| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | xxxzanka  | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 17:16 | | Subject: | Re: 42082 extra items | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
| | In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
| | In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
| | It seems to me one trans clear 1x1 plate is missing as extra parts (I have 3
in step 8 bags, 2 used in step 8).
Giancarlo
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Tile not plate, sorry
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Yes you have right it is visible in this review
https://youtu.be/FTrlyFYOoes?t=21m13s
Please consider submiting invetory change request here
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S
BTW Are you able to check rest of the inventory. Parts count on box is 4057.
Currently in this inventory we have 4056 parts. Is there missing something more?
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Sure as soon as i will end all the steps (I have little time for legoing unfortunately)
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Set completed: at the end my extra parts list has this differences: no 43093
(axle pin with friction blu); 1x3713 (gray tech bush) instead of 2; 4x3713 (red
tech bush) instead of 5.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 12:31 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | But, perhaps Marek and Randy can produce some guidelines for us on how extra
sticker sheets should be handled in set inventories considering the positions
we've outlined.
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Marek and I can look into this, but it won't be very high priority.
Also, judging by your position, you wouldn't like my guidelines.  
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 04:44 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | But the sticker sheets were clearly not intended to be included as extra parts
and don't appear often enough to justify including them as extra parts.
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There are two schools of thought on this and good arguments can definitely be
made for both positions. You have presented one side well and I will present
the other side:
1. Frequency of appearance is not currently the deciding factor in the
inclusion of an extra part in a set inventory. Should it be? I don't believe
so. How could you reasonably set a quantity of appearances before an extra is
allowed into an inventory?
2. I've never heard a convincing explanation of why any extra parts
are included in any sets, although I've certainly heard a number of theories.
Extra sticker sheets certainly don't appear to be consistent extras, but
should intentionality on the part of TLG be the deciding factor on including
extras in an inventory? I don't believe so, or at least not until we can
conclusively define (based on convincing evidence) the circumstances regarding
extra parts and their appearance in sets.
3. It is possible that extra sticker sheet extras are more common than
any of us realize, even if only packing errors. If we're not keeping any
records of their appearance in sets, then how would we truly know?
4. Extra sticker sheets fit the definition of extra parts as well as
any other extra part does. They appear in some sets and not in others. Should
we base decisions on extra parts on anything other than the fact that they came
in a set and were extra? I don't believe so.
But, perhaps Marek and Randy can produce some guidelines for us on how extra
sticker sheets should be handled in set inventories considering the positions
we've outlined.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 04:06 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times.
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We may have differing opinions on this - not sure because we've never discussed
it. My opinion is that a sticker is a part. We consider it a part and TLG considers
it a part and includes it in the part count.
If you have an extra one of these parts, then I believe it fits the definition
of an extra part and should be included in the set inventory as such:
Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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In my experience extra sticker sheets are caused by packing errors and they are
not systematically included as extras. This is supported by the fact that I've
bought multiples of the same set from the same supplier and found an extra sheet
in only one of the sets.
In my opinion extras should only be extra parts that Lego put in sets for at
least one production run of the set. For example there are some sets that were
first produced before 1x1 plates were included as extras but later production
runs did include them as extras. For those sets I support the inclusion of them
as extra parts.
But the sticker sheets were clearly not intended to be included as extra parts
and don't appear often enough to justify including them as extra parts.
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 17:53 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, PortCityTechnic writes:
| | In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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I too have received an extra sticker sheet a time or two, but never frequently
or consistently. For example, parting out 10 copies of a set, and ending up
with 11 sticker sheets. The extra sticker sheet seems more like a packing error
by TLG, and as such, I don't think I would add them as extras in the set
inventory.
I don't think sticker sheets were ever systematically included as extra parts,
in the way that 1x1 plates, technic pins, and other small parts commonly are.
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I agree!
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| Author: | PortCityTechnic | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 17:46 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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I too have received an extra sticker sheet a time or two, but never frequently
or consistently. For example, parting out 10 copies of a set, and ending up
with 11 sticker sheets. The extra sticker sheet seems more like a packing error
by TLG, and as such, I don't think I would add them as extras in the set
inventory.
I don't think sticker sheets were ever systematically included as extra parts,
in the way that 1x1 plates, technic pins, and other small parts commonly are.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times.
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We may have differing opinions on this - not sure because we've never discussed
it. My opinion is that a sticker is a part. We consider it a part and TLG considers
it a part and includes it in the part count.
If you have an extra one of these parts, then I believe it fits the definition
of an extra part and should be included in the set inventory as such:
Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, runner.caller writes:
| | I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?
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It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times. I just consider myself lucky when I
get one!
Cheers,
Randy
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Thanks Randy! That's what I was thinking probably happened. Cool!
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, runner.caller writes:
| | I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?
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It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times. I just consider myself lucky when I
get one!
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 11:35 | | Subject: | Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
| I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?
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