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| | | Author: | popsicle  | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 08:47 | | Subject: | Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 297 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Fundamentally instruments to insert links, it seems. Often the most effective
and simplest tack is to remove motivation. Consider...
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1465461
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| | | | | Author: | Brickman4you | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 09:01 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
Very well said... Only took them 11MIN to respond to your post.
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| | | | | Author: | The_Boyz_Bricks | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 09:06 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
What’s funny is that the very next message on the forum was spam.
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| | | | | Author: | Nicolasamico37 | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 09:48 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
Nicolas
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 10:27 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
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You'd don't think that was intentional misdirection, Nicolas?
It's the first I've seen without links, anyway
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nicolasamico37 | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
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You'd don't think that was intentional misdirection, Nicolas?
It's the first I've seen without links, anyway
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You're right, the first without link ! Are bots enough smart ? I don't
think so... It won't last !
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
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You'd don't think that was intentional misdirection, Nicolas?
It's the first I've seen without links, anyway
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You're right, the first without link ! Are bots enough smart ?
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You're assuming bots in this seemingly fortuitous and timely instance
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 12:19 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
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You'd don't think that was intentional misdirection, Nicolas?
It's the first I've seen without links, anyway
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You're right, the first without link ! Are bots enough smart ? I don't
think so... It won't last !
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Yes, they're progressing. We've seen improvements in NubsGPT!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
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You'd don't think that was intentional misdirection, Nicolas?
It's the first I've seen without links, anyway
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You're right, the first without link ! Are bots enough smart ? I don't
think so... It won't last !
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Yes, they're progressing. We've seen improvements in NubsGPT!
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Mwhahahaha 
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 10:32 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
Nicolas
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It was auto hidden by the website because the spammer put it in HTML tags.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 10:36 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Stellar writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I am on the forum all day and report at least 4 or 5 spam members per day.
I would be very appreciated. But the last spam doesn't have any link in its
post...
Nicolas
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It was auto hidden by the website because the spammer put it in HTML tags.
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Thanks. Good to learn
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| | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 09:57 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
How about any new member wishing to post on the forums has to wash an existing
members car before they can post to prove their sincerity?
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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Same!
Gummies, Pizzas, Mustard, various GPTusers, mods with far too much time and knowledge
(and no Selling Feedback, imagine!), silly contests, Inventory Requests - there
are many different forms of SPAM - depending the POV maybe
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Dhobeck | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 13:27 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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Same!
Gummies, Pizzas, Mustard, various GPTusers, mods with far too much time and knowledge
(and no Selling Feedback, imagine!), silly contests, Inventory Requests - there
are many different forms of SPAM - depending the POV maybe
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Many different types of spam indeed
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Dhobeck writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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Same!
Gummies, Pizzas, Mustard, various GPTusers, mods with far too much time and knowledge
(and no Selling Feedback, imagine!), silly contests, Inventory Requests - there
are many different forms of SPAM - depending the POV maybe
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Many different types of spam indeed
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https://youtu.be/cFrtpT1mKy8
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Jkbvmartinez04 | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | No mustard-flavored Spam? I'm very surprised... |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 14:10 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Jkbvmartinez04 writes:
| | No mustard-flavored Spam? I'm very surprised...
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Have you tried it? The mustard-flavored one isn't spam.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 14:13 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, Jkbvmartinez04 writes:
| | No mustard-flavored Spam? I'm very surprised...
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Have you tried it? The mustard-flavored one isn't spam.
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How about pizza with ham?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | sasquatch_eater | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 15:25 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, Jkbvmartinez04 writes:
| | No mustard-flavored Spam? I'm very surprised...
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Have you tried it? The mustard-flavored one isn't spam.
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How about pizza with ham?
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How about this?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | sasquatch_eater | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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Same!
Gummies, Pizzas, Mustard, various GPTusers, mods with far too much time and knowledge
(and no Selling Feedback, imagine!), silly contests, Inventory Requests - there
are many different forms of SPAM - depending the POV maybe
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 14:07 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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Same!
Gummies, Pizzas, Mustard, various GPTusers, mods with far too much time and knowledge
(and no Selling Feedback, imagine!), silly contests, Inventory Requests - there
are many different forms of SPAM - depending the POV maybe
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Says the one who spammed the forum with over 6,500 messages
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 14:25 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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Same!
Gummies, Pizzas, Mustard, various GPTusers, mods with far too much time and knowledge
(and no Selling Feedback, imagine!), silly contests, Inventory Requests - there
are many different forms of SPAM - depending the POV maybe
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Says the one who spammed the forum with over 6,500 messages
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Profession: spreader.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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Same!
Gummies, Pizzas, Mustard, various GPTusers, mods with far too much time and knowledge
(and no Selling Feedback, imagine!), silly contests, Inventory Requests - there
are many different forms of SPAM - depending the POV maybe
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Says the one who spammed the forum with over 6,500 messages
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Profession: spreader.
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Confession: spammer.
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 14:10 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
I just ignore it and it doesn't hurt me at all.
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I understand. From the posted suggestion "Personally don't find the
spam posts all that bothersome. Many do though, and if there's an easy fix
to tidy things up a bit..."
But whether you, I or some others are overly bothered, is not the point of the
suggestion. Betterment of the site, if for no other reason
Anyway, it's just a suggestion of how something that does bother others,
could be handled. A few analogies leap to mind, things that should not be allowed
as being disruptive or subversive to the accustomed functioning of a given community.
In other words, things which though don't particularly bother you or I, might
be addressed nonetheless
But like I said, just a suggestion
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| | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 14:48 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I don't care about the spam itself, I'm more-so bothered by the fact
that the Admins in charge allow it in the first place; it may be an insignificant
annoyance, but for me, it shows they don't care. Action speaks louder than
words, and they're full of empty promises.
They can say they care, they can give as much lip-service as they'd like,
but it's been going on for years now and they still haven't come up with
a simple solution to forum spam. I've said it in the past, but it doesn't
really make me feel confident in the site's security when they can't
even deal with simple spam being posted daily for the past 3 or so years.
"It's the spaghetti code though! it's impossible to tackle!!!!"
Is that why they've done umpteen complex & pointless changes that no one
asked for while ignoring real issues? Implementing a MOC pop-up shop, a designer
program, a 2nd forum for Studio, and merging a bunch of parts for no reason?
It's extremely frustrating to watch, especially when some changes have been
protested for weeks before they implemented them. But "muh spaghetti code"
prevents them from implementing a requirement or filter for forum posts. Makes
sense.
I personally think the whole Bricklink team needs a restructuring or needs to
be replaced entirely. Sorry to say, but this seems to have been an issue for
way longer than I've even been on the website judging by other posts that
have been brought up over the years.
They hired more helpdesk staff back around Fall 2022, then on top of that they
had Lego step in and provide customer service reps this year, and that STILL
hasn't helped the help desk backlog, that has been "months behind"
for months now with no real info as to how bad it is, we can only go off of what
regular forum members parrot in their posts.
On top of that, the community engagement people hardly communicate with us...
the only admin that actually seems to acknowledge posts is Russell, but even
then a lot gets ignored and looked over (I know he can't reply to everything
and read everything, but there are a lot of popular forum posts that have valid
concerns that get ignored)
I love Bricklink, just hate to see it mishandled and stomped on like it has been
for the past while now.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 16:00 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
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"It's the spaghetti code though! it's impossible to tackle!!!!"
Is that why they've done umpteen complex & pointless changes that no one
asked for while ignoring real issues? Implementing a MOC pop-up shop, a designer
program, a 2nd forum for Studio, and merging a bunch of parts for no reason?
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To nitpick (who said “as always”?!) on this specific part of your post, none
of these touches the old spaghetti code:
— the MOC Pop-up Shop is (was/will be again?) on the v2/v3 part of the website,
— the Studio forum is totally separate code but for the shared authentication
which is on the v2/v3 side,
— ditto BDP, which is also, IIUC, how BL is making money and why TLG bought BL,
— and the merges don’t touch the code at all, which is why it’s painfully done
manually over several months rather than with a simple scripted database update
in one fell.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 16:09 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
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"It's the spaghetti code though! it's impossible to tackle!!!!"
Is that why they've done umpteen complex & pointless changes that no one
asked for while ignoring real issues? Implementing a MOC pop-up shop, a designer
program, a 2nd forum for Studio, and merging a bunch of parts for no reason?
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To nitpick
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As always!
| | none of these touches the old spaghetti code:
— the MOC Pop-up Shop is (was/will be again?) on the v2/v3 part of the website,
— the Studio forum is totally separate code but for the shared authentication
which is on the v2/v3 side,
— ditto BDP, which is also, IIUC, how BL is making money and why TLG bought BL,
— and the merges don’t touch the code at all, which is why it’s painfully done
manually over several months rather than with a simple scripted database update
in one fell.
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Agreed with this - and I love the recent Catalog merges.
But UTLF point may be that time, energy and money spent on those weren't
used to fix or upgrade our day to day use of the current BrickLink.
For a few years we only see as upgrades: more taxes, documents and procedures
to follow.
I don't blame BrickLink, it's everywhere - the legalized income pressure
gets higher and higher on small people, with nothing/few in compensation.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
none of these touches the old spaghetti code:
— the MOC Pop-up Shop is (was/will be again?) on the v2/v3 part of the website,
— the Studio forum is totally separate code but for the shared authentication
which is on the v2/v3 side,
— ditto BDP, which is also, IIUC, how BL is making money and why TLG bought BL,
— and the merges don’t touch the code at all, which is why it’s painfully done
manually over several months rather than with a simple scripted database update
in one fell.
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Agreed with this - and I love the recent Catalog merges.
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| | But UTLF point may be that time, energy and money spent on those weren't
used to fix or upgrade our day to day use of the current BrickLink.
For a few years we only see as upgrades: more taxes, documents and procedures
to follow.
I don't blame BrickLink, it's everywhere - the legalized income pressure
gets higher and higher on small people, with nothing/few in compensation.
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Finally some thing we all can agree on.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | May 9, 2024 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: Continued Forum Spam | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | But UTLF point may be that time, energy and money spent on those weren't
used to fix or upgrade our day to day use of the current BrickLink.
For a few years we only see as upgrades: more taxes, documents and procedures
to follow.
I don't blame BrickLink, it's everywhere - the legalized income pressure
gets higher and higher on small people, with nothing/few in compensation.
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at: pouring resources into useless changes
that nobody asked for and acting like they're doing work when the important
stuff gets swept under the rug
But hey, make sure you pay your seller fees or else we'll shut your store
down! We need to fund more useless projects instead of tackling things people
have been asking for for years now!
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