| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | paulvdb  | | Posted: | Dec 16, 2018 04:06 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times.
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We may have differing opinions on this - not sure because we've never discussed
it. My opinion is that a sticker is a part. We consider it a part and TLG considers
it a part and includes it in the part count.
If you have an extra one of these parts, then I believe it fits the definition
of an extra part and should be included in the set inventory as such:
Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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In my experience extra sticker sheets are caused by packing errors and they are
not systematically included as extras. This is supported by the fact that I've
bought multiples of the same set from the same supplier and found an extra sheet
in only one of the sets.
In my opinion extras should only be extra parts that Lego put in sets for at
least one production run of the set. For example there are some sets that were
first produced before 1x1 plates were included as extras but later production
runs did include them as extras. For those sets I support the inclusion of them
as extra parts.
But the sticker sheets were clearly not intended to be included as extra parts
and don't appear often enough to justify including them as extra parts.
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 17:53 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, PortCityTechnic writes:
| | In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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I too have received an extra sticker sheet a time or two, but never frequently
or consistently. For example, parting out 10 copies of a set, and ending up
with 11 sticker sheets. The extra sticker sheet seems more like a packing error
by TLG, and as such, I don't think I would add them as extras in the set
inventory.
I don't think sticker sheets were ever systematically included as extra parts,
in the way that 1x1 plates, technic pins, and other small parts commonly are.
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I agree!
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| Author: | PortCityTechnic | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 17:46 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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I too have received an extra sticker sheet a time or two, but never frequently
or consistently. For example, parting out 10 copies of a set, and ending up
with 11 sticker sheets. The extra sticker sheet seems more like a packing error
by TLG, and as such, I don't think I would add them as extras in the set
inventory.
I don't think sticker sheets were ever systematically included as extra parts,
in the way that 1x1 plates, technic pins, and other small parts commonly are.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times.
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We may have differing opinions on this - not sure because we've never discussed
it. My opinion is that a sticker is a part. We consider it a part and TLG considers
it a part and includes it in the part count.
If you have an extra one of these parts, then I believe it fits the definition
of an extra part and should be included in the set inventory as such:
Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.
What are your thoughts?
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories, runner.caller writes:
| | I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?
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It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times. I just consider myself lucky when I
get one! 
Cheers,
Randy
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Thanks Randy! That's what I was thinking probably happened. Cool!
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, runner.caller writes:
| | I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?
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It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times. I just consider myself lucky when I
get one!
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2018 11:35 | | Subject: | Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: set 10205 extra parts question | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Catalog, mockingbird writes:
| | As far as I can see (maybe I overlooked something):
In the regular section of the inventory there are parts that are not used in
the main model (and the instructions or box do not show any secondary model):
1x black brick 1x2
2x black plate 1x1 clip horizontal
2x black slope inverted 75 2x1x3
1x black tile 1x4
But then in the extra parts section of set 10205 are 2x black panel 1x2x3 (2362b).
Shouldn't these two panels also be moved to the regular section?
Or should all these parts be moved to the 'extra' section as the secondary
model is not in the instructions?
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You are definitely correct in noticing that there is a problem with this inventory,
so thank you for bringing this to our attention!
The current definition for what constitutes a Regular Item in an inventory on
BrickLink is shown here from https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
"Regular Items - All parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models, plus any other items on the official parts list. In the absence of a
parts list, the instructions, box images, and official part count may be used
to determine as closely as possible the constitution of the Regular section."
So let's go down the list...
Are these parts shown in the main model or any secondary models? No, so this
first criteria points to all of these parts as being extras.
Are these parts shown on the official parts list? There is no official parts
list, so this criteria is inconclusive and directly leads us to the last criteria.
Are the parts shown in the instructions? No.
Are the parts shown on the box images? No.
Are the parts included in the official part count? YES!
The box clearly states that there are 234 parts included in the set. Right now,
the BrickLink inventory lists 232 parts. Therefore, the panels in the Extra Items
section should be included in the Regular Items section. The LEGO Replacement
Parts website also confirms that all of the parts you listed as not being used
in the instructions *were* included in the set.
In conclusion, the inventory will be updated to move the panels to the Regular
Items section.
Thank you for contributing to the accuracy of the BrickLink catalog. 
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | mockingbird | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2018 05:42 | | Subject: | set 10205 extra parts question | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| As far as I can see (maybe I overlooked something):
In the regular section of the inventory there are parts that are not used in
the main model (and the instructions or box do not show any secondary model):
1x black brick 1x2
2x black plate 1x1 clip horizontal
2x black slope inverted 75 2x1x3
1x black tile 1x4
But then in the extra parts section of set 10205 are 2x black panel 1x2x3 (2362b).
Shouldn't these two panels also be moved to the regular section?
Or should all these parts be moved to the 'extra' section as the secondary
model is not in the instructions?
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| Author: | xxxzanka | | Posted: | Dec 6, 2018 07:03 | | Subject: | Re: 42082 extra items | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
| | In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
| | It seems to me one trans clear 1x1 plate is missing as extra parts (I have 3
in step 8 bags, 2 used in step 8).
Giancarlo
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Tile not plate, sorry
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Yes you have right it is visible in this review
https://youtu.be/FTrlyFYOoes?t=21m13s
Please consider submiting invetory change request here
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S
BTW Are you able to check rest of the inventory. Parts count on box is 4057.
Currently in this inventory we have 4056 parts. Is there missing something more?
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Sure as soon as i will end all the steps (I have little time for legoing unfortunately)
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