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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 5, 2024 05:52
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In Help, ZoltanBricks writes:
  Hello
In my opinion, the following minifigure sh684 (https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sh684)
is included in this set: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=682306-1&name=Spider-Man%20paper%20bag&category=%5BSuper%20Heroes%5D%5BSpider-Man%5D#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}.
How can I be recommended for examination?

Greetings, ZoltanBricks

The set hasn't been Inventories. That is why it doesn't contain anything,
including the figure. The set would need to be Inventoried to have the relationship
between the figure and set.
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 Posted: May 4, 2024 19:10
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In Help, coqie writes:
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  In Help, yorbrick writes:
  Rather than suggesting that they could open a paypal claim to get refunded, why
not just refund them. The end result is the same, and you probably wouldnt have
received the NSS warning. Now you must refund to have it removed.

Additionally, if the buyer submits a PayPal claim and the seller contests it
and loses, the seller will get hit with an additional dispute fee.

That's possible, but I have a strong case. I have proof I shipped it, buyer
acknowledges this, I have confirmation from the shipper they lost it. So why
should I loose this claim? That would be very sad but maybe not impossible. That's
a risk I need to take. The proposal I should just refund it out of my own pocket
while there's paid for insurance is just ridiculous. Then I can place a thousand
orders and once received place a NSS on every single one of them hoping the seller
will refund me right away. Hurray, thousand orders received without spending
a single penny!

If you feel you have a strong case, then contest the claim when the buyer makes
the claim. You will need to supply paypal with your evidence so give them what
you have. You should not need to pay out of your pocket as you will be able to
refund out of whatever compensation you can claim from the shipping company.

If you file NSS against other sellers when they have proof of delivery, you will
eventually be banned. You will also lose paypal claims.
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 Posted: May 4, 2024 15:16
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  You are all missing the point here. Ok, at the end the buyer will be refunded,
if not by paypal then he certainly will be by me. But what's the point of
insurance if you decide not to use it and refund it yourself? When you buy a
new car and take full insurance, including damaged caused by yourself and wreck
the car, do you buy an other one without contacting your insurance? No, you try
to get your money back from your expensive insurance first. Fact is that my buyer
is not looking for a refund from me, he just wants a refund what's absolutely
normal. He opened a paypal claim and I provived all information so that won't
be a problem. And again, if paypal decides not to refund, I will. But how ridiculous
would it be to refund something without trying the insurance first. Main problem
is that the buyer is very slow in responding. It took me 3 messages and 5 weeks
to bring to his attention that there was a problem with the delivery. If I didn't
do that he would probably still not know there was a problem. As far as I can
tel from his comment in the NSS he just wanted to cancel the order, not knowing
an NSS is not the right way to do that.

Paypal will refund. Out of your money. And if you don't agree, they will
charge you extra.
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 Posted: May 4, 2024 14:25
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In Help, coqie writes:
  A buyer placed a NSS (Non Shipping Seller alert) on an order in my store while
there's no doubt about the fact that I shipped it. I provided the shipping
company, tracking code and informed him myself about a delivery issue and the
fact it got lost. I suggested he could open a paypal claim to get refunded. He
finally did this but also placed a NSS what could cause me a lot of damage and
could result in a closure of my store if others do this again. It's already
the second time this happened. I informed him about the consequences this could
have to me and kindly requested to remove the NSS till the paypal claim is handled.
He does not respond. I also contacted bricklink administration but just like
previous time, they probably will take no action.
What can I do to get the NSS removed and how can I wake up bricklink to avoid
incorrect placed NSS in the future? It's very stressfull to receive a NSS
let be when it's based on false accusations.

Rather than suggesting that they could open a paypal claim to get refunded, why
not just refund them. The end result is the same, and you probably wouldnt have
received the NSS warning. Now you must refund to have it removed.
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 Posted: May 4, 2024 06:19
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In Help, robertomcevoya writes:
  Hi
Does anyone remember a Prince Harry model by Canadian artist Sarah Mackenzie
from 2008?

Did it come with spare parts?
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 Posted: May 3, 2024 15:10
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, macebobo writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?

I just opened all of mine so I can note that one can open them with minimal damage
and use tape to re-seal (not to sell them as sealed, of course). I don't
think this is possible with a polybag.

It is possible to cut open a polybag and seal it again with tape. If you really
wanted to be neat, you can split them behind the flap on the back and it is almost
invisible. But they are still open and take up more space than putting in a ziplock
bag and most buyers buying a non-sealed set want it for the contents and not
the packet.
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  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
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  Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.

I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

They still need to be opened to identify them as they are meant to be blind packaged.
Of course, in some cases the barcodes can be used where known. In the same way
buyers don't care about ripped open foil packets for earlier series, I doubt
buyers will want sellers to be shipping the relatively large and heavy ripped
open boxes at the buyer's expense, just for them to be thrown away. If they
were meant to be identifiable without opening, it is a very different case.
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 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:01
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Coren666 writes:
  I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is

You can't sell them as New, Complete without the box.

You can sell them as New, Incomplete OR you could part them out as sets and sell
the minifigures in zip bags.

Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.
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 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:20
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
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  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...

If they have said that in bricklink messages, rather than just by email, then
report it. They should be suspended for doing that.
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  I mean, you have always had the chance here to also sell clone and competitors
parts and this is totally alllowaaaah, no it's not any more.

LEGO didn't want us to sell competitors on their platforms (and some whiners
even blamed them and complained about that!) and I'm sure they're super
happy seeing people sponsoring COBI here or other brands! Why not! I mean, they're
totally into supporting competitors.

Before LEGO took over, sellers were not allowed to sell COBI here, nor other
clones like Megabloks nor other perfectly legal CE certified brands. Sellers
were allowed to sell parts such as those from Brick Arms, Brick Warriors, Brick
Forge, etc where they complimented LEGO MOCs, especially where they were minifigure
accessories that LEGO did not produce.

  Sometimes I really question myself over how do some people brains work.

As do many others about your little one.
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  I didn't speak about COBI as illegal (try to quote me, I dare you), I said
that MOST bricks you see are illegal. Which is true. Lepin was illegal. Enlighten
is. And I don't go on because, differently from you, I don't want to
advertise such bricks. But I know what it makes in EUROPE a brick illegal, since
you do NOT have a clue of the topic, but I do.


I will quote you ...

It's really a pain to spend a lot of time sorting bricks separing cheap
clones
like COBI
and so on from the actual LEGO and encouraging people to keep them
in order to make some small (to nearly zero) profit is not a good attitude for
this platform. I strongly believe that the money you can gain out of selling
stuff like clones (most of them are also illegal in most countries) is
a small
amount compared to the time you lose in separing the bricks, converted into money.
Yours is shortsighted business.


You specifically name one brand and one brand only as a cheap clone, and then
go on to say that most clones are illegal in most countries. As you have only
specifically mentioned one clone brand, COBI, and then gone on to say that most
clones are illegal the implication is that COBI is illegal in most countries.
If you had not meant that COBI is illegal, then you should not have stated the
name before saying most clones are illegal.

  In Europe all toys must undergo the Communitee Europeenne mark, which is MANDATORY
for all toys. Chinese bricks, for instance, do not have this mark on their toys,
and since it is mandatory, they are totally illegal to be sold in Europe which
have more severe control laws over toys, because, guess what, we do care about
the children's health.

However, still, you lack mere comprehension.

No I don't. But you really seem to lack perspective.

  I'm not speaking about wheter is good or wrong to buy such crap (when legal!),
I'm talking about the stuff that it's totally wrong to use THIS forum
to compliment about third party low quality competitors, even if legal.

And what about third party high quality competitors' parts that can be mistaken
for LEGO, as happened here?

If you read the thread, someone found a COBI piece. Someone else replied to imply
that it should be destroyed. Someone else said don't destroy it, save it
as it is is a quality piece that others might value. Then you throw a wobbly
saying that people should not discuss the quality of clone brands.

  Would you go to a Ferrari spare parts community and spread your poorly concealed
love for Hyundais? Of course you would not.

If someone found a Hyundai part that looked like a Ferrari part in a box that
contained many other Ferrari parts and asked about it on a Ferrari spare parts
forum, then someone else said it is a Hyundai part and someone else said destroy
it, then someone else said don't destroy it as it is a quality part that
has a use and some value to others, I would not be in a fit of rage just because
somebody said a part for another brand has value.

  There are places in where it fits to speak about some topics, and places where
it doesn't at all.

This thread is about a part from a clone brand that has been shown and asked
to be identified, as the owner mistook it for LEGO. Saying that the part still
has value even though it is not LEGO is perfectly appropriate in such a thread.
Discussing that such parts exist also makes sense on a LEGO forum so that other
people do not mistakenly identify bricks that are similar to LEGO as LEGO. It
is no less appropriate to say that a clone part should not be destroyed than
to say that a clone part should be destroyed. Both statements are discussing
a clone part. Yet you only take offense at the one that says don't destroy
it.

The first post in this thread is about a COBI part, as that is what is shown.
Is it appropriate to show such a part even if it is by mistake as the owner thought
it was a LEGO part? If you don't like it, then you can report the thread
saying that it is advertising clone parts that should not be discussed on a forum
owned by LEGO.

  Making high praises of competitor brands on a LEGO ran site is totally out of
context.

They are not making high praises. They simply said "COBI is a very high quality
clone, and there is a market for it." That is a true statement. It is better
to keep and reuse something than it is to destroy because it is not LEGO. There
was no statement such as COBI is better than LEGO, there was no statement that
people should not buy LEGO but buy COBI instead, just a short sentence that a
clone part should not be destroyed because someone might be able to use it.
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  All of that you wrote is so wrong on so many levels that I doubt even explaining
you everything would remotely change your mind, so there's nothing more we
can say about this.

It is clear you have no clue at all. Just because you don't like something,
it doesn't mean it is against the law.

Can you list every country where COBI branded bricks are illegal? If that is
over 100 then I will concede that COBI is illegal in most countries in the world.

  Just one note: FYI removing some competitors could actually lead in a DECREASE
of the price of LEGO because those competitors deprive the market from potential
buyers. May. Or may not. Your conclusions show once again you're very shortsighted
at business.

Or you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Again. Monopolies rarely
lead to a decrease in prices.
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In Problem Order, eti writes:
  I ordered 3 rare items but received three (vaguely similar) non-Lego items instead
- by mistake, I suppose, because a beginning seller may not know about 1950s
Lego pars.. I notified the seller. They did not reply to my message, which still
says 'unread', but refunded me anyway, so all is well, but the order
still sits on my order page. Should I hit 'complete' because it's
all dealt with, or shouldn't I because the order was not completed?

File it.
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In Catalog Identification, RouvenSch1982 writes:
  I got the Minifigure and it has a yellow leg.
Has anyone found the same "mutation".
Searched the internet but couldnt find any information.

I thought it was meant to be the moon that was made from cheese!
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In Help, Shintaku writes:
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  I was obviously referring to the sentence
"COBI is a very high quality clone".

They didn't say "it's a decent" or something like that.
"VERY HIGH quality" is a compliment. Wheter you agree or not, it's
a fact.

It is a high quality clone. That is a fact.

This behaviour of yours is very damaging to the community.

Which community is my behaviour damaging?


  It's really a pain to spend a lot of time sorting bricks separing cheap clones
like COBI and so on from the actual LEGO and encouraging people to keep them
in order to make some small (to nearly zero) profit is not a good attitude for
this platform. I strongly believe that the money you can gain out of selling
stuff like clones (most of them are also illegal in most countries) is a small
amount compared to the time you lose in separing the bricks, converted into money.
Yours is shortsighted business.

So what you are implying here is that no other company aside from LEGO should
be allowed to sell brick building toys. If you buy bulk lots and need to remove
clone parts from them, that is not because of my behaviour. It is because the
people you bought them from had LEGO mixed up with bricks from other brands.
If sorting is an issue for you, then you should check first whether the mixed
lots you buy have clones in.

COBI is not illegal in most countries. That is an absolutely ridiculous statement.
You really do not know what you are talking about.

  I believe also that complimenting or giving value to clone brands on this forum
is totally not the right place to do such. People who spend hours in separating
actual LEGO from knockoffs do this because of people keeping on having your attitude.

Many clone brands are of high quality these days. Some surpass LEGO in that their
colour can be more consistent, in some cases molding marks are less visible,
and prints are better quality. Denying that helps nobody. LEGO has had some terrible
quality issues in the past. If AFOLs deny that there are quality issues, then
LEGO would never have to improve where they fall short.

Just because something is not made by LEGO does not mean it has no value at all.
Destroying items because they are not LEGO is wrong. Banning other companies
from producing brick building toys would be hugely detrimental to LEGO fans,
since LEGO could increase the prices even more than they have already done as
they would have no competition. It also wouldn't be possible anyway as LEGO
does not have the right to stop other companies producing similar items especially
where LEGO no longer has active patents for.

COBI is a genuine company that produces its own designs for sets, and produces
many themes that LEGO say they will never produce. It is a perfectly legal competitor
for brick based toys.
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  I was obviously referring to the sentence
"COBI is a very high quality clone".

They didn't say "it's a decent" or something like that.
"VERY HIGH quality" is a compliment. Wheter you agree or not, it's
a fact.

It is a high quality clone. That is a fact.
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  In another message you feel the irresistible urge to compliment clones on a site
run by LEGO.

They aren't complimenting them. They are implying that COBI parts are not
rubbish that should be thrown away / destroyed and that there are people that
will buy them. Which is true. COBI parts do crop up in used LEGO lots and there
are people that want them. It is incredibly wasteful to destroy items like that
just because they are not LEGO branded. It is far better to pop them in a tub
and sell on as bulk COBI once the tub is full, or bulk mixed clones if they are
with other brands. Obviously they cannot be sold here but that doesn't mean
there is not a market for them, or that they should be destroyed.
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  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.

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