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 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 08:18
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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Good question. The best I can think of right now is buyer feedback with a new
item:

part quality accuracy: 0 .. 5

if a seller got x ratings under the avg, someone (BL admins) WILL HAVE TO take
action quite like 3 NSS leading to close a store.

Of course, NO ONE can oversight the dishonest buyers, sometimes assumption has
to be made I guess. As human are flawed, everything made by humans for managing
humans will have to be flawed.

Maybe, constantly complaining buyers have to send proof, but even that is not
100% safe as the worst can gather trash parts, buy the same and put discredit
on a seller. As someone said: people sucks !

In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:

[...]

  
Who will control the scores.
 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 08:06
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

I agree wit you 100%. Last year I decided to sort used parts and
label them in 3 categories: 1) Like new 2) lightly used 3) visibly used
I also had 4th category "filler" for a while but I decided to remove it
because as you say it lowers the 6 months average.

I have to say that I got feedback from a couple buyers that they found
labeling condition of the used parts very helpful. And there was people
who were buying "fillers" also.

Every once a while someone write a suggestion post like yours,
but nothing happen
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 07:38
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?

I agree there should be different qualities of used, although it would probably
cause more arguments than it will solve.

I tend to avoid buying any used parts unless absolutely necessary simply because
for some sellers used means any old junk. It is unfair on sellers that take pride
in their used parts and sell only the best quality. I am also probably missing
out on getting decent used parts and instead pay higher for new, but I was burned
on my first few transactions here and quickly learned not to buy used. If there
was a "like new" used condition, I'd probably buy more used.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 07:17
 Subject: Re: New and Used: more shades of grey are needed
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In Suggestions, JusTiCe8 writes:
  Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts?

Who will control the scores.
 Author: JusTiCe8 View Messages Posted By JusTiCe8
 Posted: Feb 6, 2019 05:34
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Hi,

as a buyer, I found having only two choices for parts condition is far too basic
and not useful, mostly for buyers, but also for sellers who seek accuracy and
honesty regarding their inventory.

I mean, for now a seller can only pick new or used, but pretty much everyone
has his/her own standard and I got some used parts which are like new, some others
which are closer to the one way ticket to trash, if you see what I mean .

It's not good nor practical to force seller to put actual picture(s) of all
the used parts, both hobbyist and professional has better use of their time I
guess.
Plus, asking for every single part before ordering is not good either, some sellers
didn't took time to reply to potential buyer's question already.

And when seller put description, it's quite subjective, one adjective is
far to describe actual shape of a part: "bite marks, yellowish", ok but how many
marks, how deep ?
how much "yellowished" is the brick ?
Some may claims "quite good", some other "I can't send them to trash".

A quality score could be added to a used part. It would be used as well to set
the sell price, as trash-ready used parts can lower the infamous "average 6 months"
and lower ALL prices, which is very unfair for like new parts.

Any thoughts ?
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Feb 4, 2019 12:22
 Subject: Re: My Pet Peeve of the day
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  […]
Is it not used once Lego puts it on the backing? The sticker is then stuck to
the backing that needs to be peeled off to put it on the Lego element. So if
it has not been put on the original backing it is new. Once it is stuck on the
white backing it is used.

Nope, a new, blank sticker sheet already has the backing. The backing is like
a sprue. LEGO doesn’t put the sticker on the backing, they print on the sticker
while it’s on the backing.

So it’s the printing that makes the new, blank sticker sheet not new anymore.
A new sticker should be pristine white (or transparent), unprinted.


lol! the man knows his adhesive manufacturing techniques!
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Feb 4, 2019 09:47
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
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No, No, No. Get a cat.

They said they wanted to HAVE a pet, not to BE one

Made me laugh first thing in the morning. That is really funny. Thanks
John P
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 4, 2019 08:55
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  […]
Is it not used once Lego puts it on the backing? The sticker is then stuck to
the backing that needs to be peeled off to put it on the Lego element. So if
it has not been put on the original backing it is new. Once it is stuck on the
white backing it is used.

Nope, a new, blank sticker sheet already has the backing. The backing is like
a sprue. LEGO doesn’t put the sticker on the backing, they print on the sticker
while it’s on the backing.

So it’s the printing that makes the new, blank sticker sheet not new anymore.
A new sticker should be pristine white (or transparent), unprinted.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 4, 2019 08:52
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
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No, No, No. Get a cat.

They said they wanted to HAVE a pet, not to BE one
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Feb 4, 2019 01:42
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In Suggestions, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  Whenever I am looking up a stickered part in the catalog to identify, I then
look at past and current sales of this part. So my pet peeve is this: how can
a stickered part possibly be listed as 'new'?? Just by the fact that
you took the sticker off the sheet and attached it to the part makes it, by definition,
USED! It doesn't matter if you never used this part to build the set, it
is still used! Is there any way we can disable the 'new' button when
listing these types of parts?

Lisa

Is it not used once Lego puts it on the backing? The sticker is then stuck to
the backing that needs to be peeled off to put it on the Lego element. So if
it has not been put on the original backing it is new. Once it is stuck on the
white backing it is used.
John P

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