Peeve?

But seriously, it makes sense what you're proposing

Oh, my gosh. Get a lab! I had German Shepherds for over 30 years, and we finally
let my son, Daniel, have a choice. He wanted a lab, so we found someone with
lab puppies and he chose a yellow one and named him Archer. He has been with
us almost 4 years and he is the happiest dog I know! I take him to the dog park
almost daily (it is very close to the post office!) and I love to watch him play
with other dogs, or just to play with me: he loves tennis ball, frisbee, tug
toys, etc. A really good, friendly family dog! (and doesn't have the double
coat shedding that the German Shepherds have!)

Lisa

No, No, No. Get a cat.
John P
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

Lisa

Since we are talking about stickers, I see incomplete sticker sheets listed as
"new" as well on occasion.

Since there isn't an "incomplete" option, they should be considered "used"
IMHO.
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

Lisa

How would I list an element like this if you disabled new? Totally agree on
the applied aspect but a generic limitation may not be the way.

https://store.bricklink.com/BigBBricks?sID=439481&itemID=80878468
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  […]
  I have made this argument regarding boxes listed as new to no avail. I finally
gave up and listed most of my used boxes as new just like most sellers do.

Agreed. A box cannot be new if it has been opened! Now, if you have a sealed
box and you have magically transported the contents out of the box without opening
it, then I would make an exception and it can be listed as 'new'.

Or you if you get them directly from LEGO (or their supplier) before they are
filled.
Unless in that case you call them “pre-new” or “not-even-new-yet”

If someone actually got unused boxes from lego that is the only case where they
are actually new since they were not used for their intended purpose.
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  […]
  I have made this argument regarding boxes listed as new to no avail. I finally
gave up and listed most of my used boxes as new just like most sellers do.

Agreed. A box cannot be new if it has been opened! Now, if you have a sealed
box and you have magically transported the contents out of the box without opening
it, then I would make an exception and it can be listed as 'new'.

Or you if you get them directly from LEGO (or their supplier) before they are
filled.
Unless in that case you call them “pre-new” or “not-even-new-yet”
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In Suggestions, edk writes:
  In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

Lisa

I have made this argument regarding boxes listed as new to no avail. I finally
gave up and listed most of my used boxes as new just like most sellers do.

Agreed. A box cannot be new if it has been opened! Now, if you have a sealed
box and you have magically transported the contents out of the box without opening
it, then I would make an exception and it can be listed as 'new'.

Lisa
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

Lisa

I have made this argument regarding boxes listed as new to no avail. I finally
gave up and listed most of my used boxes as new just like most sellers do.
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

"Pet Peeve d'jour"

I'm sure you're not peeved daily, Lisa

We're talking about adopting a dog, as my son has out grown his allergy.
If we do, what do you think about naming our new pet, Peeve?

But seriously, it makes sense what you're proposing

Oh, my gosh. Get a lab! I had German Shepherds for over 30 years, and we finally
let my son, Daniel, have a choice. He wanted a lab, so we found someone with
lab puppies and he chose a yellow one and named him Archer. He has been with
us almost 4 years and he is the happiest dog I know! I take him to the dog park
almost daily (it is very close to the post office!) and I love to watch him play
with other dogs, or just to play with me: he loves tennis ball, frisbee, tug
toys, etc. A really good, friendly family dog! (and doesn't have the double
coat shedding that the German Shepherds have!)

Dogs ARE the best, especially labs

My son, daughter & I like all dogs! But we did grow to LOVE a certain Dachshund
that was in our care while the owners were out of country. Hung with us on all
of our back country hikes in Utah, if you can believe that. So, any dog that
needs a home, but if we stumble upon a Dachshund, well you know...

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