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 Author: Shintaku View Messages Posted By Shintaku
 Posted: May 6, 2024 17:04
 Subject: Re: Changes for EU Sellers in 2024
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Shintaku (3766)

Location:  Italy, Lombardia
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In some countries you cannot have a OSS or VAT if you have some specific Jobs

Does this mean these people Will have their shop closed After Dec 31?
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: May 6, 2024 16:21
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Teup (6597)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
  
- Tax Identification Number (TIN), including a supporting document:  https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/tin/#/check-tin

The TIN of every UBO, just the BL account holder, or of the business (not aware
of it having one)?
 Author: ZwarteMagica View Messages Posted By ZwarteMagica
 Posted: May 6, 2024 13:24
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ZwarteMagica (10190)

Location:  Netherlands, Noord-Holland
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It it oke for us. If BrickLink ask us for the required documents for DAC-7 we
will deliver them.

In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, ZwarteMagica writes:
  Because of margin goods
[…]

But this is about DAC-7, not about OSS & the €10k “Distance Selling” threshold.

AFAIK, DAC-7 wants to know for how much you sell, not what you buy.

And, again, there’s no proof that what you buy here, you sell here.  At most,
if DAC-7 was interested in that, it would ask for your buying _separately_, not
“selling minus buying.”
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 6, 2024 12:16
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SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Administrative, ZwarteMagica writes:
  Because of margin goods
[…]

But this is about DAC-7, not about OSS & the €10k “Distance Selling” threshold.

AFAIK, DAC-7 wants to know for how much you sell, not what you buy.

And, again, there’s no proof that what you buy here, you sell here.  At most,
if DAC-7 was interested in that, it would ask for your buying _separately_, not
“selling minus buying.”
 Author: ZwarteMagica View Messages Posted By ZwarteMagica
 Posted: May 6, 2024 12:06
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ZwarteMagica (10190)

Location:  Netherlands, Noord-Holland
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Store: HappyB
Because of margin goods

https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/zakelijk/btw/bijzondere_regelingen/margeregeling/

As far as I know margin goods do not count towards the EU-marketplace rules.
But need to be done with your local tax office.
We informed BrickLink about those rules back in 2022 with a signed document by
our local taxation office confirming our statement.
Now in 2024 those rules still apply and as far as I`m aware it will still exist
in the same form after 2024.

In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, StarBrick writes:
  Maybe by asking here, I will get a reply :

In the data that will be provided to the tax authorities, will the total of sales
be reduced by the total of bought items?

Hence the sold value -/- the bought value?

Asked it several times before in the last 18-20 months, but never got a reply
(AFAIK...).

Why?   The regulation asks for what you sell, not what you buy.

Of course you need to buy before you sell, but buying here is no different from
buying elsewhere.
(Besides, there’s also no way to know if you sell here what you buy here.  You
might buy elswhere to sell here and buy here to sell elsewhere, hopefully for
you at a higher price each time.)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 6, 2024 11:48
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SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Administrative, StarBrick writes:
  Maybe by asking here, I will get a reply :

In the data that will be provided to the tax authorities, will the total of sales
be reduced by the total of bought items?

Hence the sold value -/- the bought value?

Asked it several times before in the last 18-20 months, but never got a reply
(AFAIK...).

Why?   The regulation asks for what you sell, not what you buy.

Of course you need to buy before you sell, but buying here is no different from
buying elsewhere.
(Besides, there’s also no way to know if you sell here what you buy here.  You
might buy elswhere to sell here and buy here to sell elsewhere, hopefully for
you at a higher price each time.)
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: May 6, 2024 11:29
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StarBrick (7062)

Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
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Maybe by asking here, I will get a reply :

In the data that will be provided to the tax authorities, will the total of sales
be reduced by the total of bought items?

Hence the sold value -/- the bought value?

Asked it several times before in the last 18-20 months, but never got a reply
(AFAIK...).
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: May 6, 2024 11:21
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StarBrick (7062)

Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
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Thanks, was just gonna make the same request .

Is there already a rough time schedule that can be shared?
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: May 2, 2024 05:09
 Subject: Re: Norway Tax Implementation
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Stellar (3492)

Location:  Spain, Comunidad Valenciana
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In Administrative, yhagger writes:
  As fare as I know there has been no changes for the better. When will this be
fixed Bricklink? There are a lot of sellers not sending to Norway now because
of this problem. You need to fix this! At least let the seller return only VAT
to the buyer!

If by sellers not sending to Norway you mean Bricklink shows a message that the
seller does not support orders to Norway then you can try to contact those sellers
as they just need to accept PayPal Onsite or Stripe as payment methods.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 1, 2024 15:17
 Subject: Re: Norway Tax Implementation
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peregrinator (772)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Administrative, yhagger writes:
  As fare as I know there has been no changes for the better. When will this be
fixed Bricklink? There are a lot of sellers not sending to Norway now because
of this problem. You need to fix this! At least let the seller return only VAT
to the buyer!

I believe BL is required by law to collect VAT and remit to the Norwegian authorities.
I'm guessing that many sellers just don't want to bother with the VOEC
number or the possibility of something going wrong.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 1, 2024 13:56
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1001bricks (52314)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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Store: 1001bricks
In Administrative, yhagger writes:
  As fare as I know there has been no changes for the better. When will this be
fixed Bricklink? There are a lot of sellers not sending to Norway now because
of this problem. You need to fix this! At least let the seller return only VAT
to the buyer!

But which problem?
BrickLink provides an invoice showing VAT has been paid and the VOEC number.

I don't understand.
 Author: yhagger View Messages Posted By yhagger
 Posted: May 1, 2024 13:48
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yhagger (23)

Location:  Norway, Akershus
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As fare as I know there has been no changes for the better. When will this be
fixed Bricklink? There are a lot of sellers not sending to Norway now because
of this problem. You need to fix this! At least let the seller return only VAT
to the buyer!

In Administrative, yhagger writes:
  Anastasia has just updated the info page. Hopefully it will get better

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2616

"Sellers are required to ensure that VOEC number issued by BrickLink is provided
to Norwegian Customs authorities for each order that contains only low-value
items.

Failure to provide a VOEC number from BrickLink may result in errors and delays
because an order’s value would have to be identified at the border.

How to provide the VOEC number digitally:

Freight by postal service:
Provide the VOEC number (7 digits) via «electronic advance data» (M33/ITMATT
V1.) when booking the freight from your local postal service. Enter your 7-digit
VOEC number in the ITMATT field «sender.identification.reference».

Freight by other transporters, for example couriers, express delivery services:
Enter your VOEC number (7 digits) in the EDI message or via API as directed by
the carrier when booking the freight.


You can find up-to-date information on how to sell goods within the VOEC scheme
to Norwegian consumers here. If you have questions about how to provide your
VOEC number digitally, please contact the carrier of your goods"
 Author: Give.Me.A.Brick View Messages Posted By Give.Me.A.Brick
 Posted: Apr 29, 2024 16:06
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Give.Me.A.Brick (10603)

Location:  Portugal
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In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
  Dear BrickLink sellers,
 
As the next step in making sure that we are in compliance with the EU DAC-7 regulations,
we will start collecting additional information from BrickLink Sellers shortly.
To see if you qualify as a Business Seller, please check with Article 8ac of
the EU Council Directive: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021L0514
 
Information that we will be collecting includes the following: 

- Name of business,

- Business registration number, including a supporting document. As different 
rules
apply for each EU member state, refer to your local authority for directions, 

- Tax Identification Number (TIN), including a supporting document:  https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/tin/#/check-tin
- OSS Number and/ or VAT ID for each country of registration: 
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/online-sellers_en
 
You may be aware that we already started requesting this from new Business Sellers
last year. For more details, go to our previous forum post regarding DAC-7: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=332298.
We are now starting the process of collecting this information for all of our
existing Business Sellers.
 
Existing Business Sellers should add this information to their accounts by December
31, 2024. After submission, documents will be reviewed by BrickLink.
 
To ensure that everyone’s requests are handled in a consistent and timely manner,
we will be requesting account updates in waves, by country. We strongly advise
our members to add information to their accounts by the deadline for their corresponding
countries. We will be sending out emails with further details and instructions
for each country in accordance with a schedule. We recommend that you start collecting
the required documentation as soon as possible and await further instructions
for how to add this to your account.
 
Kind Regards,
The BrickLink Team 


All the information you are asking here, and supporting documentation, I've
already provided.

TIN, OSS number and VAT ID are the same for one-person companies in Portugal:
 
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Apr 29, 2024 15:41
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Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
  Dear BrickLink sellers,

Please kindly note I opened a ticket about this years ago (not resolved), so
we still do NOT receive e-mails sent though mailchimp or whoever you use to send
Announcements.

But if sent from @bricklink or @lego, no problem of course.

So, please inform sellers from bricklink and not through the mass e-mail
provider.

Thank you!
 Author: CE_Anastasia View Messages Posted By CE_Anastasia
 Posted: Apr 29, 2024 13:16
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CE_Anastasia

Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
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BrickLink Administrator
Dear BrickLink sellers,
 
As the next step in making sure that we are in compliance with the EU DAC-7 regulations,
we will start collecting additional information from BrickLink Sellers shortly.
To see if you qualify as a Business Seller, please check with Article 8ac of
the EU Council Directive: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021L0514
 
Information that we will be collecting includes the following: 

- Name of business,

- Business registration number, including a supporting document. As different 
rules
apply for each EU member state, refer to your local authority for directions, 

- Tax Identification Number (TIN), including a supporting document:  https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/tin/#/check-tin
- OSS Number and/ or VAT ID for each country of registration: 
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/online-sellers_en
 
You may be aware that we already started requesting this from new Business Sellers
last year. For more details, go to our previous forum post regarding DAC-7: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=332298.
We are now starting the process of collecting this information for all of our
existing Business Sellers.
 
Existing Business Sellers should add this information to their accounts by December
31, 2024. After submission, documents will be reviewed by BrickLink.
 
To ensure that everyone’s requests are handled in a consistent and timely manner,
we will be requesting account updates in waves, by country. We strongly advise
our members to add information to their accounts by the deadline for their corresponding
countries. We will be sending out emails with further details and instructions
for each country in accordance with a schedule. We recommend that you start collecting
the required documentation as soon as possible and await further instructions
for how to add this to your account.
 
Kind Regards,
The BrickLink Team 
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Apr 29, 2024 07:26
 Subject: Re: US sellers: Shipping methods update
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Location:  USA, Florida
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In Administrative, dcarmine writes:
  I changed to the new API last Wednesday and all orders stopped. I don't
think it's working yet? No way for me to tell exactly, I changed mine back
to a my manual chart. Maybe you can test it on your side.

Thanks
Donna

An observation, is that orders (without any shipping method changes) went into
a very slow patch for a several days. Do you have a test account ? Might be worth
putting a few things into a shopping cart and see if they calculate correctly,
and based upon the correct zone.

What is not clear (from the announcement) is ... how is BL arriving at the zone
(and the correct postage). The old API method pre-dated when USPS switched to
zone based PM and FCPS. With the new system, you can do it via a API call to
USPS or by loading your own tables and doing a 2-step table lookup (one lookup
for the ZIP-code to zone calculation and one lookup for the actual postage values).

More recently USPS has applied a need for package dimensions, because larger
packages get surcharges. Presumably the API calls also have to supply package
dimensions, else then will generate incorrect results (or possibly refuse to
generate any result). Any table lookup methodology should also need to be sensitive
to package size (because large packages have surcharges).

If BL is using the API calls, then the package dimensions would be a requirement
(just like they are on Pirate Ship). I hope someone from BL can enlighten us
about how this was implemented.

Nita Rae
 Author: dcarmine View Messages Posted By dcarmine
 Posted: Apr 27, 2024 22:11
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dcarmine (7172)

Location:  USA, Nebraska
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I changed to the new API last Wednesday and all orders stopped. I don't
think it's working yet? No way for me to tell exactly, I changed mine back
to a my manual chart. Maybe you can test it on your side.

Thanks
Donna


In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
  Dear BrickLink sellers in the United States,

We have removed these outdated API-based shipping methods:
• Domestic USPS First-Class Packages (retail),
• Domestic USPS First-Class Packages (commercial).

Starting from today, you will be seeing the following shipping methods in your
Store Settings instead:
• USPS Ground Advantage (commercial),
• USPS Ground Advantage (retail),
• USPS Priority Mail (commercial),
• USPS Priority Mail (retail).

As usual, you can access the new USPS rates for Courier API methods upon selecting
each method in the Rate Chart.

Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Apr 25, 2024 14:07
 Subject: Re: Direct Seller Fee Payments
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Location:  USA, Washington
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Store: ConstrucToys
In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
  Dear BrickLink sellers,

Starting from today, we will be accepting monthly seller fee payments made in
2 ways, instead of 3 as before:
1. Paid with your PayPal account by using the 'Pay with PayPal' button
on your Fees page,
2. Paid with a debit or credit card by using the 'Pay with Card' link
on your Fees page.

Seller fee payments that are sent to our PayPal account at billing@bricklink.com
will not be accepted anymore except for cases when sellers need to pay off their
remaining balance immediately.

So you're still offering "3 as before" payment methods, only on a
case-by-case basis? How about rephrasing your announcement to "Please submit
your fee payments via these 2 methods, the third is no longer desired - Thank
you, Your BrickLink Team"

  
Usually, this happens when
a) Sellers are closing their stores temporarily or permanently,
b) Sellers have an outstanding balance that is below the annual threshold for
collection. Accounts like that are billed on December 5th every year, more about
this here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=38 in the Minimum Bill Requirement
section.

Please reach out to us or comment here if you have any questions.

Just my (hopefully helpful) comment.

  
Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
 Author: CE_Anastasia View Messages Posted By CE_Anastasia
 Posted: Apr 25, 2024 13:08
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CE_Anastasia

Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
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BrickLink Administrator
Dear BrickLink sellers,

Starting from today, we will be accepting monthly seller fee payments made in
2 ways, instead of 3 as before:
1. Paid with your PayPal account by using the 'Pay with PayPal' button
on your Fees page,
2. Paid with a debit or credit card by using the 'Pay with Card' link
on your Fees page.

Seller fee payments that are sent to our PayPal account at billing@bricklink.com
will not be accepted anymore except for cases when sellers need to pay off their
remaining balance immediately.

Usually, this happens when
a) Sellers are closing their stores temporarily or permanently,
b) Sellers have an outstanding balance that is below the annual threshold for
collection. Accounts like that are billed on December 5th every year, more about
this here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=38 in the Minimum Bill Requirement
section.

Please reach out to us or comment here if you have any questions.

Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Apr 24, 2024 17:50
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Location:  USA, Florida
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In Administrative, CE_Anastasia writes:
  Dear BrickLink sellers in the United States,

We have removed these outdated API-based shipping methods:
• Domestic USPS First-Class Packages (retail),
• Domestic USPS First-Class Packages (commercial).

Starting from today, you will be seeing the following shipping methods in your
Store Settings instead:
• USPS Ground Advantage (commercial),
• USPS Ground Advantage (retail),
• USPS Priority Mail (commercial),
• USPS Priority Mail (retail).

As usual, you can access the new USPS rates for Courier API methods upon selecting
each method in the Rate Chart.

Thank you,
The BrickLink Team

This is great news ! Now, will they (the new and improved methods) correctly
identify and select the zone (as determined by the first 3 digits of the seller's
zip and the first 3 digits of the buyer's zip) ? All of the Priority Mail
methods (ignoring flat rate) and all of the Ground Advantage require knowledge
of the zone.

The old API methods did not identify/use the zones.

Nita Rae

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