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 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 08:21
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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JusTiCe8 (121)

Location:  France, Île-de-France
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Ya, nothing happen... I didn't even found similar suggestion, flooded among
other ignored suggestions.

In Suggestions, agulus writes:
[...]
  
I agree wit you 100%. Last year I decided to sort used parts and
label them in 3 categories: 1) Like new 2) lightly used 3) visibly used
I also had 4th category "filler" for a while but I decided to remove it
because as you say it lowers the 6 months average.

I have to say that I got feedback from a couple buyers that they found
labeling condition of the used parts very helpful. And there was people
who were buying "fillers" also.

Every once a while someone write a suggestion post like yours,
but nothing happen
 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 08:18
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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Location:  France, Île-de-France
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Good question. The best I can think of right now is buyer feedback with a new
item:

part quality accuracy: 0 .. 5

if a seller got x ratings under the avg, someone (BL admins) WILL HAVE TO take
action quite like 3 NSS leading to close a store.

Of course, NO ONE can oversight the dishonest buyers, sometimes assumption has
to be made I guess. As human are flawed, everything made by humans for managing
humans will have to be flawed.

Maybe, constantly complaining buyers have to send proof, but even that is not
100% safe as the worst can gather trash parts, buy the same and put discredit
on a seller. As someone said: people sucks !

In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:

[...]

  
Who will control the scores.
 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 08:06
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

I agree wit you 100%. Last year I decided to sort used parts and
label them in 3 categories: 1) Like new 2) lightly used 3) visibly used
I also had 4th category "filler" for a while but I decided to remove it
because as you say it lowers the 6 months average.

I have to say that I got feedback from a couple buyers that they found
labeling condition of the used parts very helpful. And there was people
who were buying "fillers" also.

Every once a while someone write a suggestion post like yours,
but nothing happen
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 07:38
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

I agree there should be different qualities of used, although it would probably
cause more arguments than it will solve.

I tend to avoid buying any used parts unless absolutely necessary simply because
for some sellers used means any old junk. It is unfair on sellers that take pride
in their used parts and sell only the best quality. I am also probably missing
out on getting decent used parts and instead pay higher for new, but I was burned
on my first few transactions here and quickly learned not to buy used. If there
was a "like new" used condition, I'd probably buy more used.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 07:17
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts?

Who will control the scores.
 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 05:34
 Subject: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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Location:  France, Île-de-France
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Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 03:37
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6677-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6677  Name: Motocross Racing
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6677-1 (Inv) Motocross Racing
61 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1986
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race

* Delete 2 Part 4073 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 1 Part 4073c01 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 2 Part 4081a Yellow Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Yellow 4081b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 1 to 0}

Hello,

I know as a fact that the thick clips was produced since 1985. I have evidence
that thin light gray clips came with 7745-1 in its early production, but in later
production runs, since mid 1985 or even earlier, thick light grays clips were
used?
Do we have any evidence that thin clips appeared with early releases 6677-1?
Answer: it seems to me "No".

In the photos, you can also see a NIB 6677-1 with sealed bags coming with yellow
thick clips. We can also recognize the mini catalog from 1986:
 
Catalog No: m86us2  Name: 1986 Mini US (113117-US)
* 
m86us2 1986 Mini US (113117-US)
Catalogs: 1986

This is why I suggest to remove the yellow thin clips from this set. If later,
somebody finds any evidence that they came with this set, they can be added again,
but I dont' think they did come with this set.
 




 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 03:36
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4182-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4182  Name: The Cannibal Escape
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4182-1 (Inv) The Cannibal Escape
261 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2011
Sets: Pirates of the Caribbean

* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Dark Brown {4497u Minifigure, Weapon Pike / Spear - Undetermined End Version) to 4497 Minifigure, Weapon Pike / Spear - Round End}
* Change 7 Part Reddish Brown {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Set unboxing and building at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=475236
 








 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 03:34
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 4182-1
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Location:  USA, Ohio
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4182  Name: The Cannibal Escape
* 
4182-1 (Inv) The Cannibal Escape
261 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2011
Sets: Pirates of the Caribbean

* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Dark Brown {4497u Minifigure, Weapon Pike / Spear - Undetermined End Version) to 4497 Minifigure, Weapon Pike / Spear - Round End}
* Change 7 Part Reddish Brown {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
Set unboxing and building at http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=475236
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 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 03:29
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6677-1
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6677  Name: Motocross Racing
* 
6677-1 (Inv) Motocross Racing
61 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1986
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race

* Delete 2 Part 4073 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 1 Part 4073c01 Trans-Red Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 2 Part 4081a Yellow Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thin Ring (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Yellow 4081b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Thick Ring {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 1 to 0}

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