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 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:43
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In Help, edeevo writes:
  In Help, SezaR writes:
  See photos.

Those kinds of parts always seem to fit in my very special bin!

Life is Good.
~Ed.

 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:19
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In Help, iprice writes:
  In Help, joosthi writes:
  what does a ! in yellow mean in the parts list?

It means that part is not available in the selected colour.

Yes, move the mouse over the ! and there’ll be a tooltip that explains the exact
problem (whether it’s the colour or an LDraw variant that’s not recognized by
BrickLink).
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  
  In another message you feel the irresistible urge to compliment clones on a site
run by LEGO.

They aren't complimenting them. They are implying that COBI parts are not
rubbish that should be thrown away / destroyed and that there are people that
will buy them. Which is true. COBI parts do crop up in used LEGO lots and there
are people that want them. It is incredibly wasteful to destroy items like that
just because they are not LEGO branded. It is far better to pop them in a tub
and sell on as bulk COBI once the tub is full, or bulk mixed clones if they are
with other brands. Obviously they cannot be sold here but that doesn't mean
there is not a market for them, or that they should be destroyed.

Yes, this is exactly it, thanks yorbrick.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:54
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In Help, Shintaku writes:
  In Help, zorbanj writes:
  In Help, Macaronis writes:
  In Help, SezaR writes:
  See photos.


Its a part that helps fill the recycling bin.

COBI is a very high quality clone, and there is a market for it.

How ironic.
In one message you say that I handle my business poorly.

No, I said you handled the transaction you posted about poorly. I didn't
say anything about your business. In fact, your stats are excellent and I would
have no problem buying from you.

Also, I don't see any irony here.

  In another message you feel the irresistible urge to compliment clones on a site
run by LEGO.

Yes, point being that you can do something good with this particular clone instead
of clogging a landfill with it.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:32
 Subject: Re: Is there a way to view a Wanted List Weight?
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In Help, Scirollo writes:
  I'm currently trying to project the weight of a creation I'm going to
build and it has a lot more smaller pieces than anticipated, so I wanted to know
if I can view total weight, as parts count would be inaccurate for this.

I know the part weights are registered on this website, but I want to know if
there's a way to see all this info without having it in someone's cart.

Thanks so much

https://www.brickstore.dev/
Free, open source.
Import your wanted-list, you'll get the weight of 1, some or all items, whatever
you wish.
 Author: tzezula View Messages Posted By tzezula
 Posted: May 3, 2024 09:35
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I can think of (2) options to get the estimated weight.

The easiest would be if you have your MOC modeled in Studio.

Go to: Model Tab Model Info Physical Information Tab

Or, if you only have the pieces in a Wanted List, go to purchase all the pieces
and "Add to Cart".

Then go and "View Cart" for all the sellers that complete the wanted
list and record the estimated weight.

Unfortunately then you need to add all the individual order weights together.

Would be interested to know if there is a more direct solution...
 Author: edeevo View Messages Posted By edeevo
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In Help, SezaR writes:
  See photos.

Those kinds of parts always seem to fit in my very special bin!

Life is Good.
~Ed.
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 09:16
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  I mean, you have always had the chance here to also sell clone and competitors
parts and this is totally alllowaaaah, no it's not any more.

LEGO didn't want us to sell competitors on their platforms (and some whiners
even blamed them and complained about that!) and I'm sure they're super
happy seeing people sponsoring COBI here or other brands! Why not! I mean, they're
totally into supporting competitors.

Before LEGO took over, sellers were not allowed to sell COBI here, nor other
clones like Megabloks nor other perfectly legal CE certified brands. Sellers
were allowed to sell parts such as those from Brick Arms, Brick Warriors, Brick
Forge, etc where they complimented LEGO MOCs, especially where they were minifigure
accessories that LEGO did not produce.

  Sometimes I really question myself over how do some people brains work.

As do many others about your little one.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 09:11
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  I didn't speak about COBI as illegal (try to quote me, I dare you), I said
that MOST bricks you see are illegal. Which is true. Lepin was illegal. Enlighten
is. And I don't go on because, differently from you, I don't want to
advertise such bricks. But I know what it makes in EUROPE a brick illegal, since
you do NOT have a clue of the topic, but I do.


I will quote you ...

It's really a pain to spend a lot of time sorting bricks separing cheap
clones
like COBI
and so on from the actual LEGO and encouraging people to keep them
in order to make some small (to nearly zero) profit is not a good attitude for
this platform. I strongly believe that the money you can gain out of selling
stuff like clones (most of them are also illegal in most countries) is
a small
amount compared to the time you lose in separing the bricks, converted into money.
Yours is shortsighted business.


You specifically name one brand and one brand only as a cheap clone, and then
go on to say that most clones are illegal in most countries. As you have only
specifically mentioned one clone brand, COBI, and then gone on to say that most
clones are illegal the implication is that COBI is illegal in most countries.
If you had not meant that COBI is illegal, then you should not have stated the
name before saying most clones are illegal.

  In Europe all toys must undergo the Communitee Europeenne mark, which is MANDATORY
for all toys. Chinese bricks, for instance, do not have this mark on their toys,
and since it is mandatory, they are totally illegal to be sold in Europe which
have more severe control laws over toys, because, guess what, we do care about
the children's health.

However, still, you lack mere comprehension.

No I don't. But you really seem to lack perspective.

  I'm not speaking about wheter is good or wrong to buy such crap (when legal!),
I'm talking about the stuff that it's totally wrong to use THIS forum
to compliment about third party low quality competitors, even if legal.

And what about third party high quality competitors' parts that can be mistaken
for LEGO, as happened here?

If you read the thread, someone found a COBI piece. Someone else replied to imply
that it should be destroyed. Someone else said don't destroy it, save it
as it is is a quality piece that others might value. Then you throw a wobbly
saying that people should not discuss the quality of clone brands.

  Would you go to a Ferrari spare parts community and spread your poorly concealed
love for Hyundais? Of course you would not.

If someone found a Hyundai part that looked like a Ferrari part in a box that
contained many other Ferrari parts and asked about it on a Ferrari spare parts
forum, then someone else said it is a Hyundai part and someone else said destroy
it, then someone else said don't destroy it as it is a quality part that
has a use and some value to others, I would not be in a fit of rage just because
somebody said a part for another brand has value.

  There are places in where it fits to speak about some topics, and places where
it doesn't at all.

This thread is about a part from a clone brand that has been shown and asked
to be identified, as the owner mistook it for LEGO. Saying that the part still
has value even though it is not LEGO is perfectly appropriate in such a thread.
Discussing that such parts exist also makes sense on a LEGO forum so that other
people do not mistakenly identify bricks that are similar to LEGO as LEGO. It
is no less appropriate to say that a clone part should not be destroyed than
to say that a clone part should be destroyed. Both statements are discussing
a clone part. Yet you only take offense at the one that says don't destroy
it.

The first post in this thread is about a COBI part, as that is what is shown.
Is it appropriate to show such a part even if it is by mistake as the owner thought
it was a LEGO part? If you don't like it, then you can report the thread
saying that it is advertising clone parts that should not be discussed on a forum
owned by LEGO.

  Making high praises of competitor brands on a LEGO ran site is totally out of
context.

They are not making high praises. They simply said "COBI is a very high quality
clone, and there is a market for it." That is a true statement. It is better
to keep and reuse something than it is to destroy because it is not LEGO. There
was no statement such as COBI is better than LEGO, there was no statement that
people should not buy LEGO but buy COBI instead, just a short sentence that a
clone part should not be destroyed because someone might be able to use it.
 Author: Shintaku View Messages Posted By Shintaku
 Posted: May 3, 2024 09:01
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In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, Shintaku writes:
  And since monopolies aren't good (as also unfair competition, but this you
seem to forget) if you want to keep this conversation going on since is a me
vs you issue, I welcome you to pm me and discuss it without bothering the whole
forum with a totally offtopic argument.

You're the one who's arguing! It really is OK to say that Cobi bricks
are high quality (even in a Lego forum), and silly to compare them to bricks
that are illegal in the EU (Cobi is a Polish company).

After all, I want to add (but you can't modify posts here)...

...why should I think it's wrong talking about clone and competitors here?

I mean, you have always had the chance here to also sell clone and competitors
parts and this is totally alllowaaaah, no it's not any more.

LEGO didn't want us to sell competitors on their platforms (and some whiners
even blamed them and complained about that!) and I'm sure they're super
happy seeing people sponsoring COBI here or other brands! Why not! I mean, they're
totally into supporting competitors.

Sometimes I really question myself over how do some people brains work.
 Author: Shintaku View Messages Posted By Shintaku
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In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, Shintaku writes:
  And since monopolies aren't good (as also unfair competition, but this you
seem to forget) if you want to keep this conversation going on since is a me
vs you issue, I welcome you to pm me and discuss it without bothering the whole
forum with a totally offtopic argument.

You're the one who's arguing! It really is OK to say that Cobi bricks
are high quality (even in a Lego forum), and silly to compare them to bricks
that are illegal in the EU (Cobi is a Polish company).

I am very curious.
Can you explain me your mandatory requirement to come and comment every single
post of mine just for the sake of saying I'm wrong on some topics?
I mean, it's nearly stalking you know?

However, if you can't feel how inappropriate is, I can't teach you.
Same as for the other fella, if you need the urge to continue dissing me for
no reason, pm me please.
 Author: Scirollo View Messages Posted By Scirollo
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I'm currently trying to project the weight of a creation I'm going to
build and it has a lot more smaller pieces than anticipated, so I wanted to know
if I can view total weight, as parts count would be inaccurate for this.

I know the part weights are registered on this website, but I want to know if
there's a way to see all this info without having it in someone's cart.

Thanks so much
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 08:49
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In Help, Shintaku writes:
  And since monopolies aren't good (as also unfair competition, but this you
seem to forget) if you want to keep this conversation going on since is a me
vs you issue, I welcome you to pm me and discuss it without bothering the whole
forum with a totally offtopic argument.

You're the one who's arguing! It really is OK to say that Cobi bricks
are high quality (even in a Lego forum), and silly to compare them to bricks
that are illegal in the EU (Cobi is a Polish company).
 Author: Shintaku View Messages Posted By Shintaku
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  
  All of that you wrote is so wrong on so many levels that I doubt even explaining
you everything would remotely change your mind, so there's nothing more we
can say about this.

It is clear you have no clue at all. Just because you don't like something,
it doesn't mean it is against the law.

Can you list every country where COBI branded bricks are illegal? If that is
over 100 then I will concede that COBI is illegal in most countries in the world.

  Just one note: FYI removing some competitors could actually lead in a DECREASE
of the price of LEGO because those competitors deprive the market from potential
buyers. May. Or may not. Your conclusions show once again you're very shortsighted
at business.

Or you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Again. Monopolies rarely
lead to a decrease in prices.

I didn't speak about COBI as illegal (try to quote me, I dare you), I said
that MOST bricks you see are illegal. Which is true. Lepin was illegal. Enlighten
is. And I don't go on because, differently from you, I don't want to
advertise such bricks. But I know what it makes in EUROPE a brick illegal, since
you do NOT have a clue of the topic, but I do.

In Europe all toys must undergo the Communitee Europeenne mark, which is MANDATORY
for all toys. Chinese bricks, for instance, do not have this mark on their toys,
and since it is mandatory, they are totally illegal to be sold in Europe which
have more severe control laws over toys, because, guess what, we do care about
the children's health.

However, still, you lack mere comprehension.

I'm not speaking about wheter is good or wrong to buy such crap (when legal!),
I'm talking about the stuff that it's totally wrong to use THIS forum
to compliment about third party low quality competitors, even if legal.

Would you go to a Ferrari spare parts community and spread your poorly concealed
love for Hyundais? Of course you would not.

There are places in where it fits to speak about some topics, and places where
it doesn't at all.

Making high praises of competitor brands on a LEGO ran site is totally out of
context.

You were wrong saying that the former fellow wasn't complimenting on those
bricks, you are wrong again and I frankly don't understand why you love being
so wrong on so many topics, but you're welcome.

And since monopolies aren't good (as also unfair competition, but this you
seem to forget) if you want to keep this conversation going on since is a me
vs you issue, I welcome you to pm me and discuss it without bothering the whole
forum with a totally offtopic argument.
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  All of that you wrote is so wrong on so many levels that I doubt even explaining
you everything would remotely change your mind, so there's nothing more we
can say about this.

It is clear you have no clue at all. Just because you don't like something,
it doesn't mean it is against the law.

Can you list every country where COBI branded bricks are illegal? If that is
over 100 then I will concede that COBI is illegal in most countries in the world.

  Just one note: FYI removing some competitors could actually lead in a DECREASE
of the price of LEGO because those competitors deprive the market from potential
buyers. May. Or may not. Your conclusions show once again you're very shortsighted
at business.

Or you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Again. Monopolies rarely
lead to a decrease in prices.
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In Help, joosthi writes:
  what does a ! in yellow mean in the parts list?

It means that part is not available in the selected colour.
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  In Help, Shintaku writes:
  In Help, yorbrick writes:
  
  I was obviously referring to the sentence
"COBI is a very high quality clone".

They didn't say "it's a decent" or something like that.
"VERY HIGH quality" is a compliment. Wheter you agree or not, it's
a fact.

It is a high quality clone. That is a fact.

This behaviour of yours is very damaging to the community.

Which community is my behaviour damaging?


  It's really a pain to spend a lot of time sorting bricks separing cheap clones
like COBI and so on from the actual LEGO and encouraging people to keep them
in order to make some small (to nearly zero) profit is not a good attitude for
this platform. I strongly believe that the money you can gain out of selling
stuff like clones (most of them are also illegal in most countries) is a small
amount compared to the time you lose in separing the bricks, converted into money.
Yours is shortsighted business.

So what you are implying here is that no other company aside from LEGO should
be allowed to sell brick building toys. If you buy bulk lots and need to remove
clone parts from them, that is not because of my behaviour. It is because the
people you bought them from had LEGO mixed up with bricks from other brands.
If sorting is an issue for you, then you should check first whether the mixed
lots you buy have clones in.

COBI is not illegal in most countries. That is an absolutely ridiculous statement.
You really do not know what you are talking about.

  I believe also that complimenting or giving value to clone brands on this forum
is totally not the right place to do such. People who spend hours in separating
actual LEGO from knockoffs do this because of people keeping on having your attitude.

Many clone brands are of high quality these days. Some surpass LEGO in that their
colour can be more consistent, in some cases molding marks are less visible,
and prints are better quality. Denying that helps nobody. LEGO has had some terrible
quality issues in the past. If AFOLs deny that there are quality issues, then
LEGO would never have to improve where they fall short.

Just because something is not made by LEGO does not mean it has no value at all.
Destroying items because they are not LEGO is wrong. Banning other companies
from producing brick building toys would be hugely detrimental to LEGO fans,
since LEGO could increase the prices even more than they have already done as
they would have no competition. It also wouldn't be possible anyway as LEGO
does not have the right to stop other companies producing similar items especially
where LEGO no longer has active patents for.

COBI is a genuine company that produces its own designs for sets, and produces
many themes that LEGO say they will never produce. It is a perfectly legal competitor
for brick based toys.

Too Right.. Even brands such as Wilko and Smyths Toys have produced their own
building blocks sets, Just because Lego have been producing sets for years, Does
that mean no-one else can? Every item made has competitors making the same thing.
I'm sure not every single tin opener in the world is made by the same company.
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  In Help, Shintaku writes:
  In Help, yorbrick writes:
  
  I was obviously referring to the sentence
"COBI is a very high quality clone".

They didn't say "it's a decent" or something like that.
"VERY HIGH quality" is a compliment. Wheter you agree or not, it's
a fact.

It is a high quality clone. That is a fact.

This behaviour of yours is very damaging to the community.

Which community is my behaviour damaging?


  It's really a pain to spend a lot of time sorting bricks separing cheap clones
like COBI and so on from the actual LEGO and encouraging people to keep them
in order to make some small (to nearly zero) profit is not a good attitude for
this platform. I strongly believe that the money you can gain out of selling
stuff like clones (most of them are also illegal in most countries) is a small
amount compared to the time you lose in separing the bricks, converted into money.
Yours is shortsighted business.

So what you are implying here is that no other company aside from LEGO should
be allowed to sell brick building toys. If you buy bulk lots and need to remove
clone parts from them, that is not because of my behaviour. It is because the
people you bought them from had LEGO mixed up with bricks from other brands.
If sorting is an issue for you, then you should check first whether the mixed
lots you buy have clones in.

COBI is not illegal in most countries. That is an absolutely ridiculous statement.
You really do not know what you are talking about.

  I believe also that complimenting or giving value to clone brands on this forum
is totally not the right place to do such. People who spend hours in separating
actual LEGO from knockoffs do this because of people keeping on having your attitude.

Many clone brands are of high quality these days. Some surpass LEGO in that their
colour can be more consistent, in some cases molding marks are less visible,
and prints are better quality. Denying that helps nobody. LEGO has had some terrible
quality issues in the past. If AFOLs deny that there are quality issues, then
LEGO would never have to improve where they fall short.

Just because something is not made by LEGO does not mean it has no value at all.
Destroying items because they are not LEGO is wrong. Banning other companies
from producing brick building toys would be hugely detrimental to LEGO fans,
since LEGO could increase the prices even more than they have already done as
they would have no competition. It also wouldn't be possible anyway as LEGO
does not have the right to stop other companies producing similar items especially
where LEGO no longer has active patents for.

COBI is a genuine company that produces its own designs for sets, and produces
many themes that LEGO say they will never produce. It is a perfectly legal competitor
for brick based toys.


All of that you wrote is so wrong on so many levels that I doubt even explaining
you everything would remotely change your mind, so there's nothing more we
can say about this.

After all, everything started from your wrong assumption that the former wasn't
complimenting, so from wrong assumptions it is very unlikely that true conclusion
can come out.

Just one note: FYI removing some competitors could actually lead in a DECREASE
of the price of LEGO because those competitors deprive the market from potential
buyers. May. Or may not. Your conclusions show once again you're very shortsighted
at business.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Help, Shintaku writes:
  In Help, yorbrick writes:
  
  I was obviously referring to the sentence
"COBI is a very high quality clone".

They didn't say "it's a decent" or something like that.
"VERY HIGH quality" is a compliment. Wheter you agree or not, it's
a fact.

It is a high quality clone. That is a fact.

This behaviour of yours is very damaging to the community.

Which community is my behaviour damaging?


  It's really a pain to spend a lot of time sorting bricks separing cheap clones
like COBI and so on from the actual LEGO and encouraging people to keep them
in order to make some small (to nearly zero) profit is not a good attitude for
this platform. I strongly believe that the money you can gain out of selling
stuff like clones (most of them are also illegal in most countries) is a small
amount compared to the time you lose in separing the bricks, converted into money.
Yours is shortsighted business.

So what you are implying here is that no other company aside from LEGO should
be allowed to sell brick building toys. If you buy bulk lots and need to remove
clone parts from them, that is not because of my behaviour. It is because the
people you bought them from had LEGO mixed up with bricks from other brands.
If sorting is an issue for you, then you should check first whether the mixed
lots you buy have clones in.

COBI is not illegal in most countries. That is an absolutely ridiculous statement.
You really do not know what you are talking about.

  I believe also that complimenting or giving value to clone brands on this forum
is totally not the right place to do such. People who spend hours in separating
actual LEGO from knockoffs do this because of people keeping on having your attitude.

Many clone brands are of high quality these days. Some surpass LEGO in that their
colour can be more consistent, in some cases molding marks are less visible,
and prints are better quality. Denying that helps nobody. LEGO has had some terrible
quality issues in the past. If AFOLs deny that there are quality issues, then
LEGO would never have to improve where they fall short.

Just because something is not made by LEGO does not mean it has no value at all.
Destroying items because they are not LEGO is wrong. Banning other companies
from producing brick building toys would be hugely detrimental to LEGO fans,
since LEGO could increase the prices even more than they have already done as
they would have no competition. It also wouldn't be possible anyway as LEGO
does not have the right to stop other companies producing similar items especially
where LEGO no longer has active patents for.

COBI is a genuine company that produces its own designs for sets, and produces
many themes that LEGO say they will never produce. It is a perfectly legal competitor
for brick based toys.
 Author: joosthi View Messages Posted By joosthi
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